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Date: 09/08/93 6:35p
Subj: games Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I don't think I have the original disks. I'd love to get passed that copy
protection. I'll keep trying! Did you know that this BBS is shutting down?!
BUMMER! I don't know when but I know it will shut down. I hope I can keep in
touch with you. I have a BBS. I'm in Sheldon, VT and the number is 933-2417. If
this board is down just call mine if you can I hope it's not long distance!
Great to hear from you again. L8R
--Rachel
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From: JEFF WEISS Number: 2972
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 8:51a
Subj: ** Make your own CD-ROM! ** Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 2973
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/09/93 6:34p
Subj: CD caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Doug,
I did purchase my copy of Busty Babes from your company. Do you have some
sort of catalog? I thought they would send me one with the disk. (I'll
enclose my address in my tagline). I'm wondering you have some good prices
on CD-caddies? Quote me your price with shipping and handling. Thanks..
Steve
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: MIKE YOUNG Number: 2974
To: JEFF CUTLER Date: 09/10/93 6:46p
Subj: Re: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC> Hello William!
JC> 02 Sep 93 23:13, William Schneider, Jr. wrote to All:
JC> WSJ> But it didn't work. I even tried to do it without the
JC> '+', but it still WSJ> won't go. I know, a lot of people will
JC> tell me to use another cache WSJ> program, but I bought DOS 6
JC> for all the new features, and can't stand any WSJ> of them, so
JC> I gotta get my money back out of it somehow! By the way, I:
JC> WSJ> is the drive letter for my CD-ROM. Thanks in advance!
JC> Chow!
JC> I can't be sure but i know that Some CD Rom Device Drivers
JC> tell DOS to treat the CD-Rom Drive as a Network Drive.
JC> SMARTDRV probably won't let you use it on a Network drive (It
JC> isn't really but DOS thinks so.)
While dos 6 has alot of nice new features disk caching via
smartdrv.exe is not one of them. However I have just found out
that microsoft has released and updated version of smartdrv.exe
the new version is 4.2 and is dos 6 compatible only. And as far
as I know can only be found on Internet. I have d/led it but
had a crc check sum error when I unzipped it and was unable to
use it. If you get a good working copy please let me know. I
would love to have it.
For anyone else interested this file can be found on
Internet at the following location.
it is found on wuarchives in the msdos/microsoft directory the
full path is as follows.
/systems/ibmpc/msdos/microsoft/pd0805.zip
The file should include:
readme.txt 2958 jun 18
smartdrv.exe 42585 jun 9
smartdrv.txt 909 jun 16
Later mike young
JC> Jeff
JC> --- GoldED 2.41
JC> * Origin: The Main Bridge - Zyx 19200 - Now THAT's Fast
JC> (1:247/312)
Mike Young
... Silver Xpress!...... Don't leave home without it!
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From: FORREST ALDRICH Number: 2975
To: GORDON GREEN Date: 09/10/93 1:48p
Subj: SDN, etc. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
If ever I were to decide to run a BBS, how would I access the files from
SDN/UTILNET, etc., for my own (other than having to directly download
them all from you (not at 2400 baud for sure! :)
Forrest
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2976
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/11/93 3:06a
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> In a message to Lee Noga <09-06-93 09:57> Ismail Arslangiray
>> wrote:
IA>>> Seems like both of your disk have legal problems and there is an
IA>>> apperent piss contest. I am sorry but you guys need to handle your
IA>>> own problems. I was only helping to another echo participant.
>> It's not about 'Piss' dear friend, its about a creditability
>> issue with you marketing a selling point of a disc that is not
>> true--Informing sysops that the disc is BBS ready only makes
>> you look silly when they return it to you when they realize
>> that the disc is prohibited on the BBS--So all I was trying to
>> do is save you some embarrassment, realizing that you might
>> not have known-- All I was doing was helping a distributor
>> correct some misleading information--Next time I will consider
>> the source, and perhaps piss in your cornflakes too :) You
>> annoy me ! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Normally I never get involved, but this I gota see !!!!!
What's this echo coming too....grin -:)
Boris Osadciw
... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2977
To: ALL Date: 09/11/93 3:06a
Subj: ALL NEW CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
))))))))))))) SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 IS NOW SHIPPING ((((((((((((
100% 1993 shareware disc - 600+ MEGABYTES ( 4,000 + files )
of only the best shareware from 1993 - Six different file
formats for use with every major BBS - All lists have been
searched, cleaned, and recompiled for quality !
This is the ULTIMATE in BBS CDs!
Price - $35.00
ORDERS US/CANADA 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... What Bug! I left behind the roaches in New York!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 2978
To: ALL Date: 09/11/93 3:06a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $289.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
Texel Int 265ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 265ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $439.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $569.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $10.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY 800-243-0517 - TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 - FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2979
To: WAYNE MAJORS Date: 09/08/93 12:49p
Subj: ELIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-05-1993, WAYNE MAJORS wrote...
WM> For those concerned about the removal of this echo from the
WM> ELIST.. I took care of it..
WM>
WM> The following if from a message I received to day from the ELIST
WM> node...
WM>
WM> *************************
WM> Area Tag CDROM addition successful!
WM> This entry will be published in The International EchoList edition
WM> 310 scheduled for release 1-Oct-93.
WM> Fear not.... we are alive and on the backbone.. :-)
WM>
WM> L8r.... - Wayne -
Well done son...
Marc.
Hey, Ponca city, I KNOW WHERE THAT IS!
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From: MARC CIRCOSTA Number: 2980
To: SAM JONES Date: 09/08/93 12:58p
Subj: Re: Photo CD Software Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-04-1993, KEN UHRICK wrote...
KU> SJ> I have a Panasonic 562-b CD-ROM drive and I would like to know
KU> SJ> what software is available in order to let me view Kodak Photo CD's.
KU> SJ> Is there a shareware prgram avaiable? I have seen one prgram (by
KU> SJ> Kodak) but it was a DOS program and my video card (SSPro VL) was not
KU> SJ> supported so I guess that I wold not be able to get the 16 mill. color
KU> SJ> mode so a Windows version would be nice, is there a Windows version,
KU> SJ> and how much is it?
I *think* that the new version of Coreldraw (there up to ver 4 now)
has a feature to read the files off a KODAK PHOTO CD. But, I ain't seen
one in action, so don't really know how the whole thing works....
interesting though.
Marc.
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From: ARISTEDES MANIATIS Number: 2981
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 2:20a
Subj: CD ROM recorder Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for someone with a CD ROM recorder to write about 300 Mb to a CD.
I know that the recorders are available for under $10,000. I am able to supply
the files on 88Mb Syquest cartridges and I would be willing to pay a reasonably
amount to have the CD made.
I would appreciate any information whatsoever - please forward it to me via
netmail as well as in this echo.
Thank you,
Ari
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From: CHRIS PATTEN Number: 2982
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/10/93 11:52a
Subj: ECHO CHANGES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
* In a message originally to Bob Jackson, Bob Hall said:
CC>BJ>I think your ideas for both this and the "for sale" echo are right
CC>BJ>on target, Bob. I support you and Tim agreeing to make this switch on
CC>BJ>Oct. 1.
CC>Thanks for your support.
CC>BOB
Well as another Aussie and friend of Tony Stott the supplier of Aussie chocs
to the US I would hate to see the small 10 lines advrts disappear as they are
informative to us downunder deprived(maybe depraved) CD users.
Chris
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From: CHRIS PATTEN Number: 2983
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/10/93 11:44a
Subj: Bbs Cds Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CP>Try a new shareware program called CD ACCESS by Corry MacFarlane.
Is CD ACCESS the magic name? I really need a program like this and
want to file request it from Sydney Australia.
Thanks in adavance for a reply.
Chris
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2984
To: MICHAEL COOPER Date: 09/10/93 7:58p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mike!
On 09-08-93 Michael Cooper wrote to All...
MC> Anyone know where I can get a Panasonic CR-562-B CD-ROM Drive
MC> (internal) with AT buss card. I do NOT need a sound card, I
MC> already have one. Also would be interested in a bundle with
MC> some CD's. Sydney area.
Ring Nick Agosta at Osborne Computers, Sydney... Ask for a CD200 kit...
that's Osborne's version of the CR562B/8bit paddle card/cables/CD-ROM
driver.... If you have an SB Pro or better, the CR562B will connect
directly to the CR562B.... specify /sbp:220 on the device=cdmke.sys
line in CONFIG.SYS and you're away.....
I don't know of anyone doing a CD-ROMdrive/paddle card/CD-ROM bundle,
most of this stuff is done as an MM U/G kit... complete with sound card!
Cheers!
o
/U\
... OFFLINE 1.52
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2985
To: DAVID WINGER Date: 09/10/93 8:01p
Subj: Panasonic 562B + SB mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David!
On 09-08-93 David Winger wrote to Alan Whitemore...
DW> On 09-05-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to All...
DW>
DW> AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a
DW> AW> Mono 8 bit SB card?
DW>
DW> I have the same problem.
DW> Let me know if you find a solution.
The only solution possible is to sell the 8-bit SB 1.5/2.0 card and buy
an SB Pro/16/16 ASP.....
Why???
Because the SB 1.5/2.0 do not have an on-board mixer to allow line-in to
be transferred to the speakers.... Line-in on the SB 1.5/2.0 is for
recording purposes only!
Please don't shoot! I'm only the messenger! <g>
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 2986
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 09/10/93 8:10p
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Eric!
On 09-07-93 Eric Eskam wrote to All...
EE> I am using the above drive with the 8 bit card, but I don't have
EE> drivers.
Should have come with the drive/paddle card, otherwise they're just
expensive paperweights!
EE> Could someone please hint at which drivers I would need (filename if
EE> possible) and where to get them (BBS, Panasonic, etc.).
I'd suggest you ring your local Panasonic distributor.... the file you
desperately need is CDMKE.SYS (sometimes CDMKEnnn.SYS, where nnn is
numerals representing the version # of the driver!).... Latest release
is Version 4.11 I believe.....
The other possibility is the Creative Labs driver, SBCD.SYS.... But I'm
not sure (haven't tried!) whether it will see the 8 bit paddle card...
EE> The tech support person for this
EE> particular CD ROM drive is real difficult to get ahold of -
EE> I have been playing telephone tag with him for several days, so
EE> if I could find away around him I would be very happy!
Tag him with a baseball bat! It will hurt more than the telephone....
BTW, you don't say whether you have a sound card.... If you're looking,
I'd suggest the SB 16 ASP.... It will allow you to connect your CD-ROM
drive directly to the sound card and provide you with an alternate
source for your needed device driver!
Cheers & Beers!
o
/U\
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From: POE LIM Number: 2987
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/11/93 12:52a
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Sep 05 14:26 in a msg to Brice Fleckenstein, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> Tell everyone to look for the Panasonic CR503 as the SCSI version of
> the CR562B/CR563.....
>
> But they are hard to find! (I haven't been able to source one!)
According to the Aust distributor, they will not be released 'till close to
Christmas (in Aust anyway).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 2988
To: ROBERT PROHL Date: 09/09/93 9:12a
Subj: MSCDEX Woes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
G'day Robert, In a message on <Sep 06>, you said :
RP> However, I keep getting "illegal parameter" or some such
RP> nonsense when autoexec encounters that line.. what the hey?
RP> Can it be done?
Of course it can be done.
But I and others cant answer your question properly without knowing what you
included on the line that says illegal parameter.
Post a copy of your autoexec.bat and you will have a better chance of getting
your problem solved. When asking these kind questions it pays to include as
much information as possible so your problem can be evaluated and solved
easily.
Your question is a bit like saying.... my computer is not working please tell
me what is wrong with it.
Laurie
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 2989
To: MICHAEL COOPER Date: 09/10/93 8:03a
Subj: Re: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> and Michael Cooper was heard mumbling to All <=-
Hi Michael,
MC> For Australian Readers only.
MC> Anyone know where I can get a Panasonic CR-562-B CD-ROM Drive
MC> (internal) with AT buss card. I do NOT need a sound card, I already
MC> have one. Also would be interested in a bundle with some CD's.
MC> Sydney area.
The Games Wizards Parramatta Rd Granville sells the COMPRO Classic Mutlimedia
Kit which includes an AT BUS card, Panasonic/Matsushita CR-562-B with
cables and comes with SQ4 and KQ5. The RRP is $599 but you should be able
to get it much cheaper than this.
Cya,
Sean.
... eject...eject...eject...flameout ! ...
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From: LOONG CHUNG Number: 2990
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/05/93 11:28a
Subj: Re: Panasonic CDR-63 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Rowan Evans to Loong Chung <=-
RE> Hi Loong!
RE>
RE> Interesting point, the CR562B/CR563 returns better throughput figuers
RE> when attached to an SB CD-ROM connector than when attached to the
RE> supplied 8-bit paddle card. It could be due to different electronics,
RE> etc on the SB, but could also be due to the 16-bit connector on the
RE> SB Pro/16/16 ASP....
RE> Cheers!
Hi Rowan
Which of the Creative Labs Combo pack comes with the CR563? and how many CD's
and which SoundBlaster does it come with? How much?
Thanks
Loong
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From: VICTOR ZDANOWICZ Number: 2991
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 6:25p
Subj: Checking CD activity Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know of a way to check if the CD-ROM is playing an Audio CD?... I
want to be able to stop the CD-rom from re-initialzing after a warm boot, if
there is already an Audio CD playing...
Thanks Vz...
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From: KEN KIRKLEY Number: 2992
To: COLIN BELL Date: 09/09/93 8:36a
Subj: Re: Drive speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>> I am considering putting a scsi cd rom drive online on my BBS.
BO>>> I don't 4 really want to spend too much on the drive but I
BO>>> have to be sure that it will be able to keep up with people
BO>>> downloading. My modem is 14400 BPS & the serial port is locked
Hi Colin,
I am no expert on CDROM's, but my understanding is that the speed (500ms
or whatever) is the access time for findng a given file. In reality this
does not affect the download time. I have a 800ms Tandy CDR-1000 and it
works great on my BBS. All of file listings are on my hard drive,
therefore when someone searches for files they are not accessing the
ROM. Once they select a file to transfer, then the ROM is accessed and
copied to the hard drive for downloading. This is where the Transfer
Rate affects the process. Mine is 150 kb/sec (pretty standard, though
some of the newer ones are faster). Only takes a bit for the transfer to
the hard drive unless it is an unusually large file or several tagged
files. Have never had any complints about the speed either way. I
average about 300 downloads per month from the one ROM. Hope this info
helps with your decision.
Ken
btw, I am new to this conference and look forward to "lurking" around.
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From: ED TURNOCK Number: 2993
To: ED YEE Date: 09/10/93 7:05p
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible system"? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Would you believe that the people at "Power Up" coulden't come up with an
answer. You seem to know so if you could give me a little more detail, enough
to determine if I am complient, I would appreciate it.
For information, I have a 486DX/33 with a 340M hard disk, about 500M with
STACKER. My CDROM drive is one of DAKs $199 specials which have a unique
controller, they are not SCSI. I have a standard VGA display, and a couple of
diskettes.
Any Help appreciated.
Ed
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From: MARC STANTON Number: 2994
To: TRAVIS MOGNET Date: 09/11/93 2:20a
Subj: RE: NightOwl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So, Who Where When and all that sorta stuff might I find NightOwl 9 ?
Travis Mognet
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From: J HAYES Number: 2995
To: TERRY MARRS Date: 09/11/93 2:40a
Subj: THIS BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MY FIRST LOG-ON HERE. BEEN NICE. I SEEM TO HAVE GOT LOST IN THE MESSAGES AND
HAVE RUN OUT OF TIME. COULDN'T GO WITHOUT SAYING "THANKS."
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 2996
To: FRANCOIS DESROSIERS Date: 09/11/93 8:35a
Subj: Sound card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-09-93 FRANCOIS DESROSIERS wrote to ALL...
FD> What is the advantage to connect a CD-ROM with a sound card or the
FD> disavantages to not connect it!
FD> Will I loose something if my CD-ROM is not connected to the sound
FD> card.
Francois, the advantage of connecting a CDROM to the sound card is you
only use one slot in your computer instead of two. The main thing to be
concerned with is the type of controller the sound card has on it for
the CDROM. The Pro Audio Spectrum (PAS) series has an SCSI controller on
it and you can use any SCSI CDROM drive with the proper drivers. The
Sound Blaster series (SB***) has there own type of controller and this
limits the selection of drives you can use with their cards. As for other
sound cards make sure to check out the type of controller the sound card
you decide on has. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Knowing Murphy's law won't help either."
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From: STEVE RUDOLPH Number: 2997
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/10/93 7:03a
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
How's about a catalog:
1-8-48-402 Horinouchi
Suginami-ku, Tokyo
166 Japan
In particular I am looking for a multimedia package, music composition
software (which allows for composition-- I have no midi-interface or
keyboard), a good sound file disk, and True Type font package.
Any suggestions
* OLX 2.1 TD * I'm in shape ... round's a shape isn't it?
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 2998
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 09/09/93 1:53p
Subj: Shareware Explorer - 4 pa Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> S H A R E W A R E E X P L O R E R - 4 V O L U M E S E T
> The hottest selling CD-ROM at this years ONE BBSCON!
> John Dvorak, of PC magazine picked one up and said:
> "Wow, I've never seen a four pack CD-ROM like this
> before... This is nice!"
I wont buy it if it is not Jerry Pournelle :-)
bye
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From: MAHMUT KURSUN Number: 2999
To: ALL Date: 09/10/93 12:07a
Subj: whats this? Refer: NONE
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I cant believe it. Friend of mine visit the ONEBBSCON in Colorado a
week ago and all he could bring me was a box of candy? From Lee Noga?!
He told me about real awesome Sysopdeal prices. Spend every penny on
CDROMs and TBBS add-ons.
bye
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 3000
To: ALL Date: 09/11/93 2:35p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DFW Discount Electronics 09/11/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List BBS : 214-259-4188
* = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS
CD-ROM Drive
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mitsumi Int. CD-ROM 350ms Kit w/adapter (non-SCSI) 187.00
Shareware
~~~~~~~~~
* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00
and many other formats. For most desktop publishing
programs.
* DR. GAMES (6/93, BBS Ready, by Aces Research, Inc.): $25.00
Adventure, Arcade, Card Games, Chess, Flights, Puzzles,
Simulators, Sports, Strategy, Tetris, Wars, Windows
Games, and much more.
* GAMES 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer Broker): $22.00
Over 6,000 files including Apogee games, unprotects,
tips, Tetris clones, lotto, casino, sports, VGA arcade,
Flight Simulators.
MONSTER MEDIA 1993 (5/93, BBS Ready): 420MB, no duplicate $32.00
files, FILES.BBS format included and conversion utility
provided for most popular BBS systems.
* NIGHT OWL 9 (6/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher): $27.00
Great disc!
PC SIG 12 (3/93, by PC SIG): Latest in the PC SIG series. $29.00
PC-SIG WORLD of WINDOWS (8/93, BBS Ready, by PC SIG) $22.00
PHOENIX 4.0 (8/93, BBS Ready) $21.00
* SCI-FI FANTASY (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer $25.00
Broker): VGA pics including Star Trek, Star Wars,
Fantasy, D&D, Creatures, Conan & much more.
* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready, by Power User $28.00
Software): 650MB, VGA Arcade Games, Home & Hobby,
Graphics, Clip Art, Sound Files, Finance, OS/2, Windows,
Fonts & much more.
SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD COLLECTION (9/93, BBS Ready, by $29.00
American Databankers): Over 6,000 files, over 590MB.
File areas include: top software hits of 1993, Windows
apps and games, DOS games, family & education, business,
utils, GIFs, clip art, programming &
* SHAREWARE April 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago $23.00
Computer Broker): 5,000 files, games, sounds, Window,
utils, education, finance.
SHAREWARE OVERLOAD: Over 6,100 files, Games, MS Windows, $15.00
Business, Clip Art, Education & much more.
* WINDOWS 1993 (1/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer $24.00
Broker): 7,000 files, Corel Draw utils, BMP, CRD,
wallpaper, games, icons, fonts, screen savers, clip art,
etc.
Clip Art
~~~~~~~~
GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for $19.00
MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.
VGA SPECTRUM II: Over 680MB, over 800 MOD files, over $24.00
1,100 VOC files, animation, SoundBlaster, Top 20 games.
Game
~~~~
INDIANA JONES & THE FATE OF ATLANTIS: LucasArts' latest $46.00
adventure with The Man with the Hat. Only Indy can stop
the Nazi agents from unleashing the deadly secret that
sank Atlantis. Full voice and enhanced digital sound
effects.
KINGS QUEST V $19.00
LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure, $29.00
You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the
Great Guilds.
Reference
~~~~~~~~~
FAMILY DOCTOR: Over 1,500 of frequently asked medical $26.00
questions, approx. 300 color medical illustrations, names
& addresses of support groups/education resources,
complete data on over 1,600 prescription drugs.
(Continued next message...)
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From: MARCIAL MORENO Number: 3001
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/16/93 8:00a
Subj: Re: cd-rom wholesalers. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> MM> Mega-ROM SoftWare ^^^^^^^^
-> FYI: This is VERY close to a copyrighted name used by a national mail
-> order company - Profit Press in Tucson, AZ. I surely hope you on
-> firm ground here.
Profit press has been around for about 2 1/2 years as my business has been
around for more then 5 yrs.
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From: DENIS DYE Number: 3002
To: NICK PETKOVICH Date: 09/16/93 8:15a
Subj: CD with CAD programs! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> -=> Guilherme Moura said something to All about CD with CAD programs! <=-
>GM> Anybody knows any Cd with only CAD programs ??
>GM> Programs for AutoCAd, Lisp...
>GM> I see any Cd with areas for CAD... but it's poor...
>I dont know any, but if you do find any, can you let me know?
><< Nick >>
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>
Hello,
AutoDESK puts out a CD-ROM with AutoCAD 12 but for CAD programs on it...
It could use some help. If you need AutoLISP program to do something
write me and I'll give it a try. If you are just wanting to see what is
out there try looking at some of the CAD magazines.
Reach me here or at d_dye@access.digex.net
GC
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From: ED TURNOCK Number: 3003
To: ED YEE Date: 09/15/93 11:36a
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible system"? Refer: NONE
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The thing I am missing is the sound card. Aparently the program for these
CDROMs require it.
Thanks for the help.
Ed
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From: KEVIN WILLIAMS Number: 3004
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/14/93 7:58p
Subj: Pioneer DRM 600 problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hello. Need a little tech help with a new DRM 600. It will not look
-> at my Future Domain TMC 845 controller and I have no idea why. I
-> have tried shifting the memory location but to no avail. Anyone with
-> suggestions about what to try/how to best troubleshoot? I thought
-> this would be "plug and play" but so far, nothing doing! Thanks.
I am not using a Future Domain, but did read a special section
concerning the 845 in the back of the installation manual. If you
haven't gotten it up yet, try back there.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3005
To: MARC CIRCOSTA Date: 09/12/93 9:12a
Subj: Aus. 562B distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MC> Just wondering if I could ask a about the availablity of
MC>the new Panasonic 562B drive that everybody seems to be
MC>tac...), or maybe even better, if it comes packages with
MC>the SB16 and needed cables to join the two?
I sell them. You can make your own pakage.
Sound Blaster Pro Basic........................................$119.
Sound Blaster Pro Deluxe + Free Encyclopedia CD................$129.
sound Blaster 16 without ASP...................................$169.
Sound Blaster 16 ASP + Microphone .............................$209.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * Voice 310-602-2076 8am-1pm,7pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: GEORGE PORTER Number: 3006
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/15/93 2:07p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-New Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Misquoting Lee Noga to All <=-
LN> Consists of swimsuit, topless, bottomless, girls with girls, wet
LN> t-shirts, teasers, full frontal nudity, waist-up shots--Very few "XXX"
LN> ones, but there are a few...
There are minors reading these messages... Isn't there some other echo for
this stuff?
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: CRASH MAN Number: 3007
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/13/93 5:43p
Subj: Sound card connection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PS> the CDROM. The Pro Audio Spectrum (PAS) series has an SCSI controller on
PS> it and you can use any SCSI CDROM drive with the proper drivers. The
PS> Sound Blaster series (SB***) has there own type of controller and this
What if you already have a SCSI controller (in my case,
Adaptek) and only one device connected to it (HDD)? Are you better off
connecting the CD-Rom to the Sound Card (SB-Pro) or to the controller?
Are there any dis/advantages in either case?
<.~|_. /<.
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From: ANDREW BARFOOT Number: 3008
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/09/93 10:28p
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
In a message to All <31 Aug 93 14:35> Bob Hall wrote:
BH> I have seen a few messages about starting a new echo for multimedia, and
BH> other "branches" from this main echo. I for one, do not see that other
BH> echo's would serve the purpose. I do, however, have some suggested
BH> changes. Please make note of the changes:
You are the boss, but what do peole in countries like Australia do when the
other echo's you mention do not reach our shores. There is a lot of information
supplied by the U.S. dealers that we would never get to see. Please do not
change the advertising rules on this echo. Remove the Xlia do when the other
echo's you mention do not reach our shores. There is a lot of information
supplied by the U.S. dealers that we would never get to see. Please do not
change the advertising rules on this echo. Remove the
to p3 104/1 echo. /99 /12 13other "L. BARFOOT49/99 250/99 101 2MBUG36 901
Melbo/33 'Beplicabu Gro887 7395238 (Q10/8 one, do 1 501 601 701
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From: MIKE DRUMMOND Number: 3009
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/13/93 3:49p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>Shareware and adult titles are purchased by sysops, by a ratio of 5:1, at
>least
>from CD-ROM International. The other subjects 7:37 MUCH ejandr m
IdriguezHAREWARE 2....1er.raCD's to stock SysOps. I don't have F7BC
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3010
To: ANTON SWART Date: 09/16/93 2:20a
Subj: Re: Kings quest 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> YO boris....
>> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet.
>> R u having problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum
>> prob. DONT FAX just dont :) leave me a message is echo . hmm..
>> Pleez be quick 2 reply if u reply coz my subscription is
>> nearly up - 13 dayz cheers l8ta
Your order was faxed to us on 93/09/02 at 14:55 hrs. Your order was
proccessed the next day and shippied via AIR MAIL at 10:48 hrs.
Normal travel time is 7 - 10 days and that depends on customes as well.
I would think you should receive your order within the next few days.
You have our fax number, please contact us if you have any further
questions or problems.
Boris Osadciw
... Every Silver lining has a clone around it.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3011
To: JOSEPH ROBERTSON Date: 09/16/93 2:20a
Subj: Re: Multi-spin cd-rom drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GM>>Think Hard Now! Which One is Shinola?
GM>>A last thought. I bought my Mitsumi because bat the time it was the th
GM>>only drive that was MPC complaint for under US$200. There is a much be
GM>>drive available For around US$250. This drive is a Panasonic(sp) #562B
GM>>that will transfer data twice as fast as the Mitsumi 150k/s to the 56
GM>>300k/sec The Panasonic maybe a much better drive for a few $ more.
>> Where have you seen this Panasonic drive advertised
>> for $250.00? Can you use a SCSI interface with the
>> drive, and what is the seek rate of the drive? Thanks for any
>> information.
Joseph, we currently have the Panasonic in stock and it's priced at $250.
It comes complete with drive, cable, manual and Proprietary Interface card.
If you need additional information, please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3012
To: JOHN PENDLETON Date: 09/14/93 10:53p
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
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What the heck is MINT and ICD's SCSI PRO? I was told that the Atari Falcon030
came with the SCSI interface built-in, and the SCSI driver is supposed to be
included on the built-in hard drive. Don't tell me I'd need to go out and buy
a bunch of driver software too... :-(
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From: BRUCE WILSON Number: 3013
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/15/93 12:00a
Subj: 7th Guest W/ 100% Video Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-11-93 Kevin Sullivan wrote to Rowan Evans...
KS> ML> It seems that the only people getting 100 are VLB....
KS> unfortunately
KS>
KS> ML> JS> BTW, the 86% with the ATI sounds awfull. I got 74% using
KS> ML> JS> a Trident JS>8900CL ISA card on a 486SX/25.
KS>
KS> RE> Considering the fact that its in a DX2/66 its possible that the
KS> processor
KS> RE> speed has had an effect on this score (whether for better or
KS> worse, I
KS> RE> don't know!).....
KS>
KS> Maybe not... I have a 486DX/33 with Cardex VLB Tseng ET4000 based
KS> chip,
KS> fast for DOS & Windows, and it gets 100% in T7G. Great little game,
KS> though
KS> I have just begun...
KS>
KS> * SPEED 1.20 [NR] * Braise the lord! 350 degrees for an hour, add
KS> veggies..
KS>
KS>
KS> --- WM v3.01/92-0751
KS> * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
KS>
KS>
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From: DAVID CHILDRESS Number: 3014
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/14/93 9:14a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-11-93 Kevin Sullivan wrote to David Childress...
Hi Kevin!
KS> DC>I have a few questions that I would like to ask about CD-ROM
KS> systems.
KS>
KS> I'm probably not the best to answer, but I think I can help out.
You helped a lot, thanks!!
I'm looking for a nice CD-ROM bundle that will be used for study,
games, information (dictionarys, etc.) files, etc.
I guess $500 is not out of the question +or-.
Thanks again for your feedback! :-)
-=Dave=-
KS> * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
How's things in Tokyo?
... OFFLINE 1.50
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From: STEVE ROY Number: 3015
To: MICHAEL GODDARD Date: 09/13/93 9:10p
Subj: Canadian Supplier for Night Owl 9 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Michael Goddard wrote in a message to All:
MG> In August, someone in Vancouver, BC announced they had Night
MG> Owl, version 9, at Can$50. Shortly thereafter, another
MG> message appeared, this time from Saskatchewan or Alberta
MG> saying there was a local (to them) supplier with NO#9 at
MG> about Can$35. I've lost that message, and I'd like to find
MG> that Sask/Alta supplier.
MG> Does anyone remember or does anyone know the address of that
MG> supplier?
I have one left at $40.00 CDN...interested? (plus postage)
Cheers,
Steve
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From: MARCO ZERBINI Number: 3016
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/13/93 9:38p
Subj: Sale Cd-Rom'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> TOO MANY MORE TO
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATA
NB> E-mail ADDRESS OR
NB> ADDRESS!!!!
Please Email a complete list to me at
marco.zerbini@bbs816.mandic.onsp.br
Thank you
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 3017
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/15/93 5:26a
Subj: 562b/563 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the information on the 562b/563 Panasonic CD Rom and it was just
what the doctor ordered. What had me mildly puzzled was when I asked Creative
about the 562b, their reply was that their software / drivers were being
written for the 563 and there was the possibility that their software would /
might not be reliable when using the 562b. I guess one could say that this
might be a good way to sell lots of 563 OMNI packages.
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 3018
To: HEATHER KRAUSE Date: 09/15/93 5:39a
Subj: Creative Labs #BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The number change came as a bit of a surprise. I had not called Creative for
about three weeks, so when the old number responded with a 2400 carrier, my
response was "What the...". Oh well, the more things change the less they stay
the same. Glad to have been of some help.
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From: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Number: 3019
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 10:05p
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a CD562B onto my
system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram, and a Sound Blaster Pro.
No luck reading disks.
The hardware installation went very quick since "they" say that it plugs
directly into the SBPRO. We then installed the audio cable into the SBPro.
The Drive number was set to "0" on the 562B. The installation disk supplied
was a COMPRO disk which appeared to be very quick and simple by selecting the
562B drive with the SBPRO. After following all of the instructions, we
re-booted the system, the autoexec.bat and config.sys appeared to be ok the
information on the CDROM appeared to be ok allocating it as Drive D, the busy
light on the CDROM went on and the rest of the configuring continued. We then
tried to access the CDROM and this is where the problem occurred, - NOTHING -,
no access, no busy light on the CDROM drive, nothing. This basically is the
problem, it will not access the drive. We even installed another drive, same
type, and the same problem. Tried changing the connector cable around on the
SBPRO, nothing. The Disk was placed properly on the platter. The SBPRO manual
is very vague with no troubleshooting hints. It does mention that a 521c drive
can be installed.
The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I doubt.
Please help by providing some ideas or solutions. Thanks in Advance.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3020
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/14/93 1:49p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 11 Sep 93 John Rackley wrote to me:
JR> Thanks for posting that bulletin!
No problem!
JR> So, the CD32 does have a floppy connector? Good, it can be upgraded
JR> for use as a multimedia computer as well as a CD-ROM based game
JR> machine.
JR> Too bad they left out the parallel port!
I don't think the CD32 has a floppy connector, but it will when you add the
expansion module. Same with the parallel port.
In the next few messages I'll post an updated list of CD32 titles.
Gary
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3021
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 12:43p
Subj: CD32 Titles 1/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
--==< Titles to be released for the Amiga CD32 >==--
Compiled from various sources on the networks
* = new since last update
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1884 (Millenium)
1869 (Flairsoft)
7th Guest (Virgin) -
Perhaps. Once the FMV module is out.
Akira (Ice) -
From the film.
Alfred Chicken (Mindscape)
Alien Breed 2 (Team 17)
Ambermoon CD32 - November release
Amiga CD Football (Plattsoft)
B 17 Flying Fortress (Microprose)
Battlestorm (Titus) *
Biosphere (Bullfrog)
Body Blows [2] (Team 17)
Burning Rubber (Ocean)
Cannon Fodder (Virgin)
Captive 2 (Mindscape)
Case of the Cautious Condor (Tiger Media) *
Chaos Engine (Mindscape)
Cinderella (Discus) *
Civilization (Microprose)
Compilation Disk (Mindscape) *
Composer Quest (Virtual Entertainment)
Connoisseurs of Fine Art (Lascelles) *
Creation
Daughter of Serpents (Millenium)
Defender of the Crown II (Sachs Entertainment)
Diggers (Millenium) -
"Diggers has been written from scratch on the CD32 -
it's not a conversion. There are six digital CD audio
tracks, at *least* 256 colours used throughout, with
24-bit copper backgrounds. The 34 levels each consist of
32,000 locations, with seven terrain types. Because we
didn't have to worry about the size of the game, we were
able to go to town with the amount of graphics."
- Toby Simpson ( Programmer )
Dino Worlds (Millenium)
Dogfight (Microprose)
Dracula (Psygnosis)
Drive Fractalus (Mindscape)
Dune [2] (Virgin)
England World Cup '94
Epic (Ocean)
FA Premier Soccer (Ocean)
Fantastic Voyage (Centaur) *
First Contact (Ocean)
Flashback (US Gold)
Flight of the Amazon Queen (Renegade)
Formula One GP (Microprose)
Frontier (Konami)
Global Chaos (Hex) *
Grolier Encyclopedia 2 (Xiphias)
Guiness Books Of Records (New Media)
Gunship 2000 (Microprose)
Hero Quest-Legend of Soracil (Gremlin) *
Heroic Age of Space Flight/NASA (Troika) *
Indiana Jones FOA (Lucasarts)
Inferno (Ocean)
Insight Technology (Optonica)
International Championship Golf (Ocean)
James Pond [2] (Millenium)
John Doe (Ocean)
Jurassic Park (Ocean) -
This is an Ultima Underworld/Wolfenstein 3D type game where you
have to hunt Raptors etc...
18+ months in development so far: October
release. "We couldn't do the 3D section with the
kiddy-type consoles, but we can with the Amiga."
- Ciaran Brennan of Bastion, Ocean PR
May be bundled with the CD32.
Legacy (Microprose)
Lemmings Compilation (Psygnosis) *
Liberation (Mindscape)
Lionheart (Thalion)
Litil Divil (Gremlin)
Long Hard Day at the Ranch (Discus) *
Lotus Turbo Trilogy (Gremlin)
Magic Carpet
Manchester United 2 (Krisalis)
Microcosm (Psygnosis)
Monkey Island (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 2 (Lucasarts)
Monkey Island 3 (Lucasarts) -
Perhaps.
Mortal Kombat (Acclaim/Probe)
Moving gives me a stomach ache (Discus) *
--==> Continued next message! <==--
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3022
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 12:44p
Subj: CD32 Titles 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mr. Nutz (Ocean)
Mud Puddle (Discus) *
Musicolor (Virgin)
Nick Faldo's Championship Golf (Grandslam)
Nigel Mansell GP (Gremlin)
North Polar Expedition (Virgin)
One Step Beyond (Ocean) -
The follow-up adventure of Quavery Colin. Release: Christmas.
Oscar (Flairsoft)
Overdrive (Team 17)
Pinball Dreams
Pinball Fantasies (21st Century) -
256 colour tables, CD-quality audio.
Pinball Illusions (21st Century)
Prehistoric (Titus) *
Premier Manager (Ocean)
Project X2 (Team 17)
Putty (System 3)
Return to the Lost World (Mirage - may licence)
Rise of the Robots (Mirage - may licence)
Robocod [3] (Millenium)
Rough and Tumble (Renegade)
Sabre Team (Krisalis)
Second Samurai (Virgin)
Sensible World of Soccer (Mindscape)
Sim City (Maxis) *
Sim Life (Mindscape)
SleepWalker (Ocean)
Snooker/Pool 2 (Virgin)
Soccer Kid (Krisalis)
Space Junk (Mirage - may licence)
Space Simulation (Gremlin)
Stamps of France and Morocco (Seriat) *
Star Trek 25th Anniversary
Super Frog [2] (Team 17)
Syndicate (Bullfrog) -
Ability to look into buildings and rotate the 3D view (and no
doubt the other graphics & sound will be improved)
Tale of Peter Rabbit (Discus) *
TFX (Ocean/DID)
The Cure (Ice) *
The Legend of Soracil (Gremlin)
The Ninja Trilogy (System 3)
The Two Towers
Ultima Underworld (Mindscape)
Uridium 2 (Renegade)
Utopia 2 (Gremlin)
Various Games Park [Pack?] (Mindscape)
Whale's Voyage (Flairsoft)
Wing Commander (Mindscape)
Wing Commander 2 (Mindscape)
World Circuit Grand Prix (Microprose)
Zool [2] (Gremlin)
--==> The End! <==--
Gary
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From: DAVID HUTTON Number: 3023
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/15/93 7:39a
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PR>Know someone that has one he may want to sell how much are you wanting to pa
The last one I bought from someone cost me $100.00 I think that is about
considering the speed and how old the drive is. I would of course
also pay shipping. What were you thinking?
David
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From: DAVID HUTTON Number: 3024
To: JACK HUDDLE Date: 09/15/93 7:41a
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH>David: I have one of the DAK(soney CDU-6201-20) external units never
JH>used on a BBS only used for Shareware scanning and some CorelDraw 3.o
JH>DTP. It is like new, No scratches ,cigarette smoke stans spotless with
JH>cabel and Controler card shipped to you via USPS for 310.oo. If you are
JH>interested please call me at (614) 837 0303 I also have a machine on
JH>that number and if I should be out, I will return your call if you leave
JH>a voice number.....................
Sorry I can't go that high. The last one I bought I paid $100 and that
included the controller card and cable. I of course would pay for
shipping also. Thanks
David
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From: JERRY MILLIKIN Number: 3025
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 11:16p
Subj: New CD Titles Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello everyone,
I don't know if I can compete with the prices I've seen in here, but I
will give it a shot!
Software Vault Gold 36.00 released 9/1/93
Shareware Explorer 62.00 4 CD set, 26,000 files
Pier Shareware 2 33.00
Many others available: Call Family Computers, ask for Jerry or Lisa
513-833-5689
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From: JOE SLIFER Number: 3026
To: PHILIP CROOKES Date: 09/11/93 1:15a
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>DR >We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
PC> What do you think is immoral in this context?
Nobody pickup on the new rule changes yet?
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From: JOE SLIFER Number: 3027
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/11/93 3:09a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
>DH>However, I AM concerned about stuffing Multimedia into this echo. I
BH> Well, I think there would be room. Dunno, have been wrong before, and
BH> have the possiblity of being wrong again.
BH> But, I'd like to try it and see.....
I see nothing wrong with having Multimedia in here. Basically don't you already
have this... Soundcards, ect. Give it a shot... :-)
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3028
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:42a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
NEW FOR 1993
"SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD"
100% 1993 shareware files 600+ Megabytes of the best shareware of 1993
Six different file formats for use with all BBS's. All lists have been
searched and files are free of BBS ads for quality! The BEST BBS disc
around!
Sale Price $35.00
600+ Megabytes of Fully BBS Ready files
******************* UPDATED PRICE LIST ***********************
September 15, 1993
SUPER CD 1................ 22.00 SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00 SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00 NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95 SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50 SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50 TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50 CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
VGA SPECTRUM v2........... 19.00 CD-CADDYS................ 4.50
DR. WINODOWS...............22.00 DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00 DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
************************** ADULT TITLES ***************************
Note: You must be 21 or over to purchase these titles
ECTASY HOT PICS........... 35.00 BUSTY BABES.............. 35.00
ASIAN LADIES.............. 35.00 PC PIX 3................. 35.00
PORKWARE 2................ 35.00 HOT HUNKS................ 35.00
LUCIOUS LADIES............ 35.00 EROTIC ENCOUNTERS 2...... 35.00
*All in stock and ready to ship.
* Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each additional.
* CA Residents add 7.75% Sales Tax
* SEND check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to:
SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
2434 EAST 32ND STREET,
NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
* QUESTIONS/ORDERS 619-479-8688 10:AM to 7:PM PST.
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * S.D. ROM CONNECTION-CD SALES & MORE! 619-479-8688
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From: BERT BURLAND Number: 3029
To: MARK CROSBIE Date: 09/14/93 7:42a
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Mark!
Thursday September 09 1993 23:54, Mark Crosbie wrote to All:
MC> I am looking to get a Pioneer 6 pack in the near future. I have been
MC> unable to get prices here locally. Would anyone care to send me some
MegaHaus (800)786-1153 has an ad in the Oct. Computer Shopper on page 475
featuring the Pioneer 6 disc changers ranging in price from $839 to $1379. Hope
this helps. :)
Bert
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From: DONALD WEN Number: 3030
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 11:04p
Subj: Daisy-chain cd-roms Refer: NONE
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I have a Toshiba 3401E CD-ROM drive hooked up with a PAS-16 sound board.
Recently I got a NEC CDR-25 drive and I'm tempted to daisy-chain with the
3401. The CDR-25 is SCSI and has only one connector, so I can use it as the
last SCSI device and saved using a terminator. Can anybody suggest the use
of daisy-chained CD-ROM drives? I can think of one, albeit obvious: play
music CDs on the slow CDR-25 and access data on the fast 3401. :)
DONALD WEN
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From: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Number: 3031
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 2:57a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Unit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Would like to know is Mitsumi LU-005S a multi-session or multi-session
unit?
Steven
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From: MARK GWYNN Number: 3032
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/14/93 11:43p
Subj: Looking for used cd Refer: NONE
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@ORIGIN :ODIELINK MUSIC BBS - (614) 333-6343 - SB/ADLIB SUPPORT! N
-> I can get you any CD you want, give me your mailing address and i'll send
-> you a list.
Well, I didn't ask, but I'd like your list of CD's. Please send it to:
Mark Gwynn
604 S. Fayette St.
Washington C.H., OH 43160-2242
Thanks!
p.s.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3033
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 4:06p
Subj: Dealers WANTED !!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
Shannon Madix
Cheapest Prices around !!!!
1-800-865-5354
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3034
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 4:06p
Subj: Dealers WANTED ! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
Susan Burbank
Cheapest Prices around !!!!
1-800-865-5354
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3035
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/14/93 6:47a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RP> I think you are missing the point I was trying to make. The
RP> individual I was responding to was questioning whether or not to
RP> consider a caddyless drive. Here it is just as simple as I can put
RP> it.
RP> Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
RP> UNLIKELY to damage a CD disk.
Yes, but just damage one expensive CD and you may wish you had had it in a
caddy.
RP> Point #2 - Drives that do not use caddies do not eat CDs the same way
RP> a cheap cassette player eats cassettes. They should not be considered
RP> inferior for solely because they use a tray mechanism.
No. But for the most part, only the less expensive drives are caddy-less.
RP> Point #3 - If you purchase a caddy drive for protection it is
RP> reasonable that you must also purchase a caddy for each disk you own
RP> because you are just as likely to damage the disks putting then in and
RP> taking them out of caddies. Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an
RP> average cost of 40 dollars each and then buy 10 caddies at a cost of
RP> 7.50 each. You would have had to trash 2 disks or 20 percent of your
RP> programs before buying the caddies will save you anything above the
RP> cost of their purchase.
Caddies are only about $5 each which is not much to protect discs that can cost
a lot more than $40.
RP> Point #4 - If you do not take reasonable care of your equipment, if
RP> you possess no hand/eye coordination, if you are prone to getting
RP> drunk while using your computer equipment, if you consistently trash
RP> music CDs just by looking at them, or if you allow your children to
RP> play with your computer then purchasing a CDROM that uses caddies IS A
RP> NECESSITY.
Or if you simply prefer the safety and CONVENIENCE that a caddy drive offers.
Point #6. Caddies make it as easy to switch CDs as it is to switch floppies
without worrying about being extra careful.
I really think that it makes no sense to purchase a caddy-less CDROM drive
unless you don't really think you're going to use the CDROM drive very often
(and in that case, it may not make much sense to buy a CDROM drive).
-- Roger
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3036
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/14/93 6:59a
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF> However, it would be interesting if software manufacturers got
RF> together to make CD-ROM *drives* cheap enough so that "everyone" could
RF> afford one, and then put out their software *only* on CD-ROMs!
RF> (Presumably the CD games would also be made so big that it wouldn't be
RF> practical to copy them to floppies)
RF> There would be a lot of advantages here for everyone (except pirates
RF> and floppy disk manufacturers). Bigger (and presumably better)
RF> programs, losses due to pirating cut way down, the elimination of the
RF> "floppy shuffle," (replaced by the "CD shuffle"), etc, etc.
RF> What does everyone think of this idea?
And about that time cheap CDROM recorders hit the market and the pirates have a
field day. :-}
I'm kind of afraid of the price of recordable CDROM drives and media coming
down since companies will be afraid to put alot of data on CDROMs if the data
can be copied easily and inexpensively.
-- Roger
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3037
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/15/93 7:53a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC>> 1). What is the difference between multi-session and
DC>> single-session?
KS> refers to the way the disk is written, mostly an issue with the new
KS> Kodak Photo CD standard for putting your photos on CDROM. If they take
KS> all 100 pictures and make the disk in one pass, single session that
KS> all CDR's should be able to read. If they instead put on 20, then say
KS> 40, then again, all at different times, multi-session that only newer
KS> drives can read. If you don't expect to use Kodak photo CD in the next
KS> couple of years, probably not too big a deal.
Even if you do plan to use Photo CD, it may not be a big deal. Right now, it
is cheaper to get each roll of film transfered to a separate Photo CD at the
time of developing than to add pictures to a Photo CD. So it is cheaper just
to get a new single-session disc for each roll.
I've based the above statement on the cost that I pay for Photo CDs at Sam's
Club. This could change in the future.
-- Roger
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 3038
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 9:53p
Subj: Day of the tentacle Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I finished the Day of the Tentacle and now don't know what to do with the CD.
I watched the Rebel Assault demo & the Sam & Max demo at least 10 times
already. I pretty much used this CD as much as I can. Anybody in the North
Carolina area want to do a swap? I'd like to swap for the 7th Guest or a
couple of good shareware disks.
- Eric
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3039
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/15/93 9:17a
Subj: SEPTEMBER PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit on ads in this echo, thanks in advance for adhering to the
rules.
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3040
To: ADRIAN VERGOT Date: 09/15/93 9:18a
Subj: MAKE YOUR OWN CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit on ads in this echo, thanks in advance for your adhering
to echo rules.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3041
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/15/93 9:21a
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stop the damned ads exceeding the limit.
Bob Hall
Moderator
1-800-550-3503 if you want to talk about it.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3042
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 09/15/93 9:22a
Subj: CDROM ECHO FALLS OFF Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CM> > According to a recent post by Mike Fuchs, this echo (CDROM) has
CM> > fallen of the echolist and will be removed from the backbone.
CM>So what can we do to prevent this from happening?
It is taken care of.........
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3043
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 9:43a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Perplexing.
This echo, is going back to the way it has always been, and will remain
so, possibly through infinity. It is in the echolist, and will remain
so. It will not go away. The 10 (ten) line limit on ads will be
acceptable. However, recently there has been blantant abuse, and I am
getting calls, etc over the issue. As before, I basically let the echo
and the users set the rules, and when I start getting calls, then I
raise a little cain with everyone.
September 29th, this echo turns 10 years old. Yep, I looked up some old
records! When it started, a Philips CDR-101 was about all there was,
Hitachi had one out, but it was hard to find. Folks, that has been a
long time back. This echo has been a constant source of information,
and will remain to be so...... The first magazine dedicated to CDROM
was CDROM Review, by IDG. Two of their writers frequented this echo. It
fell by the wayside. Along came Linda Helgerson with CDROM End User.
Free subscriptions WERE available in this echo. CDROM End User fell,
too. And there are more slain in the battle, but this echo remains.
Friends have been made via this echo. That too, will remain as before.
Enemies and flamers have been made via this echo, and that too, WILl
remain as long as there are two working computers with modems on the
planet Earth. No way to change that. I still have an Australian
newspaper with an article about this echo, written 6 years ago, hanging
on my wall. My friends in Australia have became very special, as well
as countless others all over the world. All possible through this echo.
I can not think of a political topic that would of raised any more
debate than me requesting the adult topic be toned down in the echo.
Then when I officially requested it be taken to CDROMsale echo,
basically, all hell broke loose. There was only two reasons for that
decisions; 1. I don't think that children should have access to that
topic (this is an information echo), and --->>> 2. <<<--- people with
CDROM's are not the only people reading the echo. That topic has came
to light with the discussion of Mr. Tony Davis, and the confiscation of
his BBS with Adult titles on line. Please, anyone in the echo feel free
to talk to him, or perhaps, Lee Noga about that issue.
Presently, this is the only true international echo devoted to CDROM,
such as it is. CDROM has expanded, but for the majority, I can honestly
say I feel that the echo is serving its purpose. It is educational,
sometime fun, often challenging, informative, and basically filled with
wonderful people. However, there is an adequate amount of assholes
thrown in for good measure. :-)
I am not changing nothing.
see next message for rules.
Bob Hall
Moderator
1-405-340-3503
1-800-550-3503
net to 147/31 at the present time.
Snail Mail
19 W. 1st Street
Suite 4
Edmond, Ok 73034
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3044
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 9:52a
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Rules for this echo.
Fairly simple:
Topic: CDROM, and _related_ topics. They include laser optic
technology, multimedia, and simply put, CDROM related topics.
1. Don't over quote. Quote enough for others to understand your
message, but don't over quote, people are paying for your abuse. DO NOT
QUOTE entire ads!
2. 10 (TEN) line limits on ads. Not, 11, 12, 39, 84, but 10 (TEN).
Due to complaints, netmail, etc. I have been forced to enforce this
rule. Dealers, etc. be warned. Your orginating board can lose the
CDROM echo simply by your over abuse of the 10 line limit. I personally
think that 10 lines is adequate to give out information of your basic
product line, phone numbers, etc. It was a decision made by the users
of this echo, and not myself. It was agreed upon, and the majority made
the 10 line limit.
3. Hold your topic to CDROM, and CDROM related subjects.
4. Do not be excessively annoying.
5. Have fun, with the people, the technology, and the new media of the
future.
NB: I prefer the topic of adult titles be taken to the CDROMsale echo.
I still adhere to the idea that children have acess to this echo, as it
is international, and the topic of adult related material should not be
in the echo.
Bob Hall
Moderator
1-405-340-3503
1-800-550-3503
147/31 for netmail.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3045
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 9:59a
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Re the 10 line limit:These are just some of my personal reflections.
Permit me to ramble. As said before, 10 lines is adequate to get your
information out to the public. EX: I am a distributor of CDROMs too,
and have been since the beginning. I have never felt like it would be
fair for me to run ads over and over, and make it the "Bob Hall" CDROM
Distribution echo. SO, I rarely ever mention that I am "in the
business". Many of the dealers in the echo buy from me, and have bought
for many years. So, I would like to see the 10 lines held in
perspective. Thanks. Bob Hall, Moderator. See... 10 lines.
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From: ED YEE Number: 3046
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/15/93 6:11p
Subj: Re: WRITABLE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> No, no ,no. It is a WORM drive, not a CD. WORM stands for
LR> Write Once Read Many. While CD's certainly
LR> classify as a WORM medium, standard WORM drives do
LR> *NOT* use CD's.
No, duh.
I SPECULATED as to it's support. It would be unreasonable for a medium similar
to CD's not to be able to read CD-ROM's. It's like a high density drive not
supporting double density. It doesn't make sense. There should be backward
compatibility with older technology. My mistake. You guessed it, I like
speculating, then figure out if I'm right of wrong.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3047
To: TREVOR HANWELL Date: 09/15/93 8:19p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Trevor!
13 Sep 93, Trevor Hanwell writes to Pat Rickerson:
-=>> Quoting Pat Rickerson to All <=-
PR>> I still have Busty Babes #1 I'm willing to sell or trade.
PR>> $250.00 This CD has been going for as much as $450 so lets make a deal
TH> $250.00!!!!!!!!! I don't think so. I have seen it in Toronto for
$49.95
TH> - $69.95. I haven't seen any of those CD's over $80.00 Don't know
where
TH> you got it but you got ripped off.
Well, sorry. I have seen it for sale for this price maybe it was a bunch of
bull I was just saying what I have read. You know how things go, one minute the
price is nothing and the next thing it has sky rocketed.
Pat
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From: STEWART ROTHMAN Number: 3048
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:12a
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can get
much better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges either for
$29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per day at Video
rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up an expensive
computer viewing low quality cheescake or porn pix, when
they can get VHS tapes or magazines much cheaper. I'm not against
them or complaining about them being here in the echo, just curious!!!
Stu
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 3049
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 6:36p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale two months old with interface, docs, and
interface card. Still in box. $175.00 I'll pay shipping.
... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3050
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/14/93 6:29p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM support Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(Windows)
> RF> comparision you made is overdone.
> Not at all.
(Lots of other similar stuff deleted)
I'd LOVE to have answered all this stuff (I even took on a Microsoft
employee once on this kind of thing, so I'll take anyone on), but it
was getting way too off topic.
Unfortunately, most of the stuff I *can't* reply to I disagree with you
on, and most of the stuff I *can* reply to I agree with you on! :)
=======================================================================
> RF> ...Also, as obviously evidenced by all the questions about them,
> RF> the driver situation is not completely filled... *yet*.
> True, however, if one stays with SCSI, one not only
>gains the performance benefits of SCSI, one also has few
>problems under OS/2.
If one has it in the first place, then they can stay with it, the
obvious best choice. But moving to it in the first place is not cheap,
which, like the RAM prices, is probably one of the reasons many people
are still staying away from OS/2. Hopefully in the future prices will
continually go down here, as well.
It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under OS/2, go
SCSI if at all possible.
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From: RANDY RUZICKA Number: 3051
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 6:32p
Subj: NEC 84J Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a NEC-84J CD ROM, I believe it is double-spin. Is this true?
Are all NEC-84J's double-spin. How can you tell it is double-spin
and actually using the double-spin capabilities? I saw an ad for
one where it has a light indicator to indicate double-spin, mine
does not seem to have one? Does this mean mine is not double-spin?
All answers (and hopefully assurances) would be appreciated.
Randy Ruzicka
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 3052
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/16/93 11:16p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Neil Bergman to All <=-
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
NB> 1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
NB> LOS ANGELES, CA 90032 FAX: (310) 652-2608
Dear Mr. Shoreline,
I want to get your catalog as soon as possible. Please
E-Mail it to me or even mail it to me.
My name and address is:
Neil Ripston
10 Windham Drive
East Longmeadow, MA 01028
... I haven't lost my mind; it's backed up on tape somewhere!
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 3053
To: ROBERT MCGEHEE Date: 09/16/93 11:26p
Subj: READ ME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have the Texel DM 3024 Internal. I am quite happy with the drive and the
support.
I had a problem after they upgraded it to Photo CD compatibility, and they sent
me a new drive under warranty.
All I can say is I ahd a good experience with Texel.
... My hard disk is full! Maybe I'll try this message section thing.
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From: DAVID BARNETTE Number: 3054
To: GREG SIMMONS Date: 09/16/93 11:07p
Subj: Hey Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
I am glad to finally see you on here! How do you like it?
David Barnette
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From: WAYNE POWELL Number: 3055
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 09/16/93 3:46p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-= Mark Womack said to All about SPACE QUEST 4 on 09-12-93: =-
MW>Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
MW>the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
MW>transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
MW>I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
Mark,
Select the Hand Icon. Click immediately on the landing gear after
Roger walks on the screen. You may have to do this a couple of times until
you hit the right spot.
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From: BILL MILLER Number: 3056
To: ALL Date: 09/01/93 9:24p
Subj: cd-rom wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm in need of a cd-rom. Any make,model,speed,size,shape,or form. But
preferably an external make and a cheap buy. Leave mail if you want to
sell.
Bill Miller
P.S. I'd want the card, and cables to hook it up. And maybe some
caddies and disc's if possible.
Bill Miller
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From: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Number: 3057
To: ALL Date: 09/12/93 10:02p
Subj: National telephone directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for anyone who has any of the advertised national residential
telephone directory on CD. I believe they come in a set of 3 or so. I see
that DAK is advertising their set for $149. What other companies is selling
this type of disk(s) and what is their price?
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From: GREG SWAN Number: 3058
To: ALL Date: 09/06/93 9:22a
Subj: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hello all!
just wonder'd if anyone out here is a amiga user??????
if so do you have a cd-rom for it? was thinking abt getting one.
is it worth it?????? what do you think?????? are the games that much more
awesome?????? let me know please.
thanks!--------------------------------->greg
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3059
To: DAVID HUTTON Date: 09/17/93 2:27a
Subj: BSR CD-ROM wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David!
15 Sep 93, David Hutton writes to Pat Rickerson:
PR>> Know someone that has one he may want to sell how much are you wanting
PR>> to pa
DH> The last one I bought from someone cost me $100.00 I think that is about
DH> considering the speed and how old the drive is. I would of course
DH> also pay shipping. What were you thinking?
DH> David
Trying to find one for about that price maybe 125 but that's about it, it's
for my sons computer. Thank's for asking.
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3060
To: ED FEIN'S Date: 09/17/93 2:25a
Subj: cd caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Ed!
I will take the caddies if they aren't sold need address or please send COD
411 Ninth St. NAS
Corpus Christi, Tx 78418
Call to ver if you want or leave your #. 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: JACK VOORHIES Number: 3061
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/16/93 8:29a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive
> Model LU005U, this is there
> latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but
> am having trouble with
> the audio. I can get audio from the front
> connecting the drive to my sound card (a
> plain Sound Blaster) with the
James
You must change the pins in the small audio connector going to your sound
card. Just reverse the pins.
Jack
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From: PAXTON C. SANDERS Number: 3062
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 3:18a
Subj: Sound card Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FD>Will I loose something if my CD-ROM is not connected to the sound card
FD>
FD>Thanks
FD>
FD>Francois
Uh...sound, maybe? :)
Pax
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 3063
To: CHRIS FLYNN Date: 09/16/93 9:11p
Subj: CD ROM Catologues Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Can I also have one of your magazines??? My fax number is 819-682-9503
Chris
TTYL
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From: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Number: 3064
To: TREVOR HANWELL Date: 09/16/93 9:16p
Subj: Re: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sorry if I am butting in but I would like one of your CD-ROM catalogs...
Send it to the following address:
C E Bourguignon
293, North #5
Aylmer, Qc
J9H 6V9
Canada
Thanks in advance for your co-operation
Chris
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From: DAVID WILLS Number: 3065
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/16/93 8:39p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF>Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs
>BF>from this echo?
>No.. but I am curious.. WHY?!?
Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists and moral
do-gooders have once again used their collective might to knuckle under
another "public forum". Or should I say, "censored public forum" now?
<Dripping with acidic sarcasm> Of course, it's in the name of all
what's good and just that they "protect us from ourselves". We all
wouldn't want to end up in hell, now do we? Anyway, don't you know
that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
>:)
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From: DAVID WILLS Number: 3066
To: BRIAN HARTMAN Date: 09/16/93 8:40p
Subj: JAPANESE ANIMATION CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Anime. A Americian company called U.S. Manga had a CD with anime out,but it
>is
>now no longer in production. Anyone that has the CD and is intrested in
>selling,or knows where I can get a copy,please reply.
If you find anyone distributing, let the rest of us know in the anime
conf!
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From: BILL LAWRENCE Number: 3067
To: ARISTEDES MANIATIS Date: 09/15/93 3:20a
Subj: Re: CD ROM RECORDER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Aristedes Maniatis to All <=-
AM> I am looking for someone with a CD ROM recorder to write about 300 Mb
AM> to a CD. I know that the recorders are available for under $10,000. I
AM> am able to supply the files on 88Mb Syquest cartridges and I would be
AM> willing to pay a reasonably amount to have the CD made.
AM>
AM> I would appreciate any information whatsoever - please forward it to
AM> me via netmail as well as in this echo.
AM>
AM> Thank you,
AM> Ari
AM>
AM> -!- COUNTERPoint 2.3
AM> ■ MkNet ■ ish production & design (3:714/914.1@fidonet.org)
For one-off CDs we charge a flat $150 ($75 for additional copies of
the same CD). We accept information on QIC 80 tapes or other formats
with special arrangements.
Fast turn around (usually within 48 hours of receiving) and privacy
for your data. For more information or to make a CD, contact
Anasazi Computing
P.O. Box 15935
Phoenix, AZ 85060-5935
(602) 902-0430
... This BBS has achieved Air superiority.
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From: BILL LAWRENCE Number: 3068
To: DAVID CHANDLER Date: 09/15/93 3:21a
Subj: Re: CD ROM MANUFACTURERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting David Chandler to All <=-
DC> Who manufacturers CD-Roms and how much does the process cost? I am a
DC> software author and have a program with data enough to fill a CD. Any
DC> leads?
DC>
DC> --David Chandler
DC>
DC> -!- DB 1.39/004485
DC> ■ MkNet ■ The Diamond Bar BBS - 909-923-1031 - Ontario, CA
DC> (1:218/101) BY
For one-off CDs we charge a flat $150 ($75 for additional copies of
the same CD). We accept information on QIC 80 tapes or other formats
with special arrangements.
Fast turn around (usually within 48 hours of receiving) and privacy
for your data. For more information or to make a CD, contact
Anasazi Computing
P.O. Box 15935
Phoenix, AZ 85060-5935
(602) 902-0430
... Blue Wave! Not just for FIDONet anymore!
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 3069
To: GEORGE PORTER Date: 09/16/93 4:46p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-New Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <09-15-93 14:07> George Porter wrote:
GP>> LN> Consists of swimsuit, topless, bottomless, girls with girls, wet
GP>> LN> t-shirts, teasers, full frontal nudity, waist-up shots--Very few
GP>> "XXX"
GP>> LN> ones, but there are a few...
GP>> There are minors reading these messages... Isn't there some other
GP>> echo for
GP>> this stuff?
Is this a first amendment question?, don't see where the general description is
going to influence any child to be a serial rapist. It's one thing for them to
read about the disc, and its another to view the disc--Sorry my friend if this
is offending, but this is hardly an issue of obscenity.
If the children are realizing that women can be photographed nude from my post,
well then I am glad they learned it from me--
-=*>Lee<*=-
"Sucessful parent of a son, and 2 grandkids"
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From: ARNIE GROSS Number: 3070
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/16/93 12:13a
Subj: Re: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
HENRY -
13 Sep 93, HENRY PAUL writes to MIKE SHANNON:
HP> What can you tell me about Dr. Music? I just got my own
HP> board up and am thinking about adding a CD of files to
HP> my board. My theme is Music & Aviation so this sounds good.
Sorry to tell you this is just a rehash of old files. I have a
master file list here if you want to f'req it from our BBS.....
- Arnie :+}
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From: DON RIEB Number: 3071
To: JULIUS FAJARDO Date: 09/15/93 9:28a
Subj: Re: NEW FREE CDROM CATALOG! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JF> Hi its Julius from Australia,
JF> Just curious to know whether these titles have come out in Canada.
JF> Rebel Assualt ( LucasArts )
JF> Iron Helix ( Spectrum Holobyte)
JF> Microsom ( Psygnosis )
JF> Spaceship Warlock ( Reactor )
JF> Screaming Metal ( Reactor )
JF> Return to Zork ( Interplay ??? )
JF> and if you know of any other hot CD games coming out soon,
JF> say now to early 1994.
JF> Thanks in advance
JF> JF
Hi Julius!
I don't know what you mean by canida but here is some of the games I have seen
that are available on CDROM.
Battle Chess
Chess Maniac Nat Lampoon
Chessmaster 3000
DUNE
Eye of the Beholder 3
Fly & Drive Spectacular
Four Queens Computer Casino
Hyper Backgammon
Indiana Jones Fate of Atlantis
King's Quest 5
Leasersoft Top Tracks
Leader Board Collection
Loom
Lost Treasures Infocom V1
Manits
Pentomino
Private Eye Mysteries
Putt Putt Joins the Parade
Ringworld
Secret\Luftwaffe
Secrret Monkey Island
Seventh Guest
Sherlock Holms Consutling Detective 1, 2 and 3
Space Quest IV
Triple Tris Challange
Whacky Funster
Willy Beamish
Wing Commander 2/secret Missions
** Don Rieb **
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From: RYAN DAWSON Number: 3072
To: TOBBY RYAN Date: 09/16/93 6:55p
Subj: CD+graphics Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey there. I don't know where you can get such a program but if you do
find out, I'd like to know. CD+G discs are fascinating. How can you
tell if your music disc has graphics on it? I heard that a lot of the
early compact discs where CD+G but that they weren't all that popular so
they stopped making them that way. Oh well, just curious. Sorry I
couldn't help you. I've been looking for such a program myself. Let me
know if you find one.
Thanks,
Phantom1
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From: RYAN DAWSON Number: 3073
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/16/93 6:58p
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
(714) 562-5030
Your welcome,
Phantom1
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From: JAMES REAMES JR Number: 3074
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/15/93 11:49p
Subj: Re: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On Tue 14-Sep-1993 9:05a, Paul Swider wrote:
PS> I need the number for Virgin Games BBS to see if they have a fix for
PS> a video problem I am having. Diamond doesn't have a fix on their BBS
PS> and I lost the card that might have had the Virgin Games BBS number
PS> on it. Thanks in advance! >Paul<
PS> ... OFFLINE 1.50 "Knowing Murphy's law won't help either."
PS> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
PS> * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k
PS> (1:209/710)
all you need to do is call a bbs that has the update for the game on it.. It
fixes ALL the vesa problems and other stuff...
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* Origin: Powerstation BBS* Grand Prairie,Tx. 214-606-0327 (1:124/6302)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3075
To: DICK HUDDLESTON Date: 09/16/93 4:15p
Subj: CDs Arrived Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Glad they arrived OK. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers!
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: ED YEE Number: 3076
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/16/93 5:08p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JW> I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW> latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW> the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted
JW> headphone jacks but by
JW> connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain
JW> Sound Blaster) with the
JW> cable that came with the sound card and then
JW> running the out put of the
JW> sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there with
Rowan Evans told me that you could not do this. Only the pro and up series has
audio input directly on the cards.
I tried this with my 16 bit sound card, and it works fine, I actually can share
a pair of speakers, now.
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 3077
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/16/93 7:40p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> The WPS, although FAR better than Windows, also stinks to high
LR> heaven. My best advice to the OS/2 user is to dump the WPS, as well.
Ever tried a MacIntosh?
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3078
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/16/93 12:00p
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:37p Private: No
BH=>Stop the damned ads exceeding the limit.
Wont happen again.
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * S.D. ROM CONNECTION-CD SALES & MORE! 619-479-8688
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3079
To: CHRISTIAN BOURGUIGNON Date: 09/16/93 12:01p
Subj: Catalogs wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB=>Thank you very for sending the catalog when I get it...!
No problem, anytime.
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * S.D. ROM CONNECTION-CD SALES & MORE! 619-479-8688
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3080
To: ADRIAN VERGOT Date: 09/16/93 12:57p
Subj: MAKE YOUR OWN CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Adrian,
Your offer sounds interesting, could you give me more info and prices.
Please send details to:
SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION
2434 EAST 32ND STREET,
NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
Thanks,
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * S.D. ROM CONNECTION-CD SALES & MORE! 619-479-8688
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3081
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/16/93 1:10p
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
BH=>NB: I prefer the topic of adult titles be taken to the CDROMsale echo.
Mr. Hall,
By this you mean, that in advertisements they must, be divided, say the
"Shareware and Games, and non-adult" is ok here and ADULT titles are to
be posted in the CDROMsale Echo? Or are you referring to just the
"discussing" of Adult titles?
Thank you for your time,
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION-CD SALES - 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3082
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 2:00p
Subj: CDS-FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NEW FOR 1993 "SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD"
100% 1993 shareware files 600+ Megabytes of the best shareware of 1993
Six different file formats for use with all BBS's. All lists have been
searched and files are free of BBS ads for quality! The BEST BBS disc
around! Sale Price $35.00
Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% SEND
check/money order in US funds payable to Adrian Salas to: San Diego ROM
Connection 2434 East 32nd Street National City CA 91950 USA
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3083
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 2:08p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Thank you
Adrian Salas
* QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
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From: DAN BUDA Number: 3084
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/16/93 11:31p
Subj: Re: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Brice... I think it was Adaptec that bought Trantor... I know for sure that
Trantor was bought by someone <Grin>
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From: TIM CANFIELD Number: 3085
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 12:29p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if anyone
else has a clue?
1> Can't pass the boiling water.
2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
is)
Leave me a note - if ya can help -
Candid Kid
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From: KEN UHRICK Number: 3086
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/14/93 9:44a
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-
>> Unfortunately, Ismail's not alone. This CD is being hawked to
>> sysops in several adult echos/links as "New, Hot, and BBS
>> Ready". I tried to warn them (hawkers). Told them to read the
>> back of the jewel case (copyright notice); told them to look
>> at the "FILES.BBS" files (they're there but useless); etc. I
>> was told rather impolitely to buzz off. I guess Blaine's got
>> his work cut out for him (sigh). --- FreeMail 1.07b
BO> Well, let's put a warning lable on it ...."Southern Beauties - If
BO> placed on any BBS systems for users access, they will be suide by Blain
BO> Richards, no if ands or butt's <- sorry for the pun!"
BO> That'll get there attention !!
I FELL that sellers need to tell users that its not a bbs disk befor
selling it too sysops
i MITE BE NUTTS but the sellers dont care or some thing it that sell
A non bbs cd-rom AS bbs ready
... "I'll forgive Jane Fonda when the Jews forgive Hitler."
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 3087
To: JOSEPH THOMAS Date: 09/17/93 3:52a
Subj: MITSUMI OS/2 DRIVER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> How does one order the OS/2 CDROM Driver for the Mitsumi CDROM?
> I am interested in purchasing it.
CM> I have a copy on my BBS. If the BBS you're using lets
CM> you FREQ files, please feel free to request it from me
CM> (1:244/110). It's called OS2_LU.ZIP.
JT> If this is shareware, it is probably out of date and
JT> may not work correctly.
JT> I have a copy of Florida's driver for Mitsumi, which did not
JT>work for me, so I am selling it for the same price. Tnx.
True but the out of date beta (OS2_LU.ZIP) does tell you how to order the Germ
drivers which are excellent.
l8r,
Scott
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* MR/2 1.52 NR * Windows NT: From the makers of Windows 3.0!
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From: PAUL KNOX Number: 3088
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/17/93 6:43a
Subj: LOOKING FOR USED CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for a disk full of shareware to use on my bbs. My address is as
follows:
Paul Knox
2405 Southdale Rd.
Hephzibah, Ga.
30815
Thanks
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From: CHIP MORROW Number: 3089
To: BILL LAWRENCE Date: 09/16/93 7:14a
Subj: Re: EL CHEAPO CDROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BL> I will buy the Natl Geo. Mammals and the Sample This!
BL> will you take $12.00 for them? Let me know.
The day after I posted that note, someone locally showed up at my
front door with cash in hand and took all five. Thanks for the
interest.
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From: JOHN PENDLETON Number: 3090
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/17/93 1:10a
Subj: Re: SHAREWARE AND CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JR> What the heck is MINT and ICD's SCSI PRO? I was told
JR> that the Atari Falcon030 came with the SCSI interface
JR> built-in, and the SCSI driver is supposed to be
JR> included on the built-in hard drive. Don't tell me
JR> I'd need to go out and buy a bunch of driver software too... :-(
JR>
OK, your talking about the Falcon. MINT is now MultiTOS on the Falcon, you'r
set there. Ataris driver software is supposed to support the CD-ROM, I don't
know for sure, I haven't seen any responce on the Atari Echo to that effect.
Not being able to afford the Falcon yet myself, I am running the CD-ROM on my
STe via MINT and ICD's SCSI Pro software. Yes, the SCSI port is built into the
Falcon, as well as a IDE port (internal).
John
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From: GERALD RYCKMAN Number: 3091
To: ERIC STAUFER Date: 09/16/93 4:41a
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ES>> I would like to ask a quick question here...
ES>> Does anyone have any descriptions whatsoever for a Cd called GIFs
>>Galore by Walnut Creek CD-ROM? I called and asked the company but they said
>>that they make any... If you run a bbs, and do have descriptions, I'll FREQ
>>the descriptions from you.. Thanks in advance...
I have it online on my BBS but unfortunatetly it is currently under
reconstruction (because of a network crash...several harddisks lost
permanently). It should be back up by no longer than next month. If you
wish, you can call my BBS at 1-416-286-6063 after October 1st, 1993.
The disk is not "BBS Ready", meaning there are no descriptions. I had
to enter the descriptions one by one on the 6500+ files...and it's
still not yet completed. BTW, once you logon into Silent Services HQ,
you will have full access and no paid registration is neccessary.
Download all you wish and no upload/download/message ratio is
incorporated. Simply just run the CDROM Door at the main prompt. We're
still working on a customized update of the CDROM door...more features
added include graphic conversion and compression, and Age Limitation
Accessing. Anyways, hope this will help. SSHQ also has over 22*
gigabytes of CDROMs ranging from G-Rated GIF's to X-Rated GIF & 24-bit
TGA/TIF pictures to 24-bit Kodak/CorelDraw Photo CD photos (.PCD).*
And Sorry, we only support 14.4k v.32bis to 19.2k ZyXEL modems.
* 1st 1.11 #1060s *
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From: GERALD RYCKMAN Number: 3092
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 5:49a
Subj: CD WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone out there sell the following CDs:
-- Any CD full of .MOD music ONLY. No WAV, VOC, MID, or any other
type of music format. No Dr. Music CD please.
-- Any CD full of 24-bit TGA 640x480x16m and up. Doesn't matter
whether they are all G-rated or all X-rated.
-- Any CD of G-rated GIFs other than GIF Galore and Night Owl G1,
and must contain of at least 2000 SVGA GIFs.
*
-- And cheap. Resonable priced.
-- And cheap S&H.
Thanks.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3093
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/15/93 5:14a
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Ashwin!,
-> I know what you mean Henry, I got the InterAction magazine and the ga
-> looks real good and I hope to buy it too, but actually right now my e
-> are on Police Quest 4, I have never played any of the Police Quest
-> sereis so this is my first, hey by the way have you played SPace Ques
-> 4, the CD-ROM or the regular version, cuz if you have maybe you can h
-> me, please write back, C-ya and TTYL.
Yeah, I've been getting Interaction since it was the Sierra News
Magazine..
I have PQ3 and it is absolutely fablulous! My brother is nuts about PQ4
too. Yes, I have the entier SP series! It's my favorite! I have it on
disk, but still got to the end anyhow.
What are you having trouble with? Also, how old are you? I'm 17.
TTYL,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3094
To: DOUG DAGGER Date: 09/15/93 5:18a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Doug!,
-> HP> For instance, Wing Commander 2 with 512k EMS has somewhat choppy
-> HP> graphics, but if I increase that to anything more than 528k it r
-> HP> as
-> HP> smooth as anything...
-> So if I had about 1mb free RAM it would run pretty smoothly with no d
-> in graphics. What about if you had a graphics accelerator card, woul
-> make any difference?
Yes, 1mb should be great. The more the better. I don't know about an
accelerator card. Might help, but I don't know. I also have the cache
sectors maxed on mine. 64 on MTMCDE.SYS and 64 on MSCDEX.EXE. They can
be loaded high, and the caches can go in EMS/XMS memory.
l8r,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3095
To: EDWARD TUSHAR Date: 09/15/93 5:30a
Subj: CD's in the background Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Edward!,
-> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen to CD's whi
-> other work on the computer? Just wondering. And no, I don't do WIND
The driver that comes with the drive for playing them should...
I just start one up, and then go to the modem and read these messages!
<g>
Hope this helps!,
Henry
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3096
To: NIGEL ZETT Date: 09/15/93 5:35a
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Nigel,
-> Don't forget the Diamond Sonic Card, which includes wave table synthe
-> the same price as an SB PRO 16 ASP! (I have the SBPRO16ASP, and wish
-> held off a few weeks until the Diamond came out...)
Who makes the Diamond Sonic card?
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3097
To: ANTON SWART Date: 09/15/93 5:42a
Subj: Kings quest 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet. R u ha
-> problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum prob. DONT FAX just
-> leave me a message is echo . hmm.. Pleez be quick 2 reply if u reply
-> subscription is nearly up - 13 dayz cheers l8ta
You mean KQ6 right? Kq7 won't be out until a year from this Christmas.
So, don't hold your breath! <g>
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3098
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 09/15/93 5:48a
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
-> the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
-> transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
-> I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
-> inventory but they don't help a bit. This is so very frustrating!
-> I'm really beginning to hate Sierra games because of this. Getting
-> killed every 3 minutes does not make a game any more fun - it just
-> makes it more of a hassle to play.
Now, don't be putting down Sierra games because you're no good at them!
<g>
After the ship lands, head straight over to it and climb up the landing
gear towards the rear. Then the guards come back and it leaves to the
large tower in the background.
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From: ADAM EDWARDS Number: 3099
To: MARK ROUND Date: 09/13/93 11:47a
Subj: Wanted On Cd : D.O.T.T. & Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MR> Hiya Folks,
Hi,
MR> Does anybody have D.O.T.T. (DAY OF THE TENTACLE) for sale on CD?
Nope,
MR> ALSO, can anybody help with a few puzzles in 7th Guest I am stuck on the
MR> Kitchen "Lettered CAN's" puzzle, and also the four white chess and four
MR> chess pieces puzzle - played in the room where you are supposed to play
MR> maze game on the carpet????? Hope this makes sense?
Well here is a clue for the kitchen puzzle: You have to make a sentance
that uses words that mean the same as the words in the following
sentance:
bashfull, nomad, craftily, agilely, meet secretly, near, my, underground
vault.
As to the other puzzle all I know is that they are Bishops and are
subject to the rules of chess and that you have to get the white ones
where the black ones are and viceversa.
Hope this helps
Adam
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From: ADAM EDWARDS Number: 3100
To: DANIEL PRINCE Date: 09/13/93 2:11p
Subj: 16-Bit Sound Cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
DP> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
DP> 8-bit card sound better?
Nope.
DP> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
DP> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
DP> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
DP> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
16bit cards are only good for recording and playing back 16bit digital
voices. There aren't currently any games (except maybe 7th guest) that
have 16bit sound (voices) on them. They take up too much space.
DP> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
DP> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
DP> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
The ASP is a processor that enable compression and manipulation of Sound.
Good for voice recognition and storage of large sound bytes but not much
else.
DP> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
DP> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
DP> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
DP> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
don't know much about the new PAS16 series sorry.
See ya Adam
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From: DEREK BRYANT Number: 3101
To: ANDY MORRISON Date: 08/30/93 12:59a
Subj: CD-rom Shareware Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Andy..
> I am looking for shareware for ma wee bbs! They require the
You could always go for the Minerva set of Shareware CD's -- you can get all 3
for only 39 quid, and that will give you 18,000 (1.6 Gigs) of files. All the
latest and best files about.
cheers
derek.
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From: RICHARD MAYCOCK Number: 3102
To: KEN HARVEY Date: 09/12/93 2:44p
Subj: Re: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
With the medical community
KH> really drifting toward accepting homosexuality as a medical problem
KH> rather than a learned behavior it would be wise to change or atleast
KH> re-evaluate your opinion. You would not get mad at someone because
KH> they had cancer would you?
Homosexuality is analogous to cancer? Well, it will have to go back in
the closet now.
Richard Maycock
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: RICHARD MAYCOCK Number: 3103
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/12/93 3:15p
Subj: Re: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> It's JUST a tagline! Besides, when some socialist a**hole can get
DR> elected with 40-some% of the popular vote, against the will of the
DR> majority of our citizens, there's going to be a LOT of angry people!
Three points,
1. You wouldn't know a socialist if one bit your arse.
2. 40% of the vote was good enough to elect
Andrew Jackson (1824) 41.3%
Abraham Lincoln (1860) 39.8%
Woodrom Wilson (1912) 41.8%
and neither Washington, Madison, Jefferson or Monroe ever even had a
popular vote.
3. If you don't accept the validity of an administration with only 40 %
of the votes, which of the losers (with even less) do you consider to be
more valid?
DR> We Americans are in the middle of a crisis, here.
America is in a crisis as soon as it feels threatened. Cuba, Nicauragua,
Libya, Drugs, Japan etc. etc.
See you in the Philosophy echo.
Richard Maycock
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 3104
To: PHIL HORNBY Date: 09/13/93 9:29p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PD> This is how the system works in the UK
PH> ah-ha...so _you're_ the UK's other PhotoCD user :-)
No, there's me as well. <g>
... A Woman a day keeps the Wife away
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 3105
To: ANDY STEERE Date: 09/13/93 9:32p
Subj: Re: PANASONIC Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> 380ms figure. When operated in DV mode (not sure when the SingleSpeed
AS> mode is ever used), this is a 320ms drive.
Single speed is used for audio CDs. They'd sound pretty yuck otherwise.
Then again, some might sound better. <g>
... You are making progress if each mistake is a new one.
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: PADDY DRURY Number: 3106
To: RICHARD KLEISER Date: 09/11/93 2:44a
Subj: Re: Help Me Please!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Regarding which to buy
I have the panasonic running with a gravis ultrasnd all this into
a dell 486
I can not say about speed as this is the only setup I have used
but I have had NO problems with this. I did need some advise on
playing audio cds but it was just me being thick.
a well recomended setup
Paddy
... wat the hex a decimal anyway
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* Origin: CHEMI - CALL * DARTFORD * KENT * UK * +44-322-278652 (2:440/51.0)
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 3107
To: KEN CHAN Date: 09/13/93 12:15a
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KC> Have anyone tried mail ordering cd-rom disks? What is the procedure
KC>and most of all, can you trust them?
Yes. Have a VISA credit card, easiest way to order. Watch the echo for a
few weeks and see who gets high marks from qualified sources. The names
you see over and over are legit dealers, and are aware of the 10-line
advertising rule. If you see some huge ad over 10 lines, it is automatically
suspect in my book as the guy just pops in to plug something but doesn't
know or care about the rules of the echo. I ordered from Boris Osadciw,
and had no trouble at all, considering it was overseas and I am impatient.
He answers his phone and does what he says. A pro.
Several others are regulars as well, and that suggests they are honest or
they just wouldn't last in this echo if they were untrustworthy.
Occasional idiot buyers will yelp and malign, but you can usually read
between the lines on those, and a good dealer will have virtually no
enemies here. And, by the same token, a good dealer does not waste his
time bashing or running down other dealers with an axe to grind, even if
the other dealer does deserve some censure once in a while. Find a cool
tempered pro.
But the cruds who go over 10 lines are obviously new and perhaps
fly-by-nighters, or they know and don't care so they abuse rules and perhaps
other ethics with your money as well, or just plain stupid, so I avoid them
like the plague and suggest you do the same. They won't last and probably
don't follow the echo regularly, which says something to me of their
dedication to this market and their business practices. The guys that
sell here on a regular basis don't foul their own nest, so to speak,
or they did it once and were never heard from again. Go with regulars.
With private sales, all bets are off.
This is one view from 3 months of reading this echo and shelling out
over US$1250 here.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * ... Veni, vidi, vendi -- I came, I saw, I sold.
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* Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 3108
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/13/93 7:39p
Subj: ProAudioStudio + T7Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MA>I have the PAStudio16 and I love it.
Thanks again for getting me running with the PAStudio / Texel combo. BTW,
the kit has finally arrived (again?) at the post office, will pick up
tomorrow.
My question today: Can the 7th Guest be configured to work with the driver
NOT in SB compatibility mode? I spent a couple of hours playing the
DMA and IRQ shuffle with PAS orig and PAS + modes, but T7G complained it
couldn't find the hardware. What can/must be done to make T7G recognize
the PAS in native mode? Any advantage, i.e. 16 bit sound instead of SB 2.0
mono 8-bit?
Thanks again for all tips on setting it up, and any other CDrom programs
that can use the excellent PAS card in native mode.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * I knew something was wrong the moment she bit my nose.
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* Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 3109
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/16/93 12:04a
Subj: Southern Beasties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CB> I'm sick of reading crap like this (from everyone).
DR>BTW... I don't participate in this market any longer.
Good riddance.
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * I'd give you a piece of my mind, but I'm on the last 1.
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* Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
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From: KEVIN SULLIVAN Number: 3110
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/16/93 12:10a
Subj: Sound combatible Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AE>Seventh Guest has a patch to fix soundcard and video problems and also a
AE>patch to support the GUS directly instead of through SBOS.
Notice if a patch for the PAStudio 16 in native (not SB) mode was there?
* SPEED 1.20 [NR] * I'll mix metaphors until the cows come home to roost.
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* Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
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From: DICK HUDDLESTON Number: 3111
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/14/93 2:44p
Subj: CDs Arrived Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Bob, the CDs arrived and look great! I haven't had a chance to
try to fire them up, but wanted to let you know I appreciate them
and they will add a lot to my collection...Thanks.
... ABCD GIF? LMNO GIF. OSMRAB.
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
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* Origin: The Untamed Wilderness (713)480-8403 Intel 144EX
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3112
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/16/93 12:59p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
YOU HAVE TO SWITCH THE PIN AROUND. WHAT I MEAN IS YOU HAVE A FOUR PLUG
CONNECTOR, CORRECT. THE 2 OUTSIDE CONNECTION SHOULD CONNECT TO THE 2 INSIDE,
AND THE 2 INSIDE CONNECTS TO THE 2 OUTSIDE. BOY, THIS SOUNDS CONFUSING DOESNT
IT, BUT ITS NOT. A SIMPLE WAY IS TO GET A Y-PLUG TO DO THE SWITCH. MAYBE, I'M
NOT EXPLAINING THIS RIGHT, BUT IT WORKS
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15)
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From: DAVE WONG Number: 3113
To: IAN DALWOOD Date: 09/16/93 1:19p
Subj: RE: BUYING A CD-ROM PACKA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
THAT'S PACKAGE YOU MENTION. THE FUSION 16 IS EXACTLY WHAT I'M ABOUT TO BUY. CAN
YOU TELL ME ANY ADVANTAGE AND PITFALL I MAY ENCOUNTER. THE PRICE FOR THE BUNCLE
HERE IN SEATTLE IS $400.00 US. ANY SUGGESTION WOULD BE HELPFUL. BY THE WAY I'LL
BE GOING TO AUSTRALIA NEXT MONTH, HOW'S THE WEATHER?
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3114
To: PETER LASNE Date: 09/16/93 11:38p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Peter, thanks for the reply. I do not have an Amiga, but wouldn't mind
getting one in the form of a CD32 if the CD-ROM could be controlled
externally by my IBM. Adding the Amiga keyboard and floppy would come later.
What's the news on the CD32, when is it going to be released?
To the best of my knowledge, ParNet is an Amiga-only network. I'd be
iterested in using a SCSI network with different types of computers (other
than just Amiga-only).
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* Origin: ArcticNet - Steilacoom, Wa (206) 565-9740 (Opus 1:138/34)
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From: GARY HOFFERMAN Number: 3115
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 8:56a
Subj: Cdrom dealers wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All,
We are looking for resellers and system builders who would be interested in
marketing and/or bundling commercial, shareware, and adult CDROM software. We
offer a complete list of popular titles along with competitive pricing.
If you would be interested, please contact me at Consolidated CDROM
215-276-3657 voice, or 215-276-3657 fax (Principals Only)
Thanks,
Gary
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* OLX 2.1 TD * Backup not found: (A)bort (R)etry (P)anic
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From: JEFF COLLINGWOOD Number: 3116
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/17/93 9:23a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hello Mike!
In a message to Jeff Collingwood <09/15/93> Mike Shannon wrote:
MS> JC>In a message to Mike Shannon <09/11/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:
MS> JC>DC> Give it a rest....
MS> JC>Hey Doug, you started it, now you ask him to give it a rest! It
MS> Good point Jeff, except I wasn't trying to "bicker" with Doug. He simply
MS> stated that he had "lots more" CD's that were newer (i.e. contained newer
I can see that is one way of interpreting what you were saying.
It is hard when we are dealing with written communication to
understand exactly what a person is saying because we normally
rely on facial expressions, body language, tone of voice and
other things so we can properly interpret what is being said.
Neither of you guys could have been bickering possibly, you could
have been asking a genuine question and he could have been just
poking you in the ribs. I am sure you guys know each other and
may have some relationship built that I am not aware of. Anyway
enough said.
I didn't introduce myself but I met you at ONEBBSCON. I hope you
had a successful show. I know I had a wonderful time. I am
really looking forward to next years show.
...Jeff...
* WCE 1.10/2020 * ************ ßeta testers are CRAZY! ************
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* Origin: High Country East, Ramona, CA (619)-789-4391 (1:202/1308.0)
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3117
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 09/17/93 4:02p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Donnie!
15 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to All:
DR> Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale two months old with interface, docs, and
DR> interface card. Still in box. $175.00 I'll pay shipping.
I have a extra $150 I can spare, if you will take it? Can call 512-939-9822 or
leave reply
Pat
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* Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3118
To: SERGE STOCKWELL Date: 09/16/93 10:04a
Subj: AUCUN Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SS>c'est quand la rentrée pour toi.
SS>as tu fini ton stage?
SS>je peux peut etre passer chez toi un jour.
SS>as tu des nouvelles de l'ours ?
SS>moi je rentre le 13/09!!!
SS>bref donne moi des nouvelles ...
SS>si tu as le temps tu peux aller faire un tours sur un nouveau BBS ouvert de
SS>22h30 a 3h DEFCON V c'est pas mal le n° 64.59.61.20.
SS>aller a+++
SS> Serge.
This is an international echo, use English please.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3119
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/16/93 10:06a
Subj: SUPER PHOTOBANK Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Ismail....
Please tell your NC why you are going against the rules of this echo.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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■ SLMR 2.1a ■ Don't shoot! I'm only the Casio player!
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* Origin: General Store TBBS - OKC, OK (405)943-8638 (1:147/31)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3120
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/16/93 10:07a
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit on ads in this echo..
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3121
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/16/93 10:11a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NEW Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LN>Before you try to ride me out of dodge, Bob said I could mention that the
LN>new, "Busty Babes Vol II" will be ready for dealers
Now don't tell me you are going to start a trend and listen to me?
I still want tickets (front row seats) to the great pissing contest. If
a cooking contest is a cook off, is a pissing contest a piss-off????
hmmmmmmmmmmmmm confused myself.
BOB
:-)<--== wearing a tie today.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3122
To: CHARLES STRUSZ Date: 09/16/93 10:15a
Subj: CUSTOM CD-ROM PRODUCTION Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CS>HEY SYSOP! ----- ONE OF CD'S ! ----- HEY SYSOP!
Sorry, but there is a 10 line limit on ads in this echo..
Thanks
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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■ SLMR 2.1a ■ He is not only dull within, but causes dullness without.
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3123
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/15/93 9:10p
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris,
I'm with a CD Rom Sig in our local PC User Group here in Florida.
How can I get a copy of your complete Price List. If via your BBS please leave
number. If you can send me a copy
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
You do have some GREAT Prices...............
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* Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1)
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3124
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/15/93 9:12p
Subj: NEW CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris,
What date(s) are on the DR series of CD's. are they 1992-1993, mostly 1993
or are there a bunch of 1991 & 1992 files ???
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3125
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/15/93 9:17p
Subj: MAIL ORDER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jim,
Please send a catalog TO:
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
THANKS in Advance
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* Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1)
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3126
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/16/93 7:07p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hey Mike what are the specials this week for us NON BBS Sysops. I mean CD's
that the common man (or woman) would buy for personal use....
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* Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1)
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3127
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/16/93 7:27p
Subj: CD LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Neil,
I would like a CD Price List:
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3128
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/16/93 7:45p
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Well then - will you send a catalog out or a price list
TO:
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
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From: DENIS COLEMAN Number: 3129
To: KEN CHAN Date: 09/14/93 11:07p
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
> Hello
> Have anyone tried mail ordering cd-rom disks?
> What is the procedure and most of all, can you trust
> them?
If you give me your address i'll post you my mmail order listing.
Regards Denis
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From: DENIS COLEMAN Number: 3130
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 11:14p
Subj: CD's in Australia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi,
If any Australian Residents would like a free Mail order catalogue of cd's
please write to me at
56 Buchanan Rd
Berwick
Victoria 3806.
Regards
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From: TIM WENAS Number: 3131
To: ED TURNOCK Date: 09/15/93 4:52p
Subj: What Is "Mpc-compatible S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
From: ED TURNOCK Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: What is "MPC-compatible s Conf: (79) CDROM
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ET>Got a new "Power up" catalog today and it has some very good deals on CDROMS
ET>However, and you knew there had to be one, some of them are flagged as
ET>needing a "MPC-compatible system".
ET>Does anyone know what this is? I called the power up 800 number and the guy
ET>that answered didn't know either, although he promised to find out and said
ET>if I would call tomorrow he would know
Um.... I believe that an MPC compatible PC is a computer that meets the
"MICROSTUFFED" definition of a multimedia computer, ie: <off the top of
my head>:
-286 or higher, 1 mg ram, 30mg HD, 8bit sound card and some kind of
CD-rom drive.
I believe there is also a "level 2" standard, as the first standard was
rather low.
I don't own a CD-ROM drive -YET-, but I expect to possess one by January
94. BTW, anyone got any advice or comments on the Panasonic /Creative
Labs CD-ROM drives?
-T-
* OLX 2.1 TD * Nothing wrong with Amigas a sledgehammer couldn't fix.
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From: JON DERAGON Number: 3132
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/14/93 11:09p
Subj: Sound cards and cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi! Well, I think there are some other factors that you have to take into
consideration when you are buying a CD-ROM drive. First, I would highly
recommend a CADDY drive. I am sure there will be people out there that would
contradict that but I assure you, its definately an important part. The reason
why is the tray type leaves the disc exposed. Think about an accidental
scratch? There is a possibly faital block of data gone rendering the disc
useless. With a caddy drive, each time you buy a new CD-ROM disk, you also buy
a CADDY for it, which will add around $8-9 to the price but worth it. Think
about it, continual protection from fingers, dust, everything. And you never
have to remove them from the caddy ever again. Perfect. Thats why Im awaiting
the MD disc's in the audio world because they are built like a 1.44 disk but
smaller. But with the same capacity (compressed) as a normal Compact Disc.
The other consideration to take into mind, is dust protection while the disc
is inside. For thoughs two reasons and the features that you described before I
would recommend the NEC CDR-84-I drive. It has double dust doors, caddy drive,
multi-session, the original double spin drive, and its by the top company NEC.
Its also XA compliant which is important for future compatibility. The one with
the SB16asp is Panasonic, which is one of the only CD-ROMS the SB's SCSI
interface can handle. I have heard rave reviews for both the ProStudioSpectrum
and the SB16asp its really hard to say, I think compatibility wise for SB
software you woulf d go for just that. Although I have only had minor problems
with my PAS. There is a PAS kit you may be interested in most definately, which
includes a PAS card, the NEC CDR-84-I I was talking about, and some hot CD-ROMS
INCLUDING 7th GUEST, (DING DING!!!), so you may want to try that one, I know
you can get it through MicroArts Melbourne.
Hope that helps, if you have any other questions just ask me!
Jon Deragon
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* Origin: Rod Irving Electronics Sales & Support (03)562-7877 (3:632/368)
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 3133
To: POE LIM Date: 09/15/93 12:24a
Subj: Aus. 562B distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Poe Lim was heard mumbling to Marc Circosta about Aus. 562B distributor?<=-
PL> Hello Marc,
PL> On Sep 04 09:51 in a msg to All, Marc Circosta of 3:713/618 wrote:
> Just wondering if I could ask a about the availablity of the new
> Panasonic 562B drive that everybody seems to be tac...), or maybe
PL> Yes they are available, cir A$450 RRP last time I looked.
^^^^^
Hiya Poe,
whereabouts can I get this for this price? Eagerly awaiting reply.
Tom.
... C:\DOS\RUN C:\WINDOWS\CRAWL C:\OS2\FLY
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From: PATRICK MCCORMICK Number: 3134
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 09/18/93 7:54a
Subj: Hitachi Cd-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Terry,
I was wondering if you still had any of the used Hatachi 3500
drives and if so could you tell me some stuff about them. Like do you
have the drivers for OS/2 2.1 with them are they compatible with OS/2
and are you still selling them for the same price.
Thanks..
Patrick..
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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* Origin: DogHouse,Santa Rita,GU(671-565-6707)14.4/24hrs (1:345/3000.0)
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From: DAVID FATTAHIAN Number: 3135
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 8:48a
Subj: SEPTEMBER PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Adrian:
Could you shoot me one of your catalogs?
D. Fattahian
6329 N. London, Apt A
Kansas City, MO 64151
Thanks...
Dave
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* Origin: Sound Advice - 24 Nodes (816)436-4516 (1:280/333)
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From: HENRY NEWTON Number: 3136
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 8:15a
Subj: Dept of Defense Phone CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm looking for a CDROM that contains Dept of Defense phone numbers. I
have been told some company sells this but have been unable to locate
company. May be "who's who in DoD". Thanks in advance.
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 3137
To: TREVOR HANWELL Date: 09/17/93 7:22p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Trevor Hanwell to Pat Rickerson <=-
TH> $250.00!!!!!!!!! I don't think so. I have seen it in Toronto for
TH> $49.95 - $69.95. I haven't seen any of those CD's over $80.00 Don't
TH> know where you got it but you got ripped off.
They're selling BB I for that price in Canada???
Steve
... Billary...the first androgynous president!
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* Origin: CANDI LAND BBS, MONROE, MI (313)243-6689 (1:2380/120.0)
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From: JACKIE KING Number: 3138
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 1:22a
Subj: help! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
hi, i need help bad!
i need a cd-rom driver........
i have a toshiba cd-rom m3401b
i also have a adaptec scsi controller 1542
and a fujitsu 1.7 meg hard drive 2652 sa
and im running sstor.sys, and wat to keep running that.....
so what i need is a device driver for cd-rom that does not require that
i load aspi4dos.sys driver because i cant run both that and sstor.sys
at the same time, and i would rather use sstor.sys because aspi4dos.sys
doesnt work well with windows...... can you help?
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From: RICK NAY Number: 3139
To: JON DERAGON Date: 09/18/93 1:09p
Subj: Re: Sound cards and cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please you can play frisbee with cd..I've had a C.d player for my stereo for
years and have never had a c.d go bad..why incur the extra expense of buying
caddies..besides the texel drive is only good for 15,000 times..that means
after putting a caddies in appox. 15,000 times it can go bad..I know people who
have had tray loading cd since they came out.. i have a tray loading type on my
computer and i like it just fine..what ever floats your boat..
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From: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Number: 3140
To: DAVID SCHENK Date: 09/15/93 8:38p
Subj: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS>Why you dont use the Cache in the MSCDEX Driver ?
I didn't know that it had one. Looking at that again, I see that it
pre-set at 15. Thanks!
* KWQ/2 1.2b NR * Uh...Uh...Huh...Huh...Huh...Uh......Maybe Tipper was right
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3141
To: CRASH MAN Date: 09/16/93 8:38p
Subj: Sound card connection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-13-93 Crash Man wrote to Paul Swider...
CM>
CM> What if you already have a SCSI controller (in my case,
CM> Adaptek) and only one device connected to it (HDD)? Are you better
CM> off connecting the CD-Rom to the Sound Card (SB-Pro) or to the
CM> controller?
CM> Are there any dis/advantages in either case?
I guess in your example it would depend on the type of CDROM drive you
wanted and the drivers available to you. So if you prefer a certain drive,
for whatever reason, ie. price, performance, etc., just make sure it'll work
with what you have because it looks like you can go either route. Before you
buy, ask a lot of questions of the dealer to make sure it'll work with what
you have though. I haven't connected a CDROM drive to either device you
mentioned so can't give you a more straight forward answer than this. I have
one system in the house that is connected directly to the sound card and
another has a sound card and a SCSI card driving the CDROM. Both work well.
Other than taking up an extra slot in one system I don't see any real dis/
advantages in either case. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Standards are wonderful. So many to choose from!"
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From: RJ KULMAN Number: 3142
To: BRUCE CLAUNCH Date: 09/14/93 8:01p
Subj: NEC cd-37 lockup Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BC>Now thats something I did not think of, Thanks
BC>Bruce
keep this in MIND... TERMINATION MUST be a BOTH ENDS. You may also have
to remove a jumper on your card, for active termination...some cards require
this in addition to standard termination.
good luck
* KingQWK 1.05 * "640K ought to be enough for anybody." - Bill Gate
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From: GABRIEL KLYBER Number: 3143
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 5:25p
Subj: Sb16&cd-rom Refer: NONE
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I have a SB16 and would like to hook a CD-ROM up to it. I know it only works
with Mitsumi/Panasonic. I've heard of a new Mitsumi double-spin CD-ROM. Has
anyone else heard or seen this? I was wondering what the price was. Any info
would be appreciated. Thanks.
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From: STEVE MANN Number: 3144
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/16/93 4:27p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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> Soundblaster Pro 16
> Panasonic <I think> CD-ROM drive, 300kb/s, multi-speed double
> thing Bookshelf, Sherlock holmes, voice recognition softs and
> about 3 other CDs all for about $799 Aust.
> Has anyone had experience with the Creative Labs multimedia
> bundle, esp. with the CD drive, and what are your opinions?
> ! Origin: Empire BBS +61(3)591-0020 (4 lines) (3:635/550)
Tim, I have been looking into 16bit sound/ double speed CD drives for several
weeks now. After initially favouring the PAS16 + SCSI CD combination I decided,
three days ago, to go for the SB kit.
There is a very good review in PC Magazine (May or Jun 93 I think, definitely
after April) on sound boards which rated the PAS slightly ahead of the SB. But
on balance when considering the included software, the cost, the ease of
installation and software compatibility, the SB comes out well in front in my
opinion.
My question to you is where did you find the price of $799 for this kit. I have
checked out all over Sydney and have found prices ranging from $850 to $1300. I
would appreciate it if you could netmail me with any of the details (Shop,
address, phone, prices etc.).
Hope this is helpful.
Cheers, Steve
(3:711/440)
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From: STEVE MANN Number: 3145
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 5:11p
Subj: Where to buy SB16/MM upgrade kit Refer: NONE
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I have been shopping around (Sydney) for several weeks now for a MM Upgrade
kit. A week ago I decided to buy the SB16 / double spin drive kit. Since then
I have had a difficult time comparing the offerings of Sydney's retail outlets.
The kits I have seen seem to vary so much in price and content that it is
difficult to compare one shop with another. I have found similar kits to vary
in price by $500 from one shop to another.
Can anyone recommend a particular SB kit and where to buy it for a reasonable
price.
Note: In my previous message I am replying to Tim Wenas who writes from
Melbourne that a similar kit can be bought for $799. This sounds good to me.
Thanks,
Steve.
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From: CHRISTOPHER BURKE Number: 3146
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/08/93 9:36p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
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In a message on <Sep0821:36, Dave Reed (1:344/79) writes:
TS> If you answer yes to any one question, please depoliticise
TS> your taglines Thanking you from downunder - please don't ask
TS> us Aussies to tell you about OUR politics:)
DR> It's JUST a tagline! Besides, when some socialist a**hole can
DR> get elected with 40-some% of the popular vote, against the will
DR> of the majority of our citizens, there's going to be a LOT of
DR> angry people! At least allow them to vent a little steam in a
DR> harmless tagline.
You obviously missed our famous Joh premier of Qld for a long time (was it 10
years or more) til 1988. He was being elected on 25% or less of the popular
vote.
DR> Thanks for your understanding. We Americans are in the middle of
DR> a crisis, here.
We did our complaining in the correct forum. You don't hear us complaining
about Paul Keating putting our petrol up by 10cents a ..... OOPS!!
See you around...
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From: DAVID POMEROY Number: 3147
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 6:28p
Subj: cd-roms Refer: NONE
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Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or possibly
Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to set one up, as it is
badly needed for us down under users. If you think if would be a good idea,
and you'd be interested in joining at a later stage, leave me a message. I'd
like to hear from you. Also, if you can think of things you'd like to see
covered and a fair joining fee (ie: AUS $20, NZ $30 etc), I'd appreciate your
views. If we can get a group underway, perhaps it would put us in a good
bargaining position with CD-ROM suppliers - thus lowering the price for
everyone. EMAIL me with your ideas!!!!
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From: PHILIP MARTELLI Number: 3148
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/17/93 9:23a
Subj: Re: CDROM User's Group Refer: NONE
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1 - Yes, Count me in
2 - Yes, you'll get a good deal from the suppliers :-)
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From: AUSTEN EVANS Number: 3149
To: GAETANO CALIA Date: 09/14/93 9:54a
Subj: CR-562 PROBS Refer: NONE
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Did you find the problem with Windows and the Video clips locking up ???
If so, PLEASE let me know the fix !!!
Ta,
Austen.
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From: GREG MCDONELL Number: 3150
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 12:34p
Subj: Encarta Sound Refer: NONE
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I've had an error message on Microsoft Encarta which struck me
as curious, perhaps someone can help.
When trying to run any of the sound clips, it would give me
a message "No wave driver loaded", or something like that.
I'm using a SB16, with MIDI and Wave drivers loaded under Win3.1.
Is this product trying to tell me I have to go out and get an ASP
or a wavetable daughterboard on my SB16, just to get _any_ sound??
Thanks in advance, Greg
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From: SEAN TUDOR Number: 3151
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/17/93 7:47a
Subj: Re: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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-=> and Tim Wenas was heard mumbling to All <=-
Hi Tim,
TW> Has anyone had experience with the Creative Labs multimedia bundle,
TW> esp. with the CD drive, and what are your opinions? Can you recommend
TW> any other multimedia kits? I've seen a double PAS-16, which is roughly
TW> the equivalent <i think> but costs about $1299 Aust.
I'm using a Sound Blaster 16 with a Panasonic CR-562-B double speed drive.
I've now been using the new drive for about three weeks and have had no
problems with it at all. It's very fast and the motorised tray makes it
so easy to load/unload CD-ROM's.
Cya,
Sean.
... Jurassic Sparcs - the first computers with dinosaur power ...
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From: RICHARD ROBB Number: 3152
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/18/93 12:00a
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Thanks for publishing the rules of the echo, Bob. You're doing a good
job.
However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
true that children read the echo, that is a reason for banning *discussion* of
adult topics. But that is hardly a reason for banning
advertising of XXX CD disks. After all, Penthouse, Playboy, etc., are
all advertised for sale in all sorts of public venues that children
frequent. They simply can't buy them. The same rule should hold here.
In my opinion, your advertisers' freedom to seek customers, and your
readers' freedom to find available CD's, has been compromised for a
flimsy reason. (Many BBS's, including those in my area, do not carry
a CDROMSALES echo.) I hope you will allow the simple advertising of
adult titles and prices, while continuing to ban discussion of adult
topics or the material on those disks. That would be fair, and would
be consistent with society's overall acceptance of the mention of
adult titles on magazines, theater marquees, etc.
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 3153
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 1:37p
Subj: Panasonic CR523b Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
I recently buyed the abovementioned drive, and'll like to know some stuff on
it :
1) Whatsa biggest CD it supports?
2) Is it photo-CD compatible
3) Multi-session
4) Is it a wise choice to leave my CD's in caddies and have a seperate caddie
for each disk, or should I interchange them? (its a REAL bother to get them out
every time :-(()
5) Will any caddie fit on the drive?
6) Anything else you think I should know? ;-)
Another thing : When watching video in windows it sometimes happens that
garbage comes up inbetween the pic, and then disappears again gradually
(allmost as if it reads incorrectly). Is this due to slow video cards (Tseng
ET4000 (BOCA) card with 1MB ram and no HiColour :-(()
Hope ya can help...
CU
Stean
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From: STEAN SNYMAN Number: 3154
To: JOHN KORTINK Date: 09/16/93 1:55p
Subj: DOTT & Sound Galaxy NX Pro Refer: NONE
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Hello John!
Sunday September 12 1993, John Kortink writes to All:
JK> Anyone know the solution ? Or is DOTT whacked ? Anyone has any
experiences
JK> with this sound card, good or bad ?
I run a Panasonic CR523b CD on a Sound Galaxy NX PRO card direct from it's
interface.. I didn't try DOTT, but if the 7th g works then dott must be
whaked. All I know is that I like me SGNXPRO card, and its GREAT! Cheap and
better on some feilds than the SBPRO (like built in DAC on LPT), but the only
prob with the card is that on some stereo apps the speakers swaps about every
half second to 1 second, which can be quite annoying.. But most apps works
fine!
CU
Stean
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From: DON BOSMAN Number: 3155
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/15/93 2:18p
Subj: Oxford English Dictionar Refer: NONE
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JL>GS>Has anyone seen the Oxford English Dictionary CD-ROM at a decent price?
JL> >List price is $895.00. I'd like to see it "somewhat" lower.
JL>Is this the same thing as the Oxford English Reference Library? I may
JL>be able to get it for you for somewhere around $100.
No, drat.
The OED on CD is the whole thing. The original thing that is. One
review said the search engine wasn't something the average user could
navigate very well, but for the professional word freak it will allow
searching the meanings and usages throughout the dictionary.
Wouldn't it be a trip to hook your spell checker into the OED? It might
take an hour to do a letter, but it would be meaningful. ;-)
___
X OLX 2.2 X All hope abandon, ye who enter messages here.
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3156
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/18/93 6:48a
Subj: MITSUMI OS/2 DRIVER Refer: NONE
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Mine is not a beta
I cannot send it thru BBS ( it would be illegal).
Florida driver has an updated version, which has audio also.
Tnx.
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From: DUANE MERRY Number: 3157
To: PETER SAMULEVICH Date: 09/17/93 7:22p
Subj: Hitachi Drivers for OS/2 Refer: NONE
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TB> Peter Samulevich wrote in a message to All:
PS> Does anyone have the drivers for the Hitachi 1700S? I
PS> would be more than happy to call your board and d/l
PS> them, or FREQ them from you. As it stands right now, I
PS> have to use a VDM to use the CD-ROM and there's a lot of
PS> software that I really cannot use because of this. HELP!!!
How do you like the Hitachi CD-ROM drive? I just received one. I
haven't hooked it up yet. The vendor that I bought it from said it
came with everything I needed, but there was no SCSI card. So I
have to get one. Oh, well.
... A desk is a garbage can with drawers...
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From: BERT BURLAND Number: 3158
To: WARREN DANIO Date: 09/16/93 4:21p
Subj: HAM CD REVIEW Refer: NONE
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Hello Warren!
Tuesday September 14 1993 11:55, Warren Danio wrote to All:
WD> I just got HAMWARE 1993 V1.0 from Mike Shannon at Starvector
WD> Software and believe me if I had known what was on this disk
WD> I would not have accepted it..
WD> to 1993 with most files prior to 1993.
WD> Incidently this Disc contains less than 180 Megs of files
WD> In closing I would not reccomend this disc to anybody
WD> interested in ham radio.. This Disc is in the same catigory
WD> as Chestnuts Ham radio 3.0, and that is the BEST thing I can
WD> say about this collection of of useless words. Save your money..
WD> THIS DISC IS NOT WORTH $10. MUCH LESS THE $28. THAT IT COST
WD> Nobody asked, This is My OPINION.
WD> 73s de Warren K1BVZ/4
Never the less, thank's for expressing it! I too bought the Chestnut Ham Radio
and was amazed at the shear lack of concern for duplications, outdated and
worthless material. Monitoring Times Magazine gave a glowing review of this
disc and I now wonder about Monitoring Times because the disc is just plain
trash!
Thanks for telling it like it is Warren and please do continue to tell it like
it is. I can save some bucks for quality disc like the Pier1,2 and Nightowl's
ect. Drop by my bbs some time.
Bert aka N5TOA
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From: BERT BURLAND Number: 3159
To: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Date: 09/16/93 4:38p
Subj: Mitsumi CD Rom Drive Refer: NONE
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Hello William!
Wednesday September 15 1993 02:46, William T. Mcclain wrote to All:
WTM> A friend of mine runs a BBS and needs to know if the Mitsumi CD ROM
WTM> drive (I think the model is LU005) will access the full 680 MB of data
Mine wont! If I do not access the last five directories of a Pier1 disc the
Mitsumi will work.
WTM> from a CD ROM disk. Would appreciate any information on this.
Using the file browser "List" on the Mitsumi drive and the disc "Pier1" loaded
I can access the first directory just fine and so on but if I jump to one of
the last few directories List will just hang for like two minutes and DOS will
then return "Drive not ready Abort Retry Fail". If I start at directory 1 and
access it then go to directory 2 access it then 3 and 4 and so on continue to
the last directory I can then read the last directories but it will always hang
when jumping from widely spaced directories. The Mitsumi works just fine on
smaller disc around 450 Megs but goes out to lunch on the large ones. Look
around for a better drive if Your going to be accessing big disc and more so
for a BBS with big old bbs ready shareware disc loaded.
The Dealers will tell You otherwise because they are selling them right and
left. I run a BBS and have gone through it Bubba.
WTM> ... Thanks a lot. Mac in Tampa, FL
Your Welcome!
Bert: telling it like it is from the Windy Plains of Texas.
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3160
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/18/93 1:31a
Subj: Re: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
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>> Boris Osadciw wrote in a message to Chris Wood:
BO>> Already done Chris !! Should be Online sometime this week,
BO>> but it will be and ORDER LINE ONLY and we will not give out
BO>> product support nor offer any price comparisions. It will
BO>> strickly be so our friends in Canada will be able to place
BO>> an order without any international long distance costs.
>> Make sure you post that handy dandy # for all of us Canucks
>> when it gets into place.
Chris, our toll free number for Canada is the same as it is for the
US. It's 800-243-0517 and I'am told it's in place already.
Since we're leaving to go up there this week, I'll give it a call from
there and make sure it works...grin -:)
Chat with you soon.....
BTW: As I stated, this is an ORDER LINE ONLY and any inquires or price
shopping will not be allowed. If you know what you want, call the number,
if you don't, please call our normal number at 216-225-3263 anytime
and we'll be happy to assist anyone that way.
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress!...... The Far East pirate's choice!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3161
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 1:31a
Subj: PANASONIC CDROM Refer: NONE
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)))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
Multi-Spin / SB Compatiable / with Interface
Complete Ready To Run - Price - $249.00
FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
500+ CDROM Tiltes To Select From
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517
TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Silver Xpress....... Not Just Another Off-Line Mail System <tm>!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3162
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 1:31a
Subj: SPECIAL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
C D R O M B L O W O U T S P E C I A L S
1993 Guiness World Book - $29. Mario Is Missing - $20.
Mayo Clinic - $20. San Diego Zoo The Animals! - $20.
MicroSoft Works/BookShelf - $80. Sports Best - $15.
Shareware Online #2 - $35. Shareware Studio #3 - $19.
Software Vault Gold - $25. Night Owl Graphics - $25.
FREE C.C.I T-SHIRT with $100. order or more !!!
SPECIAL BUNDLE - Mario Is Missing, Mavis Beacons Teaches Typing,
Chessmaster 3000 & US/World Atlas - Price - $50.
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 Tec/Ques 216-225-3263 Fax 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
... Strike it RICH, with Silver Xpress!
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3163
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/17/93 2:46p
Subj: Re: CD SALES Refer: NONE
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BJ>JL> Here is the breakdown of my gross sales year-to-date:
BJ>JL> Shareware 48.2%
BJ>JL> Adult 38.5% (BBS & End User)
BJ>JL> General 11.3%
BJ>JL> Caddies & 2%
>JL> Jewel Cases
BJ>Can you break down this data by sysop/end-user?
Sorry, Bob. I have no idea whether the buyers of the adult titles were
sysops or not. All I track is what titles sold.
Jim...
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From: RICK NAY Number: 3164
To: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Date: 09/17/93 10:22p
Subj: Re: Sony CDU-31A Refer: NONE
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They made the drive so I would hope they now what there talking about..its not
the fastest drive but its not also the slowest..
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3165
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 11:55p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WING COMMANDER & ULTIMA VI $15.53
WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MOVING FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VISUAL FANTASIES $19.85 (BBS READY)
VOLCANO $32.78 (BBS READY)
SOUTHERN BEAUTIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
STAREWARE $31.91 (BBS READY)
STORM I,II,III $22.38 (EACH!) BBS READY
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $48.00 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
SEXXCAPADES-THE MOVIE $44.20 (FULL MOTION VIDEO)
MY PRIVATE COLLECTION $32.78 (BBS READY)
DEEP THROAT $42.76 FULL MOTION VIDEO
MAN POWER $41.00 BBS READY
WE ACCEPT VISA, MC, AX & DISCOVER. CHECK OR M.O. (ADD 3% FOR CREDIT CARDS
$4.00 S&H FOR ORDERS OF 1-5..$1.00 PER EACH ADDITIONAL DISC.
SHORELINE CD-ROM PHONE: (310) 652-2858
1206 S. HOLT AVE. #1
LOS ANGELES, CA 90035 FAX: (310) 652-2608
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From: MARK ROEDEL Number: 3166
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/17/93 4:57p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
->
-> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave yo
-> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
->
-> Thank you
-> Adrian Salas
you can send one of those to
mark roedel
po box 7001 cpo 953
longview, tx 75607-7001
thanx. i'll be lookin' forward to it.
-=( mark )=-
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 3167
To: KEVIN WILLIAMS Date: 09/17/93 6:59p
Subj: Re: Pioneer DRM 600 problem Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks. Bad card... Oh well, you never know. New one on its way.
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From: WAYNE POWELL Number: 3168
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 09/17/93 8:11p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-= Mark Womack said to All about SPACE QUEST 4 on 09-12-93: =-
MW>Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
MW>the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
MW>transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
MW>I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
Mark,
Select the Hand Icon. Click immediately on the landing gear after
Roger walks on the screen. You may have to do this a couple of times until
you hit the right spot.
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From: MICHAEL BROWN Number: 3169
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/18/93 1:25a
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yes, Prophone CD 1993, Questions? How complete is the
disk? Is it accurate? How did they load the information,
scanning? Also business numbers on the same disk, how
can you search, SIC code?
thanks Mike
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From: TYRONE THOMASON Number: 3170
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/18/93 12:28p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW> Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists and moral
DW>do-gooders have once again used their collective might to knuckle under
DW>another "public forum". Or should I say, "censored public forum" now?
Pardon me for butting in but, it seems that the very thing that you are
accusing others of doing, you are doing yourself. In defense of the
moderator, adult material was banned to protect Sysops from setting them
up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist or
do-gooders as you claim.
DW> <Dripping with acidic sarcasm> Of course, it's in the name of all
DW>what's good and just that they "protect us from ourselves". We all
DW>wouldn't want to end up in hell, now do we? Anyway, don't you know
DW>that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
DW>turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
Is the moderator protecting someone from themselves? Yes, but posting
in another echo is a whole heck of a lot easier on your conscience than
having someones computer confiscated Federal and/or State charges levied
against someone when you know that you were indirectly responsible. A
bit of an inconvience, yes but, responsibilty is more admirable. In
other words, would say something to a person you saw about to step off a
curb into an on-coming car or stand there and shake you head after the
accident?
The information I gave you for the banning of adult discussions was
gleaned from messages in the echo.
Ty.
DW>>:)
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 3171
To: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Date: 09/16/93 2:01a
Subj: Mitsumi CD Rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep1602:01, William T. Mcclain of 1:377/49 writes:
WTM> A friend of mine runs a BBS and needs to know if the Mitsumi CD
WTM> ROM drive (I think the model is LU005) will access the full
WTM> 680 MB of data from a CD ROM disk. Would appreciate any
WTM> information on this.
No problem for the LU005, I currently have two online and they work
flawlessly. I also run a Pioneer DRM-604X 6 disk changer.
<*=- Stephen -=*>
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From: TODD OSTRER Number: 3172
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 1:53a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello: Our new Catalog. WE Ship World Wide Express Mail..
DEALER CD-ROMs 09-14-93
** MINIMUM ORDER IS 5 CD-ROMs (can mix). (Good Volume Discounts) **
Visa, MC, AmEx, Discover,
Money Order.
Todd Ostrer
2473 S.E. 135th
Portland, Or. 97233
(503)257-7255 24 hrs / 7 days
(503)257-7264 (BBS) 14.4v32
ADULT
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Adult Palate (PC or Mac)........... 28 Adult Reference Library..........
After Dark Trilogy................. 40 All Beauties.....................
Animation Fantasies Vol 1 or 2..... 28 Asian Ladies.....................
Busty Babes........................ 29 Deep Throat......................
Digital Dancing.................... 49 Digital Dreams...................
Dirty Talk......................... 45 Ecstasy Hot Pics.................
Erotic Encounters.................. 29 Erotic Encounters 2..............
FAO (3 disk set)................... 65 Foxes............................
Gay World 1........................ 30 Gay World 2......................
GBL (gay, bi-sexual, lesbian)...... 30 Giffy Gold.......................
Glamour Girls 1943................. 40 Hidden Obsessions................
Hot Hunks..(gay)................... 30 House of Sleeping Beauties (movie
Island Girls....................... 24 Lovely Ladies II.................
Manpower (gay)..................... 30 Moving Fantasies (194 movies)....
My First Time (2 CDs).............. 43 My Private Collection 1 or 2.....
Mystique of the Orient............. 43 Night Watch Interactive..........
Nix Pix Hot Pix 1.................. 55 Nix Pix Hot Pix 2, 3, 4 or 5.....
PC Pix 1, 2 or 3................... 28 Physical Therapy (XXX-Extreme)...
Pixure ROM 1, 2 or 3............... 30 Pixure ROM Triple Exposure (3 CDs
Pork-Ware 1........................ 28 Pork-Ware 2......................
Private Pictures................... 29 RimFire Pacific..................
Seedy Rom 1 thru 6 (each).......... 29 Seedy Rom 6 pack.................
Seedy Rom 7th Heaven............... 30 Seedy Rom Movie Disk #1..........
Sexxcapades, The Movie............. 47 Smutware.........................
So Much Stareware.................. 28 Southern Beauties................
Storm 1............................ 25 Storm 1, 2 & 3...................
Storm 2............................ 25 Storm 3..........................
Swimware 1993...................... 29 Swimware & More..................
Visual Fantasies................... 28 Volcano..........................
Wicked............................. 55 Women of Venus (bathing suits)...
ART & GRAPHICS
Clip Art Galore.................... 30
Clip Art Heaven.................... 30
DTP Dream Disk (clip art,fonts,book 50
Gifs Galore........................ 25
Just Fonts v1...................... 26
Library of Art: Europe, America.... 65
Mother Earth.II.................... 33
Publish It Ver. 2.................. 27
Publisher's Paradise............... 33
So Much Screenware................. 33
Too Many Fonts..................... 22
Wild Places (with sound)........... 36
World View (with sound)........... 36
BUSINESS
Britannica Select Software......... 25
Business Master.................... 26
Pro Phone '92 (3 CDs).............. 50
Pro Phone '93 (7 CDs)..............120
Pro Phone Business '93............. 43
MISCELLANEOUS
Caddies............................ 06
REFERENCE
Automap & US Atlas................. 30
Baron's Profiles of Colleges....... 30
Bibles & Religion.................. 22
Bookshelf for Windows.............. 60
CIA World Tour..................... 30
Compton's Interactive Encyclopedia.130
Compton's Multimedia Encyclopedia.. 60
Desert Storm, War in the Gulf...... 30
Dictionaries & Languages........... 18
Family Doctor...................... 33
Global Explorer.................... 89
Grolier's Encyclop MPC Windows..... 49
Grolier's Encyclop ver 5 multimedia 47
Guiness Multimedia Disk of Records. 54 (pc or Mac)
Languages of the World............. 47
Magazine Rack...................... 30
Mayo Clinic MPC.................... 40
National Parks..................... 30
Reference Library.................. 30
Sophisticated Santa Fe.............130
Street Atlas USA................... 89
Time Table of Hist,Science,Innov... 30
Time Table of Business, Politics... 33
Total baseball:Multimedia Encycl... 33
US & World Atlas................... 26
US & World Atlas 3 Multimedia...... 30
US & World Atlas MPC Windows....... 33
US Atlas........................... 28
US History......................... 30
World Atlas........................ 28
SHAREWARE
American Premiere Shareware '93.... 29
CICA Windows Shareware (Walnut).... 23
Essential Home & Business Collectio 25
Games 1993......................... 25
Gigabyte Gold...................... 32
Hobbes OS/2 by Walnut Creek........ 23
Libris Britannica by Walnut Creek.. 50
Lion's Share....................... 30
Mega CD-ROM........................ 32
Monster Disk 2 CD set.............. 46
Multimedia All American Series..... 33
Night Owl 8........................ 28
Night Owl 9........................ 30
Nite Owl Business Applications..... 26
PC Game Room....................... 24
PC Sig Game Disk................... 25
PC Sig Ver 12...................... 29
Pier 2............................. 30
Shareware 1993..................... 26
Shareware Explosion................ 30
Shareware Extravaganza (4 cds)..... 56
Shareware Galore................... 28
Shareware Games.................... 30
Shareware Gold 3 for Windows....... 40
Shareware Overload................. 20
Shareware Studio 1, 2...........18, 20
Shareware Tiger.................... 30
So Much Shareware 2................ 32
Software Vault..................... 30
Top 2000+.......................... 25
Up All Night....................... 29
VGA Spectrum 1..................... 23
VGA Spectrum 2, multimedia......... 30
Windoware.......................... 20
Windows 1993....................... 27
Windows Master..................... 27
Wizardware's wiz-pak............... 17
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From: TODD OSTRER Number: 3173
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 1:53a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
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■ TNet 3.90 ≈ ROSE CITY BBS(Home of Nasty Habits)503.257.7264
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From: ANTON SWART Number: 3174
To: BORIIS OSADCIW Date: 09/14/93 9:11p
Subj: Thanx Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
THanx i got KQ6 2dya
pleasure doing bizzness!
cheers
l8ta
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From: ERIC STAM Number: 3175
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/09/93 3:51p
Subj: SALE CD-ROM'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
> FOR A COMPLETE
> CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS
> OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
I would like to have a complete list too.
I haven't got a cd rom yet, but I am seriously thinking about buying one.
Could you send the list to
Eric Stam
W. Kalfstr. 17
7545 AL Enschede
The Netherlands
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From: MICHAEL BUENTER Number: 3176
To: ALL Date: 09/13/93 5:34p
Subj: Inexpensive SCSI CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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I'm looking for an inexpensive SCSI CD-ROM drive for my bbs. It should work
with OS/2 2.1.
Please answer via FidoNet 2:301/602, CI$ 100022,2140 or FAX +41-41-538627.
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 3177
To: STEVE DAGGETT Date: 09/08/93 10:10p
Subj: Sound Blaster wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Wanted - sound Blaster or SB Pro. Thanks!
Live or Alive. Why not a GUS card?.
Best regards. Alex.
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 3178
To: ENRIQUE BORRERO Date: 09/11/93 11:16p
Subj: Discos Refer: NONE
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> Hola, aquí en Bilbo, y el resto de España tambien, se
> pasa todo tipo de software a CD, a precios asequibles.
Hola Enrique.
Me llamo Alejandro, te escribo desde Madrid.
Estoy interesado en saber cuanto me costaria pasar
Soft (600 Mb aprox) a CD.
Saludotes.
Alex.
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From: CHRIS FLYNN Number: 3179
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 09/09/93 10:33p
Subj: Shareware Explorer - 4 pa Refer: NONE
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LW> New Frontiers CD-ROMS, of New Hartford, CT. announces the release
LW> of their new "Shareware Explorer" 4 disc Shareware Collection on
Lee, do you wield a nerf bat in another existence? <g>
... Must Go - Got to rub some lard on the cat's boil !!
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From: NICHOLAS GOLDWYN Number: 3180
To: CRAIG JACKSON Date: 09/10/93 1:17p
Subj: MITSUMI DRIVES?? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Craig Jackson to Nicholas Goldwyn <=-
NG>included Photo Access software.
CJ> What are the specs for your PhotoCD capable Mitsumi drive? I
CJ> recently obtained a Mitsumi drive and wanted to insure PhotoCD
CJ> capability (neither the manual, nor the dealer, would say).
Which specs do you want? The model no is LU005S - as far as I know,
all current models support multi-session Photo-CD.
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From: PHIL HORNBY Number: 3181
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 09/12/93 4:07p
Subj: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Paddy,
On Thursday September 09 1993, Paddy Drury wrote to Luis Carvajal:
PD> This is how the system works in the UK
ah-ha...so _you're_ the UK's other PhotoCD user :-)
PD> take 35mm negative film to 'BOOTS the Chemists' ( these are a high
Presumably Boots are still sending 'em off to Kodak though?
PD> the files have a *.pcd name and appear just as any other dir listing
PD> on a cd. So using kodak access software or even coral read the files
Do you have a PhotoCD player in addition to a CDROM drive? The reason I ask, is
that my PCD player (CDF200) is not using the whole raster, which is especially
annoying on portrait format shots. I've not yet managed to get any sense out of
Philips UK, but after a week of 'phoning I've at last got the name of someone,
who might know someone, who knows if this is correct behaviour :-))
PS, Are you Netmail-able? - I wouldn't want to clutter up the Busty Babes echo
with technical mumbo-jumbo ;-)
Phil.
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From: RAMOND DE.VREDE Number: 3182
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/13/93 10:45a
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello...
Please Send Me Your CD-ROM catalog...
Peaceful Computing Foundation Europe
Ramond de Vrede
P.O. Box 5119
NL-6202 WG Maastricht
Europe - The Netherlands
Thanks...
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From: RICK LOOPER Number: 3183
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 12:08p
Subj: COMPRO Multimedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Is anyone familiar with a company called COMPRO Multimedia? Any
information, particularly an address and/or phone number for this
company would be greatly appreciated.
... RICK LOOPER, (704) 256-8971, HICKORY, NC, WILDCAT 3.60S HOST
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From: PETE CRESSWELL Number: 3184
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/15/93 8:39p
Subj: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> The WPS, although FAR better than Windows, also stinks to high
LR> heaven. My best advice to the OS/2 user is to dump the WPS, as well.
Ever tried a MacIntosh?
... Food-For-Thought Paoli, PA 215/251-9387
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3185
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/15/93 8:52a
Subj: Super Series Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
IA >Ask for Super Series from your nearest dealer or call us;
IA >Super ClipArt
>Super Fonts
>Super Games for Windows Vol. I
>Super Games for Windows Vol. II
>Super_CD Shareware Library I
>Super_CD Shareware Library II
>Super_CD Shareware Library III (coming soon)
>Super Programmer (will be ready 19 Sept. 93)
>PGG I (adults only)
>GroupWare
>4826 Tacoma Mall Blvd
>Tacoma, WA 98409
>1-206-472-1400
>1-206-473-1634 FAX
IA >--- DB 1.53/002199
Hi! Ismail
Please, as soon as possible send me the prices of the following CD'S
Super Games for Windows Vol. II
Super_CD Shareware Library III (coming soon)
Super Programmer (will be ready 19 Sept. 93)
Thanks
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From: HINGE SYAXX Number: 3186
To: JIMM CRAWFORD Date: 09/15/93 10:24p
Subj: CD-ROMs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC> What is it that you like or dis-like about them?
JC> We sell version 12 for under $20.00.
That is the best price I've ever seen. WOW!!! The usual comments I get about
PC-SIG 12 is just that it has so much, albeit the quality is not as good as it
COULD be, it's enough to please most users, and the sysops like having large
file areas to show off. It's really nutty to hear the reasons why people buy
things, but give 'em what they want, eh?
At less that $20, I may need to look at a purchase. Leave some info, por
favor.
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From: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Number: 3187
To: RICK NAY Date: 09/15/93 5:18p
Subj: Re: Sony CDU-31A Refer: NONE
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RN>I have it and it varies from magazine to magazine..some say 490ms, others
say
RN>550 ms..it does 150kb/ps sustained..2.1 m/bytes per second burst rate..sony
has
RN>another new sony type(34)pin dual speed coming out..it has a 370 ms access
RN>time, 300kbps sustained, 4 m/bytes burst rate..frankly i think that ms
rating
RN>is such a hype..big woo..550 millionth of a second..the average access for
the
RN>cdu31a is .50 sec..1/2 a second..i love the drive..hope i was some help..
You are right about CDU-31A. According to SONY's spec.:
Data Transfer Rate:
Sustained Rate: 150Kbytes/sec
Burst Rate: 21.Mbytes/sec
Access Time:
Full Stroke: 0.95sec (950ms)
Average: 0.49sec (490ms)
Steven
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 3188
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/15/93 10:42p
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I want the PROPHONE 1993 do you have a fax number to order one copy?
-> Do you accept credit card?
->
-> Send me a catalog of your products to
Hi Roberto!
I'm sorry, but we sold the last of those to a gentleman over in
Florida last week! We can get more in, but not at that special price. We
DO accept VISA and MASTERCARD and we'll DEFINITELY send you our catalog.
Thanks a lot for asking!
.\\ichellea
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 3189
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:02p
Subj: SHAREWARE EXPLORER Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
To everyone looking for shareware CD-ROMs:
You NEED to consider this new release. Its an excellent 4 disc
set (3 DOS shareware and 1 Windows) covering up to August of this year.
Its very well laid out, no duplication, great file selection... looks
like a lot of care went into this set! One of our customers said "I'm
throwing away my Night Owls. I'll put these four in my 6-CD changer,
and a couple of specialty CDs, and my users will go crazy!" when he got
it. Give us a call about getting a copy at 306-789-4654!
.\\ichellea
P.S. Don't forget BB2 will be here soon!
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From: VINCENT FERNANDEZ Number: 3190
To: SERGE STOCKWELL Date: 09/11/93 5:51p
Subj: réponse Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
salut ..
bin moi rentré 2ème année ...
moi apprendre toi etre ds la merde
sinon moi avoir CD ROM dble vitesse PAnasonic CDR 663
avec double latence et systeme de retnsion à viseur opto-mécanique
à recherche automatique par satellite géostationnaire double offset
avoir aussi acquis carte son ( idem raza , je l'ai vu )
moi bourré de fric non ?
-eh bien non, moi avoir touché prime Digital stage de m....
-> staτe de merde = prime de merde, mais suffisant pour acheter
une carte son...
bref sinon tu passes qd tu veux, un WE, ou un jeudi ou vendredi Ap Midi
( on fout rien n'est ce pas...)
a+
euh... vdε epson lx800 : 500frs...
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3191
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/12/93 10:07p
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> This makes no sense at all. Caddies are a lot more CONVENIENT than
LR>non-caddy units. With a caddyless CD, one must get the old case, unload the
LR>CD, put it in the case, get the new CD, remove it from its case, put it in t
LR>carrier, and close the door, all the while exposing the CDs to dust, dirt,
LR>fingerprints, scratches, and the odd drop on the floor. With caddies, one
LR>simply removes the old caddy and pops in the new one. Less muss, less fuss,
LR>and no potential damage to the CD.
If that were true, people would be using caddies for their audio drives,
too. Yet (except for in cars where there really WOULD be a possible
problem), I see precious few audio CD drives which would have people
fool with caddies. Plus, your scenario assumes that people have a caddy
for each and every disc they buy... If they don't, then the scenario is
just like you described above EXCEPT it includes removing the old disc
from its caddy before you put it away into its jewelbox, and putting the
new disc into that same caddy before you can slide it into the drive.
Plus, something you fail to mention is the fact that the CD-ROM
jewelboxes usually have a nice label on the spine, often including
graphics or colors which help make it easy and fast to pull out the
exact disc you're looking for from a shelf full of CDs. Caddies
generally don't, which makes it harder to fumble around and find the
right one.
LR> Once again, the caddy is MUCH more convenient, as well as more durab
LR>plus one can change an entire SUITE of software at once. The only drawback
^^^
"can", or "has to"? :-((( And if you want to only change two or
three discs out of the six? How convenient is it then? :-(((
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3192
To: POE LIM Date: 09/12/93 10:09p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PL>As to the cost, I calculate it as a percentage of the cost of the ROMs; most
PL>the time they come to less than 10% of the cost, which is acceptable for the
PL>protection thus gained.
You're either only buying EXPENSIVE CD-ROMs, or getting your caddies
REAL cheap. Most of my shareware CD-ROMs I've paid $10-35 for. Where
do you buy caddies for even (at the high end of that figure) $3.50?
About the cheapest price I've seen around here is $5 approximately, and
that's fully 50% of the price of a $10 CD-ROM.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3193
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/12/93 10:10p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS> RE> You're a dealer aren't you Poe?? Its probably cheaper for you to get
RS> RE> caddies than it is for the average user.... Most users I know of with
RS> RE> caddy type drives can only afford one caddy... and they are amazed
RS> RE> and impressed by the Panasonic....
RS>Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect a CDROM
RS>that can cost much more.
So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3194
To: ED FEINS Date: 09/12/93 10:11p
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EF>I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
EF>$25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA (went "caddy-less")
Congratulations, Ed! Always glad to see another joining the club!
:-)))
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3195
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/13/93 10:12a
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
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TS>GP>I urge EVERYONE to boycott this garbage. A standard isn't a standard
TS>GP>the people making the hardware and software can continue to "raise the
TS>GP>bar" by increasing the hardware required every six to twelve months.
TS>GP>Why go to the trouble of meeting a standard, if six months later you
TS>GP>find that you're still screwed? :-((
TS>Sorry that you're upset Gordon, but until we can get full-motion
TS>full-screen high resolution video with integrated hi-fi sound and
TS>full-length movies on cd-rom, I think the standards are going to keep
TS>moving upwards.
If a "standard" isn't to mean anything, then clearly the users have no
reason to worry about whether or not they buy a system that conforms to
a "standard". Of course technology and capability will evolve, but this
idiocy of redefining a "standard" every six or twelve months makes it
quite clear that paying more today to get a system which adheres to "the
standard" and expecting that thereby one will be protected just means
you're being ripped off.
TS>I would never recommend someone buys less than an MPC-2 standard computer
TS>(in fact I'd aim a little higher in the memory and hard disk areas), but
TS>that doesn't mean I'd sneer at someone who owns lesser equipment..
Clearly MPC-2 isn't good enough to meet your "ultimate goal" above
either. So given that fact, I think it makes more sense to sit back and
wait for the smoke to clear... and either buy something that's
sufficient for reading shareware CD-ROMs today (e.g. the Mitsumi) or (in
the worst case) nothing at all, until the industry manages to get its
act together. :-(((((
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3196
To: FRANK RUSKO Date: 09/13/93 10:15a
Subj: Mpc Atlas Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FR>GP> AD>For a world atlas, Global Explorer from DeLorme Mapping is the best.
FR>GP> AD>my opinion, Global Explorer is FAR superior to any other CD-ROM
FR>GP> AD>based world atlas currently on the market.
FR>GP> I second that opinion. The Software Toolworks US/World Atlas, for
FR>GP> example, is pathetic by comparison (although admittedly cheaper).
FR>Gord...Would you be kind enough to post an address please..
Be glad to. DeLorme Mapping, Lower Main Street, P.O. Box 298, Freeport,
Maine 04032 USA. (207) 865-1234.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3197
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/13/93 10:20a
Subj: MANPOWER - NEW GAY CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR> GP> It may not be your "thing", but hey, why shouldn't it be available to
DR> GP> those who might be interested? A little bit of tolerance, please, for
DR> GP> people whose interests might be different than your own.
DR>We do NOT have to tolerate immoral behavior. No one should.
In many countries, it's immoral to eat pork. In other places, it's
considered perfectly proper to eat dog meat. In still others, people
don't eat beef. And some cultures eat insects. What some people find
immoral or disgusting, others find perfectly respectable. And vice
versa.
In any case, the subject of tolerance of people who happen to be
different than you are is better discussed in Issues and Debates, not
here. If you want to discuss the matter further, I propose we move it
there. :-)
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3198
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/13/93 10:30a
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>I just can't get exited of fonts anymore. You get so much free high
TT>quality fonts with software you buy nowadays. I have about 200 TT
Right, but an awful lot of them aren't very valuable here in Europe
because they don't support the European accented characters.
TT>and Adobe type 1 fonts installed in my primary PC and that is far more
TT>than I ever will need. Although I might have use for two special fonts.
TT>Maybe you have seen those somewhere? First one is a font with images of
TT>keyboard caps (you know those things that you find in software manuals)
There is one of those on the Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM.
TT>and the second one to emulate OEM char sets = to produce the special
TT>characters of DOS like the ones for drawing boxes when using Windows.
I think that's in the normal Symbols font but I'm not sure. In any
case, using character fonts to draw line graphics (when the screen is in
graphics mode anyhow) seems to me like a pretty strange way of misusing
TrueType fonts (even if one could get the positioning EXACTLY right).
TT>GP>a stack of discs, I think it's much easier to rapidly find the disc y
TT>GP>want (by the color of the spine of the jewelbox, for example) than to
TT>GP>pull out the right disc that's been preloaded into one of a pile of
TT>GP>identical-looking caddies.
TT>This happens only if you have them in a stack.
You're going to store them all on your desk flat, face up, one-layer
deep??
TT>And caddies mostly come
TT>with stickers where you can write the name of the CD and this sticker is
TT>visible even when caddies are stacked. Actually I think that if
TT>manufacturers don't pack their CD:s in caddies (which would probably
TT>increase the price by USD 2-3; big deal with a CD costing 50...100) they
Right, but the cost of the caddy would then be MORE than the cost of the
disc. And besides, you'd be forcing the more astute user who bought a
caddyless drive to begin with to buy something that they have absolutely
not the slightest use for.
TT>could at least provide a printed sticker for the caddie with the
TT>product.
Why bother? Caddies are going to go the way of the Edsel anyway.
TT>CD-drives available. If I have two CD-drives in front of me with equal
TT>performance and equal price tag the only difference being a fancy
TT>sliding disk tray I wouldn't hesitate a single second to pick the one
TT>without tray. It is reasonable to presume that the manufacturer of the
TT>trayless drive has invested in slightly better quality components for
TT>the rest of the drive as the costly tray mechanism has been left out.
You're assuming that you get what you pay for. The converse is
certainly true: you DON'T get what you DON'T pay for. But nine times
out of ten, if you're paying more you're ONLY paying more. The retail
price of products often has LITTLE relationship to their cost of
manufacture.
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 3199
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/14/93 6:11p
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A message from Gordon Peterson to Roger Smith on 09-12-93:
GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
Because it is almost impossible to stick a caddy to a caddyless player.
;-) But seriously speaking it is too late to change anything. Philips
should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective covering (like
caddy) instead of plain disk when designing the CD-standard.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 3200
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/14/93 6:11p
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A message from Gordon Peterson to Tapani Tuominen on 09-13-93:
GP> Right, but an awful lot of them aren't very valuable here in Europe
GP> because they don't support the European accented characters.
What kind of fonts are you using then? I just checked several of my
fonts for curiosity and all of them worked perfectly well with European
special characters and still they came with US-versions of software
(Designer, Amipro etc.). However the situation might be different with
some TT-fonts from USA, especially if they are either free or shareware as
they are developed for local needs primarily. Those fonts that I have are
almost exclusively Type-1 fonts from Adobe.
GP> There is one of those on the Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM.
I would like to see this font.
GP> TT>and the second one to emulate OEM char sets = to produce the spec
GP> TT>characters of DOS like the ones for drawing boxes when using Wind
GP>
GP> I think that's in the normal Symbols font but I'm not sure. In any
GP> case, using character fonts to draw line graphics (when the screen i
GP> graphics mode anyhow) seems to me like a pretty strange way of misus
GP> TrueType fonts (even if one could get the positioning EXACTLY right)
Maybe I should explain that I need to have copies of DOS-screens (Full
Screen mode under Windows copied to clipboard). Windows converts during
this process OEM-char set to ANSI-set and when the original screen is
reproduced to a Windows-document all the graphics chars. of IBM -char set
are converted to something else. However I have heard that there is a font
that emulates those producing the kind of image of the screen I need. But
unfortunately I haven't been able to find the font in question so far.
GP> Right, but the cost of the caddy would then be MORE than the cost of
GP> disc. And besides, you'd be forcing the more astute user who bought
GP> caddyless drive to begin with to buy something that they have absolu
GP> not the slightest use for.
I know. It is just those damned caddyless drives causing this problem. ;-)
GP> TT>could at least provide a printed sticker for the caddie with the
GP> TT>product.
GP>
GP> Why bother? Caddies are going to go the way of the Edsel anyway.
Whether you like it or not a huge number of players with caddies are
around and there is no indication so far that they were disappearing.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3201
To: JEFF COLLINGWOOD Date: 09/15/93 11:47p
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC>In a message to Mike Shannon <09/11/93> Doug Carpenter wrote:
JC>DC> Give it a rest....
JC>Hey Doug, you started it, now you ask him to give it a rest! It
JC>gets tiring listening to two dealers bicker. I suggest that you
JC>don't start this nonsense in the first place. Or at least do it
JC>from netmail so the rest of us don't have to be subjected to
JC>this.
Good point Jeff, except I wasn't trying to "bicker" with Doug. He simply
stated that he had "lots more" CD's that were newer (i.e. contained newer
files) than Night Owl 9. This was all a little while back, before Vault
Gold, Shareware Online 2, and some of the other brand new CD's had
surfaced, and I simply wanted to know which CD's he was referring to. No
flame intended from my side.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3202
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/15/93 11:47p
Subj: CD-ROM PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KS>Ya know, I'm not the echo police, but I know you have been told about that
KS>10 line limit for advertising. Every other good dealer can live with it,
KS>so why can't you? This is all your 10 lines give you, so cut the crap and
KS>get to the meat without the trash.
Sorry about that. I really didn't intend for that 10+ liner to get into
the CD-ROM echo, because I do respect Bob's rules, but sometimes when I'm
in a hurry, I mistakenly post ads from CDROM_SALE into CDROM and
vice-versa.
KS>Pre-ordering sucks too IMO, you need money to finish the product,
talk to a bank.
You're certainly entitled to your opinion, but many of my customers need
to have new CD's THE DAY they are released onto the market, so for them
pre-ordering works well. Others like it because they know through pre-
ordering that they don't have to scan the ads every day to determine if
a new title has been released yet. They will automatically receive it
a few short days after their dealer receives the goods. Also, my
customers know I don't charge their cards until the date of shipment, so
the whole procedure is a sort of "set it and forget it" arrangement that
works out well for both of us. If you're not too put out, please consider
us for your next purchase. Would be glad to send you a catalog.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3203
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: HOT NEW SHAREWARE CD!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 Price: $35 |
* Fully BBS ready with file listings in six different formats.
* 623mb total * 4200+ total files * All files dated 1/93 to 8/93.
* File listing available: ONLINE2.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)
Special offer: Get Shareware Online 1 AND 2 for only $55! Best of 92/93.
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3204
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD: $29! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
| Title: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD Price: $29 |
* Fully BBS-ready * 593 megabytes * 6148 files
* File listing available: VAULTGLD.ZIP @ 509-457-0206 (V.32bis)
2-CD SET: Software Vault Gold + Software Vault 2...(NO dupes!)....$44
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3205
To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: CD PHOTOS Refer: NONE
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GM>Thanks Mike. Didn't realise it was that much, tho' I'm sure it's
GM>reasonable value. I've already got nearly a dozen CDs on order or
GM>backorder from you, so I'll leave this one for now. ( My wife
GM>thinks "Starvector" is part of our standard Mastercard billing form)
Ha Ha Ha Ha ..... 8) <ROFLMAO>
Seriously though, just let her keep thinking that! Best to let a
sleeping dog lie, eh? Anyway, I was kind of waiting until Busty II and
Pier 3 came in before I sent your order. Would you like me to send the
others now and backorder those, or wait until the two new ones come in,
and send the whole batch at once? Your call.
Later,
.\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3206
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/15/93 11:48p
Subj: CD SALES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> -=> Quoting Mike Shannon to Bob Jackson <=-
BJ> MS> but I would estimate that the majority of my customers are end-users.
BJ> ^^^^^^^^^
BJ>Interesting. Another reply had it 5:1 in favor of sysops. Part of what
BJ>originally sparked the discussion was the fact that more and more CDs
BJ>(of all types) are coming with increasingly sophisticated front-ends -
BJ>like SHOWOFF on BB3 - which have little/no value to sysops. At the same
BJ>time, there is a concomitant increase in interest for having "FILES.BBS"
BJ>(or whatever) on new CDs. Clearly the producers are trying to please
BJ>both markets.
Yes, I think you've hit it on the head there. Please realize though that
my figures come from sales attributable to my ads in National magazines,
our shareware catalogs, local media, etc., as well as from the computer
networks. If I had to make an educated guess, I would say that the
majority of our sales in Fido, RIME, Compuserve, etc., belong to sysops.
Bye,
.\\ike
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From: MARK GUTT Number: 3207
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 5:17a
Subj: KQ6 CD FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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I have the King's Quest 6 CD version for sale.
Its been only used 2 times. Everything is
original and includes the registration card.
$38.00 which includes shipping. If
interested call me at (414) 734-4090.
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From: MARK GUTT Number: 3208
To: ALL Date: 09/15/93 5:19a
Subj: ECOQUEST 1 CD FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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I have the Eco Quest 1 CD version for sale.
Used less than 5 times. It is an excellent
adventure game. It is one of Sierra's best
efforts for CD games. As with KQ6, it can
be run from DOS or Windows.
Everything is original and includes
the registration card. $34.00 which
includes shipping. If interested call me
at (414) 734-4090.
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From: KEN MATTHEWS Number: 3209
To: ALL Date: 09/03/93 6:43p
Subj: CD's for sale Refer: NONE
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Day of the Tentacle 30.00
SpaceQuest IV 20.00
World View 20.00
So Much Shareware 3 20.00
Windy City NixPix 5 20.00 <--must be over 21
Plus shipping.. ken 412 793 9152
... Glad To Be Here..
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From: ADRIAN VERGOT Number: 3210
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 5:22p
Subj: Make your own CD-ROM! Refer: NONE
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How would you like your own custom made CD-ROM?
CD-ROM Creations (c) has now made getting your proprietary DOS or Windows
files, programs, and databases onto CD-ROM both EASY and Affordable.
All you have to do is send us a copy of your proprietary information
(600+ Meg!) on DC2XXX QIC40/80 Colorado style tape cartridges (other
formats considered on a case by case basis) and we will directly
transfer it onto an ISO compliant CD-ROM that can be accessed by any
ISO compliant CD-ROM drive (just about every one made today!)
- Confidentiality is assured
- $99 per CD-ROM
- additional copies only $50 each
- Turn around time is about 2 days
- BBS Sysops call for rates
- We accept money orders and cashiers checks
- Pesonal Check orders will be shipped when check clears bank
If interested, call (412) 942-4694 and ask for Adrian
Auto Fax (412) 942-4694
CD ROM Creations
108 Shady Lane
McMurray, PA 15317
Enclose a signed copy of the following disclaimer with your order:
DUE TO THE BULK NATURE OF THIS SERVICE, CD-ROM CREATIONS (c) DOES
NOT AND CAN NOT CENSOR AND DETERMINE THE NATURE OF THE MATERIEL
THAT THE CUSTOMER IS PROVIDING. IT IS THEREFORE THE SOLE
RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CUSTOMER TO ENSURE THAT NO COPYRIGHT
VIOLATIONS EXIST IN PLACING THE DATA ONTO CD-ROM
Signed ______________________________
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From: RICK SHOAF Number: 3211
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/16/93 1:08a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
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JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but by
JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with the
JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of the
JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there with
JW>this set-up that might have had this problem and solved it. AKA - Cound
JW>it be a bad drive, interface card, Ecte, or am I just hooking it up
JW>wrong. Thanks in advance for any help! :)
Your drive is good and so is the SB Pro. If you have the manual to the
SB Pro, look in the back at the schematic drawings, it will give you the
pin assignments for the audio input. now look at the manual for the
Mitsumi. It's pins are a different configuration than the SB Pro. You
will need to reverse the wires to something like this...
Original What it should be
SB Pro Audio input SB Pro Audio input
Pin 1 2 3 4 Pin 1 2 3 4
1 2 3 4 2 1 4 3
Mitsumi Audio out Mitsumi Audio out
Look at the manuals to make sure, because I've only done this once, and
it was on my brother's computer, not mine, so I'm not sure of the exact
connections.
Rick
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From: JACK DIEHL Number: 3212
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 9:30a
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
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does any one know if mitsumi has a tech-warranty line i have one that
worked for about 2 weeks then quit it does not appear to be spinnig up
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3213
To: MARK GWYNN Date: 09/17/93 11:11a
Subj: Looking for used cd Refer: NONE
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MG=>but I'd like your list of CD's. Please send it to:
On it's way!
MG=>p.s.
MG=>Interesting registration number for your QModemPro. Where'd you find that?
That's what I put in my OLX.CFG, I am a reg owner though....:)
Adrian
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From: KENNETH WATTS Number: 3214
To: CD-ROM WHOLESALERS Date: 09/17/93 10:39p
Subj: WHOLESALERS WANTED Refer: NONE
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Wanted cd-rom wholesaler to place orders with. Please send catalog or ordering
information to: Kenneth Watts
19 apollo place
Iowa city, Ia 52240
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From: ARNIE BERGER Number: 3215
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/17/93 7:13p
Subj: PANASONIC CD562-B / SBPR Refer: NONE
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BR>I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a
R>with no troubleshooting hints. It does mention that a 521c drive can
BR>be installed. The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I
BR>doubt.
BR>Please help by providing some ideas or solutions. Thanks in Advance.
Brian, I just installed the Creative labs version of this drive
and my dealer had to replace the motherboard, inorder to get the drive
to work. Fortunately my system wa under warranty so it free. The
technician told me with my old motherboard the drive locked up and would
not work. I don't know it this will help you in your situation.
Arnie
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 3216
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 8:42p
Subj: Os/2 and mitsumi Refer: NONE
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Can somebody please tell me how to get any of the os/2 cd-rom drivers
for the mitsumi to work.
Os/2 says it loaded the driver but doesn't recognize the drive.
instructions for any of the drivers on here would be fine because I
have them all and I can't get them to work.
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From: CARLOS BENITZ Number: 3217
To: DAVE REED Date: 09/15/93 1:25p
Subj: Pollution Refer: NONE
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DR> CB> I'm sick of reading crap like this (from everyone). Do you think
DR> CB> it enhances your reputation as a dealer to bicker with people?
DR>Uh... which part are you sick of? Correcting certain dealers who
The bickering.
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3218
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/17/93 9:26a
Subj: Re: MY NEW CD-ROM! HELP Refer: NONE
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BF> >computer system will make great gains in virtually every
BF> area by discarding
BF> >with the greatest possible haste the huge waste and lack of flexibility
BF> >inherent with every aspect of Windows. Having done that,
BF> one can then continue
BF> >on the journey to make the most out of one's computer by
BF> loading a genuine
BF> >Operating System that can actually make good use,
BF> substantially full use, of
BF> >one's hardware
BF> Too bad OS/2 doesn't qualify on those points, and as JUST as bloated as
BF> Windows....
No, it isn't, really, or doesn't HAVE to be. One can easily create a
1.44 Meg boot floppy, and a minimal OS/2 implementation will fit easily in a
couple of Megs. The point is, one can streamline the OS code to optimize one's
hardware, and the drivers do indeed make substantially full use of the
hardware. Some of the code COULD be much smaller, however.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3219
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/17/93 9:31a
Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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BF> >Folly persists, despite efforts to eradicate it. Abrogating a superior
BF> >technology
BF> Like caddyless. There is NO inherent superiority to a
BF> caddie-based drive, and a
BF> LOT of inherent limitations and excess costs involved in one.
That is crap, and we have pointed it out. Caddies prevent dust,
scratches, and dropped CD's. There is no particular advantage FOR THE DRIVE
MECHANISM, but for the technology as a whole, there damn sure is.
BF> > I have over 250 CD's, both audio and CD-ROM, and
BF> each and every one is
BF> >in a caddy.
BF> Sounds like you are made out of money. Most of us are NOT....
Not even a little. I merely have been collecting CD's, slowly, for a
large number of years.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3220
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/17/93 9:44a
Subj: Re: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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BF> > It is utter foolishness to do otherwise. The
BF> extra $$$ are trivial
BF> The extra $$$ adds up in a HURRY, and the cost of the ROMs themselves are
BF> getting to the point that the damn caddies add 50% to the
BF> cost (I AM a dealer,
BF> not an end user, so my ROM cost is a lot lower).
For the average *USER*, ROM costs are a lot higher. Especially if one
is buying the expensive software, like $1500 phone directories, or the Oxford
English Dictionary.
BF> They are also a lot harder to read unless you want to
BF> waste a LOT of horizontal
BF> space to store them in (I NEVER have enough desktop space as it is!).
Neither do I, but jewel cases clutter just as badly as caddies, worse
when we are talking about 6-disk magazines.
BF> > BF> I also happen to hate the extra expen$e of those *$&*&^*@&^ caddies.
BF> > Do you hate the extra expense of relacing CD's?
BF> What extra expense? I've had AUDIO CD players for over 10 years, and have
So have I.
BF> NEVER damaged a disc in any of those - and a caddy is a
Neither have I, although I have had some very close calls, until I got
caddies.
BF> foreign concept in the
BF> audio CD world except for multi-disc changers (which I've
BF> never owned one of).
I wouldn't own anything else.
BF> The "damaged disc" argument in 98% of the cases is BOGUS.
That 2% can easily cost several times the total amount of all the
caddies one would ever buy.
BF> >The time savings
BF> Is non-existant.
Is QUITE significant. It takes me less than three seconds to load a
magazine, while it takes at LEAST ten seconds to load and unload jewel cases.
It took several MINUTES, sometimes, for me to find the right damned jewel case
when I had to replace a CD. Of course, it can still take me that amount of
time to find the right cartridge, but at least I don't have to do it TWICE.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3221
To: PETE CRESSWELL Date: 09/17/93 9:47a
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
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LR> The WPS, although FAR better than Windows, also stinks to high
LR> heaven. My best advice to the OS/2 user is to dump
PC> the WPS, as well.
PC> Ever tried a MacIntosh?
Yep. Useless toys.
Les
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3222
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 09/17/93 10:04p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
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Hello Donnie!
15 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to All:
DR> Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale two months old with interface, docs, and
DR> interface card. Still in box. $175.00 I'll pay shipping.
I will offer $160, I know I just offered $150, but I thought $160 would be a
better offer 512-939-9822 any time!
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3223
To: CARL SLAWINSKI Date: 09/17/93 10:11p
Subj: Money/sent Refer: NONE
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Hello Carl!
Sent the money off today for the CD's!
Pat
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From: CHRIS DUBOIS Number: 3224
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/09/93 1:48a
Subj: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
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GS>More specs:
GS>14 MHz 68020
GS>AGA chipset (16.8 million colour palette, 256 000 displayble)
GS>C-Cube MPEG chipset
GS>Chunky to planar chip
GS>2 Meg RAM
GS>Double speed Matsushita CD-ROM drive
GS>Keboard connector
GS>Floppy drive connector
GS>2 joystick ports
GS>11 button joystick
GS>Photo-CD compatible
GS>MPEG-1 film CD compatible (as is 3DO, CD-I with FMV upgrade)
GS>Audio CD compatible
GS>I expect it to be priced under $400 American (possibly $350 or so).
Do you have any more specs on this, like what CD-ROM format, how soon it
will be released, etc.
Much appreciated!
Ç OLX 2.1 TD Ç Ashen-Shugar, part number ÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇ
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From: CHRIS DUBOIS Number: 3225
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/10/93 10:28p
Subj: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
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GS>More specs:
GS>14 MHz 68020
GS>AGA chipset (16.8 million colour palette, 256 000 displayble)
GS>C-Cube MPEG chipset
GS>Chunky to planar chip
GS>2 Meg RAM
GS>Double speed Matsushita CD-ROM drive
GS>Keboard connector
GS>Floppy drive connector
GS>2 joystick ports
GS>11 button joystick
GS>Photo-CD compatible
GS>MPEG-1 film CD compatible (as is 3DO, CD-I with FMV upgrade)
GS>Audio CD compatible
GS>I expect it to be priced under $400 American (possibly $350 or so).
Do you have any more specs on this, like what CD-ROM format, how soon it
will be released, etc.
Much appreciated!
Ç OLX 2.1 TD Ç Ashen-Shugar, part number ÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇÇ
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From: BRIAN CUKRNOW Number: 3226
To: NICK LAWRUS Date: 09/11/93 12:23p
Subj: Re: Texel CDROM questions Refer: NONE
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NL> How good are the Texel CDROMS? Speed, reliability, etc. Anybody own
NL> these units?
NL>
NL> And does the speed of a CDROM really matter? I mean, they are all
NL> pretty slow anyway, right? Thanks in advance!
I own a Texel 3024 CD. It's a 300K/s drive with 265ms access time. It is
obvious which drive is faster when you aren't using a double speed drive or
have slow access rates. I've found it to be very reliable.
--S*p*l*i*n*t*e*r-->
Man says body is his wife, but she tells police it isn't.
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From: BRIAN CUKRNOW Number: 3227
To: MIKE AVILA Date: 09/11/93 12:26p
Subj: Re: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
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MA> FYI: If my memory chips are working, I remember reading in PC Week and/or
MA> InfoWorld that SmartDrv coming out with DOS 6.2 **WILL** cache CD-ROM drive
MA> Supposedly the SmartDrv coming out with DOS 6.2 (which will be SmartDrv 4.2
MA> is already available for free on CompuServe. Not sure if it does cache CD-
MA> though. I'm looking forward to that!
I hgave 4.2 from the MSDL BBS. It does not support CD cache. The version
in DOS 6.2 will probably be version 4.3, or something like that...
Slow driver arrested after 4 county chase.
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From: BRIAN CUKRNOW Number: 3228
To: MICHAEL GRAY Date: 09/11/93 12:31p
Subj: Re: Smartdrv as cache Refer: NONE
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MG> I have just downloaded the smartdrive version you mentioneed and it does n
MG> cach CD_ROM's. In fact in the documents included it says the new version is
MG> slower than the one that comes with DOS 6. Well, I guess we will just have
MG> keep waiting :(
It's only slower if you don't enable write caching...duh.
Morituary adds drive-through.
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From: BRIAN CUKRNOW Number: 3229
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/14/93 5:43p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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RH> It all installs fine. However, when I type T7G to start it, the screen jus
RH> dims, and music plays and a voice says "Welcome to my house" or something
RH> similar. Now and again, the screen brightens or dims again (all that is on
RH> the screen, is whatever was on there when I typed T7G - ie the DOS prompt).
I had the same problem when I had the game...I use a Diamond Viper. The
solution for me was to download the latest patch from Virgin's BBS. They
were at v1.24 when I d/led it. Give their BBS a call and download the
latest patch version. If that doesn't help, you'll need to talk to someone
at Virgin...
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BBBAAAAAAA/?
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3230
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/16/93 4:37p
Subj: CD32 Info 1/2 Refer: NONE
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* This message forwarded from area 'AMIGA_CDROM' (AMIGA_CDROM)
* Original message dated 14 Sep 93, from Robert Du Gaue
Here's some initial info available at WOC from press releases and literature
regarding CD32:
AMIGA CD32 Technical Specs
Processor: 68EC020 at 14Mhz
RAM: 2Mb CHIP ram plus 1Kb of nonvolital RAM for storing
hi-scores, save games, etc.
ROM: Kickstart 3.1
Chipset: AGA Chipset with new chunky-to-planar hardware.
Video Out: RF (PAL, NTSC, or SECAM units available) to connect to
the aerial socket on your TV, Composit Video and Super-VHS
outputs are available. There is no RBG monitor port on
the CD32.
Aux Connector: Standard A4000-style keyboard connector. Other possible
add-ons include multi-joystick adaptors, virtual reality
'gloves'.
Joystick Ports: 2 standard Amiga joystick/mouse ports capable of supporting
digital and analogue joysticks, mice, trackballs and light
pens as well as the new CD32 multi-button controller.
Expansion Bus: Full expansion bus allowing possible further expansions
including: Parallel/Serial/Floppy/RGB; Photo CD support;
Full Motion Video (FMV) MPEG decoder board, Ram Expansion;
Processor; Accelerators (68030/68040 etc); Hard disk
interfacs (IDE, SCSI, SCSI 2, etc); Networking PCMCIA.
CD-ROM: Top-loading double speed (300Kb/sec data rate) multisession
CD drive. Unlike CDTV the drive does not require caddies
and is not self-cleaning.
Compatible: CD-Audio; CDTV titles (most seem to work); CD+G audio
discs with graphics (including Karaoke discs); CD
specific titles; Movie-CD discs (with optional MPEG
board)
--==> Continued next message (see comparison chart) <==--
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3231
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/16/93 4:34p
Subj: CD32 Info 2/2 Refer: NONE
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CD COMPARISON CHART
CD32 CDTV CDi Sega MegaCD
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Price (pounds) #299 #299 #499 #399
Arcitecture 32bit 16bit 16bit 16bit
Processor 68EC020 68000 68070*** 68000
Processor
Speed 14Mhz 7.14Mhz 16Mhz 12Mhz
RAM 2Mb 1Mb 1Mb 64Kb
CDROM Speed Double Single Single Single
CD Audio
Support Yes Yes Yes Yes
Colors
Available 16Million 4096 16Million 512
Max on Screen* 256 32 256 64
RF (TV) Output Yes Yes Yes Yes
Composit Video
Out Yes Yes Yes Yes
S-VHS Out Yes NTSC Only Yes No
Keyboard
Socket Yes Yes Yes No
Floppy Drive
Port No** Yes No No
Standard
Joystick
Connectors Yes No** No Yes
Requires
Caddies No Yes No No
Photo CD
Support No** No** Yes No
Movie CD
Support No** No No** No
CDXL Support Yes Yes No No
Arcade
Quality
Games Yes Some Some Yes
Reference
Serious
Titles
Available Yes Yes Yes No
Expandable to
Home Computer No** Yes No No
Average Title
Price (pounds) #30 #30 #50 #50
* Max colors on screen in standard modes for games etc.
** With optional add-on.
*** 68070 is custom 16-bit 68000 variant.
--==> The End! <==--
Gary
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From: JEFF PATTEN Number: 3232
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/15/93 11:41p
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
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>>BM>After Talking to Sony and Trantor Systems (formerly Adaptek)
>>BM>I was told
>> the other way around...Adaptec is TRANTOR
BF> Unless somethng happened VERY recently, both Adaptec and Trantor
BF> are independent companies.
Adaptec bought Trantor a few months ago. The Trantor stuff is now listed
under Adaptec in the Ingram catalog.
Jeff
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3233
To: JUSTIN RUSSELL Date: 09/14/93 1:47p
Subj: MULTI CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
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>Hey has anyone out there seen a CD-ROM that can hold 6 CD's and change them?
Pioneer DRM-600A and DRM-604X.
Both are SCSI.
I don't sell either, but ask around about them....
* SLMR 2.1a * Don't worry, Inspector Legrasse - just another swam cult
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3234
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/15/93 7:49a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
>Thanks for your input, would like to hear what Tony said, will give him a call
>and shoot the bull.
Save a couple of steaks for me?
8-)
>6 months might be about right.
I would guess more like a year or a bit more - I've seen the legal system in
action too often....
* SLMR 2.1a * Never appeal to a man's better nature He may not have one
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3235
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/15/93 7:58a
Subj: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
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> BF> A 1542C (current Adaptec closest equivilent to the
> BF> IN-2000) runs almost half
> BF> again of typical IN-2000 pricing.
> I got my 1742 for $300.
I've never seen an IN-2000 as HIGH as $200 - typically under $180, and I paid
$145 and $125 for MY pair of them.
> The Adaptec drivers will make use of the busmastering abilities of the
>controller, even under DOS.
Mabey on an EISA bus, but apparently NOT under an ISA bus - and given that DOS
has NO support for busmastering, I doubt that you are REALLY getting any
benifit out of it under EISA.
> BF> >but many of us know better than to stick with DOS.
> BF> I have no choice, as my primary application for this machine doesn't have
> BF> anything resembling an equal under any other OS.
> The odds are extremely high that the application will run very well
>indeed, quite possibly much better than under DOS, directly under an OS/2 VDM.
It has been SHOWN to run not NEARLY as well under OS/2, due to the greater OS/2
overhead if for no OTHER reason(s). TBBS doesn't like running under a
multitasker at ALL, though it WILL do so - but the performance hit is
SUBSTANTIAL....
* SLMR 2.1a * Cthulhu Saves... in case he's hungry later!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3236
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/15/93 8:01a
Subj: TRANTOR SCSI CONTROLL Refer: NONE
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> BF> > Have you called their tech support lately?
> BF> Why? I haven't NEEDED Tech Support from Allways....
> Lucky you. I've only NEEDED tech support for one item on the 1742,
and
>that was a floptical drive. Have you run a floptical drive on an IN-2000?
I couldn't get 3 HARD drives to run on a bleeding Adaptec - and their "Tech
Support" flat out did not EXIST when I was futzing around with their ASPI
junk.
>Especially under OS/2?
I have no use for OS/2 - and never CLAIMED that I had a use for it.
> As far as OS/2 is concerned, however, the need for tech support is
>rare, since Adaptec is one of the premier support products with OS/2.
Like the IN-2000 under DOS.
* SLMR 2.1a * It took my cat a month to fully train me.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3237
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/15/93 11:57a
Subj: CR562B CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
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> I don't know of anyone doing a CD-ROMdrive/paddle card/CD-ROM bundle
I know several such folks (CD-ROM Source here in Indianapolis) but they're ALL
U.S. folks....
* SLMR 2.1a * The way to love anything is to realize it might be lost.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3238
To: MARC STANTON Date: 09/15/93 12:02p
Subj: NIGHTOWL 9 Refer: NONE
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> So, Who Where When and all that sorta stuff might I find NightOwl 9 ?
>(216)848-1991
I had one of them at the Findley Hamfest this past weekend. I should have more
at the Springfield Hamfest on October 3.
Current price on them is $29....
* SLMR 2.1a * Do Radioactive Cats have 18 Half-Lifes?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3239
To: ROBERT HARE Date: 09/15/93 12:04p
Subj: MULTI CD-ROM? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>Yes there is one Panisonic Makes it and it is scsi
Pioneer, not Panasonic.
* SLMR 2.1a * Don't ask me, I was hired for my looks.
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3240
To: ROBERT POWELL Date: 09/15/93 12:10p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
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>Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are UNLIKELY to
>damage a CD disk.
I'm a good example - 10+ years using CDs, and I've NEVER damaged one (OK, one
exception that I took a hammer to!).
>CDs are on the other hand durable enough that some music
>stores purchase and sell used ones.
Quite a few such stores, actually - I would guess that there are as many folks
that deal in used CDs (between CD stores, pawn shops, etc.) as deal in new
ones.
>Point #2 - Drives that do not use caddies do not eat CDs the same way a cheap
>cassette player eats cassettes. They should not be considered inferior for
>solely because they use a tray mechanism.
Especially given how many caddy drives use the caddy as a "tray".
>Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an average cost of 40 dollars each and
>then buy 10 caddies at a cost of 7.50 each. You would have had to trash 2
>disks or 20 percent of your programs before buying the caddies will save you
>anything above the cost of their purchase.
Both numbers tend to be high - the LARGE majority of CD-ROMs around today
retail for less than $40, I'd estimate the "unit sales weighted average" would
be more like $25 to $30. On the other hand, caddies are COMMON at $5 give-or-
take a few cents.
>Point #4 - If you do not take reasonable care of your equipment, if you
>possess no hand/eye coordination, if you are prone to getting drunk while
>using your computer equipment, if you consistently trash music CDs just by
>looking at them, or if you allow your children to play with your computer then
>purchasing a CDROM that uses caddies IS A NECESSITY.
Actually, it is EASIER to damage a CD while inserting it in that caddy than it
is to damage one by "dropping" it in a tray. Only AFTER you have the CD in the
caddy is it "safer"....
* SLMR 2.1a * Your right to punch me ends just short of my nose!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3241
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/15/93 2:30p
Subj: I WANT CADDIES Refer: NONE
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>Have you ever experienced playing and switching CD:s while
>driving a car equipped with a caddyless player?
Yes - for about 4 of the last 6 years now. It's NOT a problem if you are
patient (after all, the car DOES bounce around on some roads).
>GP>a stack of discs, I think it's much easier to rapidly find the disc y
>GP>want (by the color of the spine of the jewelbox, for example) than to
>GP>pull out the right disc that's been preloaded into one of a pile of
>GP>identical-looking caddies.
>This happens only if you have them in a stack.
Or in a CD holder.
>And caddies mostly come with stickers where you can write the name of the CD
>and this sticker is visible even when caddies are stacked.
Barely.
>Actually I think that if manufacturers don't
>pack their CD:s in caddies (which would probably increase the price by USD
2-3;
>big deal with a CD costing 50...100)
I don't know where you are getting YOUR CDs, but I don't SELL them for over $40
(much less BUY them for that HIGH).
>You must have been using only high end audio CD-players obviously.
I've used CD-players from ALL ends of the spectrum - and this "wear" garbage is
NOT a factor on any DECENT tray design. It MIGHT be a factor if you go through
discs on a 20+ a day rate on a CHEAP player, or if you are in a Record Station
type environment going through hundreds of discs a DAY....
* SLMR 2.1a * Prevent noise pollution. NUKE a Rapper!
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3242
To: BOB JENKINS Date: 09/15/93 2:32p
Subj: MTMCDE VS MTMCDS Refer: NONE
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> The bozos who installed my Mitsumi loaded the software polling driver (ie.
>MTMCDE.SYS) and not the DMA driver...When I use the DMA driver, the drive
>slows down to the point where I think it's gone to la-la land.
Sounds like the "bozos" did the job RIGHT.
There is NO real advantage to the DMA driver in a DOS environment, and many
PROBLEMS with it - I've run the "polled" version for a couple of YEARS now
after the DMA version kept crashing under DesqView/QEMM....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3243
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/15/93 4:18p
Subj: WHATS THIS? Refer: NONE
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>MK>> I cant believe it. Friend of mine visit the ONEBBSCON in Colorado a MK>>
>week ago and all he could bring me was a box of candy? From Lee Noga?!
>Hehehehhe, you should have asked him for one of the 'Hayes' modems hats!
I didn't see those, but I did end up with a GTEK hat....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3244
To: EDWARD TUSHAR Date: 09/15/93 4:20p
Subj: CD'S IN THE BACKGROUND Refer: NONE
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>Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen to CD's while doing
>other work on the computer?
Sure - it's called a CD (audio) player....
8-)
Seriously, most of the Audio play programs for CD-ROMs seem to be TSRs.
* SLMR 2.1a * I love my country. I FEAR my government....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3245
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 09/15/93 4:21p
Subj: CDROMS Refer: NONE
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> There are several read/write CDROM systems out. The cheapest sells for under
>a grand and can hold 128 megs. There is another that can hold 600 megs and
>another that can hold 1 gig.
NONE of those use a CD-compatable format. You are confusing "Erasable Optical"
drives with "CD" drives - the two do NOT mix!
>think the 1 gig goes from between 2 and 3 grand.
Maxtor Tahiti - $1295 or a bit less refurb, the Tahiti-II runs ballpark $3000
new last time I checked.
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3246
To: BURT RICH Date: 09/17/93 4:52a
Subj: Re: Adult CD'S used Refer: NONE
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On 14 Sep 93 12:07:00, I heard Burt Rich shout to All:
BR> I am looking to buy any used Adult CD ROMS that contain text,gifs, and
BR> animations/videos. Drop me mail and let me know what you have and what your
BR> asking privately. Located in Southern California and will pay shipping if
BR> needed.........
BR>
BR> Thanks
BR> Effx
I know Free Spirit Softwares Has alot of nice CD's, and they are around
$25-$35 Each... Which is a Good price.
Ask for Barney
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From: VICTOR YIU Number: 3247
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 3:41p
Subj: MediaVision Fusion 16E Refer: NONE
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Hello, All!
I recently got a MediaVision Fusion CD16E CD-ROM set... and inside, the
Pro Audio Spectrum was bundled inside. I've noticed that the card
applies a *heavy* filter at 22kHz playback and below. Is there a way to
remove that filter? I know in SoundBlaster compatibility mode it has no
filter, only PAS mode, and rate <=22kHz. Any help would be appreciated!
BTW -- the mixer utility PAS doesn't fix it... Thanks!
Victor
... If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3248
To: MARCIAL MORENO Date: 09/17/93 9:05a
Subj: Re: cd-rom wholesalers. Refer: NONE
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I was just trying to be informative. BTW: Tenure has nothiung to do woth the
law. If you registered your name as a alias first then fine. But just because
you've been using it longer is no defense. Again, just trying to help. <EOT>
Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3249
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/17/93 9:15a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-NI- Refer: NONE
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LN> If the children are realizing that women can be photographed nud
LN> my post, well then I am glad they learned it from me--
Me, too. (Both sons are Eagle Scouts.) There was *NOTHING* prurient in
your post, Lee.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3250
To: LESLIE ROHRER Date: 09/17/93 9:22a
Subj: CADDY WARS Refer: NONE
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PLEASE join me in putting the "caddy wars" to rest. If you like/don't
like caddies, you can say so in one line. If someone asks, tell them
it's a matter of choice (the truth) and let it go at that. Please?
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3251
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/17/93 9:20a
Subj: CADDY-O-RAMA Refer: NONE
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PLEASE join me in putting the "caddy wars" to rest! If you like/don't
like caddies, you can say so in one line. If someone asks, tell them it
really doens't matter (the truth) and let it go at that. Please??
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3252
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/17/93 9:24a
Subj: CD PHOTOS Refer: NONE
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MS> sleeping dog lie, eh? Anyway, I was kind of waiting until Busty
^^^^^^^^^^^^
Not a very nice thing to say about someone's wife, Mike (GD&R).
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3253
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/17/93 9:26a
Subj: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
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TO>
TO> ADULT
TO> -----
TO> Adult Palate (PC or Mac)........... 28 Adult Reference Library..
TO> After Dark Trilogy................. 40 All Beauties.............
TO> Animation Fantasies Vol 1 or 2..... 28 Asian Ladies.............
TO> Busty Babes........................ 29 Deep Throat..............
Not sure if everyone else saw it this way, but as you can see the prices
for the right-hand column were cutt-off. BTW: You should move this to
the For Sale echo - the moderator banned adult CD posts in this one.
(FYI).
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3254
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/17/93 9:53a
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
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SR> them or complaining about them being here in the echo, just curi
For the same reasons other folks use their computers to play games: It's
their personal choice. Neat concept, huh?
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 3255
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 6:15p
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
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Greets All...
I just grabbed the Shareware Explorer here locally for $80.00 CDN ($60 U.S) and
I am VERY satisfied with the selection on the 4 volumes. The only complaint I
would have is the fact it's files.bbs descriptions are too long making it a
hasstle for Maximus BBS SyOps as myself. Just a little extra time with macros
in Qedit. Also the only way to find out the file area names was to use the
ACCESS.EXE file browsing util that came with it. It made it a tad more annoying
to set up the filearea.ctl entries.
Other than that, I highly recommend this set as being the best I've seen yet.
Cheers...
Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: TIM PEETERS Number: 3256
To: GABRIEL KLYBER Date: 09/17/93 9:33p
Subj: Sb16&cd-rom Refer: NONE
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Hello Gabriel!
Thursday September 16 1993 17:25, Gabriel Klyber wrote to All:
GK> I have a SB16 and would like to hook a CD-ROM up to it. I know it only
GK> works with Mitsumi/Panasonic. I've heard of a new Mitsumi double-spin
GK> CD-ROM. Has anyone else heard or seen this? I was wondering what the price
GK> was. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
Thats funny, it work with my NEC.
BeSeeingYa,
Tim
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From: MARTIN ROODENBURG Number: 3257
To: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Date: 09/19/93 3:09p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Unit Refer: NONE
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Hello Steven,
> Would like to know is Mitsumi LU-005S a multi-session or multi-
> session
> unit?
Tough question.
But yes, it's multi-session.
Bye,
Martin.
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From: RON FINDLING Number: 3258
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/16/93 7:58p
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
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> RF> There would be a lot of advantages here for everyone (except pirates
> RF> and floppy disk manufacturers). Bigger (and presumably better)
> RF> programs, losses due to pirating cut way down, the elimination of the
> RF> "floppy shuffle," (replaced by the "CD shuffle"), etc, etc.
> RF> What does everyone think of this idea?
>And about that time cheap CDROM recorders hit the market
>and the pirates have a field day. :-}
Second reply, second time this was said. I dunno, if doing this
causes cheap CDROM recorders, I think I'll live with it! :)
=========================================================================
>I'm kind of afraid of the price of recordable CDROM drives
>and media coming down since companies will be afraid to put
>alot of data on CDROMs if the data can be copied easily and
>inexpensively.
It doesn't seem to be stopping them from making bigger and bigger
floppy-based programs... Corel Draw is - what? - 10 disks? Strike
Commander is at 8 disks, OS/2 at 20 or so...
The thing is, once companies become more proficient at making multi-media,
and once CD-ROM drives become cheap enough, we're going to see more MM.
And MM can chew up so much CD-ROM space that the "CD-ROM shuffle" is
inevitable - so "7th Guest IV" might take up 7 or 8 CDs..
=========================================================================
On another related topic, I wonder when we're going to see backwardly
compatible drives based on the "colored laser" technology - where
varying this can up the storage capacity of a CD by several times...
it's inevitable the "700M barrier" (or whatever it is) is broken
eventually... just like floppy drives went from 360K to 720K to (etc.).
Since the technology is available, I wonder if the manufacturers aren't
doing everyone a disservice by not trying to make it the standard as
soon as possible... because they WILL come out eventually, and the
longer it takes, the more people are going to have to upgrade (and be
upset about doing it)...
___
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3259
To: POE LIM Date: 09/18/93 3:34p
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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Hi Poe!
On 09-14-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> On Sep 12 10:42 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
PL>
PL> > The same time as the CR562B is released to the general populace??
PL> > <g>
PL>
PL> As far as I know, the CR562B is available now,
Homour Poe, humour... I was having a bit of trouble sourcing a second
one at a similar price to the first....
PL> but not the new SCSI version (I'm getting a bit confused with
PL> their version number now; there are 3 numbers quoted for a SCSI
PL> double spin, multi-session drive) which the agent said will be
PL> available around Christmas; merely relaying the info, as the SCSI
PL> version is not priced quite as competitively as the SB
PL> version, althouh has a larger cache (256K vs 64K).
Believe CR503 as the 300Kbps, 320ms avg acess, motorised tray loading
SCSI-2 Panasonic CD-ROM drive.... I have a photocopy of the spex here
and there are only minor differences between the two....
What price were you quoted?? I would really like to compare one of these
drives to the NEC CDR74-1 and confirm/deny my beliefs about SCSI CD-ROMs.
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3260
To: DAVID CHILDRESS Date: 09/18/93 3:37p
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
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Hi David!
On 09-12-93 David Childress wrote to Rowan Evans...
DC> Thanks for your $10.00! I'm new at this CD stuff, but I'm going to
DC> learn!
The only people who've stopped learning are *DEAD*! <g> Let me know what
CD-ROM drive, etc you settle on....
DC> BTW, what part of Australia are you from?
Sunny Sydney....... I take it from your lagline that you're in California?
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3261
To: JOHN HART Date: 09/18/93 3:39p
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
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Hi John!
On 09-12-93 John Hart wrote to Rowan Evans...
..[Comments on sound cards deleted]..
JH> Check out the October issue of Computer Shopper. They compared a
JH> bunch of 16 bit cards, if you want signal to noise ratio info and
JH> stuff like that if you're interested.
Thanx, I'll do that when that issue of Computer Shopper arrives at the
local newsagent next December/January! (Bulk seamail is *SLOW*!) <g>...
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3262
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/18/93 4:03p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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Hi Tim!
On 09-12-93 Tim Wenas wrote to All...
TW> Hi all.... well done if you could decode the subject line :):)
Done and answering! <g>
TW> I'm thinking of getting a Creative Labs Soundblaster Pro 16 and CD-ROM
TW> drive combination multi-thingo. I've been told to get a nice fast
TW> drive.
True... Things like The 7th Guest are *SLOW* on a 150Kbps drive...
TW> How does double-speed,multi-session sound? Is it at all good?:) I
TW> think the multi-session means it can read photo-CD and writable CDs.
TW> Double speed I think means 300 KB/sec transfer rate, or twice the
TW> old one?
All correct....
TW> What I'm looking at is:
TW> Soundblaster Pro 16
TW> Panasonic <I think> CD-ROM drive, 300kb/s, multi-speed double thing
TW> Bookshelf, Sherlock holmes, voice recognition softs and about 3 other
TW> CDs all for about $799 Aust.
That's the Discovery Kit... Then there's the Performance and Premium Kits
with more CD-ROMs..... $A799.00 is about the best you'll find it for...
TW> Has anyone had experience with the Creative Labs multimedia bundle,
TW> esp. with the CD drive, and what are your opinions? Can you recommend
TW> any other multimedia kits? I've seen a double PAS-16, which is roughly
TW> the equivalent <i think> but costs about $1299 Aust.
Bought a Creative Labs Business kit with the SB 16 ASP and CR563 drive in
May '93 and have been soliloquising about them ever since.... *LOVE IT*
Bought a PAS-16 and NEC CDR-55 at the same time (the CDR-55 is also a
double speed/Photo CD drive) and must state that it cost as much for the
PAS16/CDR-55 bare (no CDs) as it did for the entire CL kit and, as its
SCSI, its not as fast.... The PAS16/CDR-55 is still a good combo (it
doesn't experience the "voice breakups" that occur to an SB in T7G), but
as you say, it costs more for less.....
Hope this helps!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3263
To: IAN SHORTT Date: 09/18/93 4:10p
Subj: Buying a CD-ROM package Refer: NONE
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Hi Ian!
On 09-14-93 Ian Shortt wrote to All...
IS> I am looking at buying a CD-ROM package, and am after advice.
Buy a Creative Labs kit! For a similar price to the Media Vision
Fusion kits, you get a double speed (300Kbps Tfr) fast access (320ms)
motorised tray loading CD-ROM drive with a middle of the road sound
card... (I prefer the PAS in some respects to the SB 16 ASP)....
The bottom of the range kit is the SoundBlaster CD 16 Discovery kit at
$A799.00... Has STW MM Encyc, Grandma & Me, Animals & two other CD-ROMs.
IS> particularly on which encyclopedia is best - the choice
IS> seems to be between Software Toolworks (which I think is
IS> Grolier), or Comptons.
I haven't seen the Compton's MM Encyclopaedia, but the Comptons Family
Encyclopaedia (in the MV Fusion kits) is utter SH*T..... The STW/Groliers
MM Encyclopaedia is an excellent one at a reasonable price.... MS-Encarta
is pretty, but overpriced and its reference is less comprehensive than
the STW/Groliers.
IS> I'm running a 386SX-16, with 4Mb of
IS> memory, and 130Mb hard disk drive. Any help you can give
IS> on specifications (doublespeed, multi-session, etc), and
IS> choice of software on CD would be very welcome.
Next thing its to get you to buy a 486SX/33 motherboard and another 4Mb
of memory....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3264
To: IAN DALWOOD Date: 09/18/93 4:15p
Subj: Re: Buying A Cd-Rom Pack Refer: NONE
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Hi Ian!
On 09-15-93 IAN DALWOOD wrote to IAN SHORTT...
ID> PS: I'm rather impressed by the Labtec CS-550 speakers that came with
ID> my Fusion 16!
I agree with your comments on the Fusion CD16 kits.... I went out and
got an SB 16 ASP with the Panasonic CR562B and sold my Fusion kit....
*BUT* I loved the PAS16 for its sound (in 16-bit mode, I prefer it to
the SB 16 ASP, but the PAS16 doesn't support a Panasonic AT bus CD-ROM
drive 8^(....) I also loved the Labtec CS-550s.... Does anyone know
where to source a set of Labtec CS-550s in Australia???
Cheers!
o
/U\
ID>
ID> ... Greetings from Canberra, Australia
ID> ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12
ID>
ID> --- InterBBS 6.0
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ID> (3:620/243.0)
ID>
ID>
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3265
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/18/93 4:20p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
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Hi Alan!
On 09-14-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> 12 Sep 93 10:58, Rowan Evans wrote to Alan Whitemore:
AW>
AW> I've only tested the transfer rate on 3-4meg files. Maybe I'll give it
AW> another benchmark using a larger file. I thought you may have achieved
AW> something up in the 220Kbs range using SB16 ASP as the controller. If
AW> that had been the case, then there may have been enough there for me
AW> to justify upgrading the sound card. I don't think spending over $200
AW> Aust on a sound card is worthwhile at present just to have the added
AW> ability of playing audio CD's through the sound card.
It all depends on the benchmark you use, Alan... Some report extremely
good throughputs for the CR562B attached to the SB 16 ASP, but I do
get a little curious when 612Kbps is reported! (T7G install)
AW> Just as a matter of interest, how clear is the Audio in your
AW> encyclopedia using SB 16 ASP? I'm finding the sound quite clear
AW> through a SB mono, but distortion in the upper and lower ranges is
AW> quite evident in some of the classical music selections. The animal
AW> and bird sounds seem crystal clear though.
I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
set of speakers that will cope!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3266
To: ALAN WHITEMORE Date: 09/18/93 4:33p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
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Hi Again Alan!
On 09-14-93 Alan Whitemore wrote to Rowan Evans...
AW> ** Quoting Rowan Evans to David Winger **
AW>
AW> AW> Is there any trick to setting up a Panasonic 562B CD-ROM with a
AW> AW> Mono 8 bit SB card?
AW>
AW> DW> I have the same problem. Let me know if you find a solution.
AW>
AW> RE> The only solution possible is to sell the 8-bit SB 1.5/2.0 card
AW> RE> and buy an SB Pro/16/16 ASP.....
AW>
AW> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting the
AW> CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is playing, I
AW> lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording purposes =only=?
What type of Audio piece are we talking about here Alan?? I mean, you're
getting pretty strict at correcting me (I don't mind it if I'm wrong <g>)..
and then you don't provide sufficient info to let me know *EXACTLY* what
you're doing!
AW> I think you're going to try and crawl out of this by using the "Oh! I
AW> thought he was talking about audio CD's" bulldust. How about admitting
AW> you're wrong ;-)
OK I'm wrong <g>.... I no longer have an SB 2.0, so I can't test it!
AW> There's no doubt that SB 16 or SB pro are good
AW> solutions for the 562B in that they can used for the interface card as
AW> well as sound but for me at least, there doesn't seem to be any point
AW> in upgrading a SB mono card that is currently providing perfectly good
AW> sound. When I want to listen to Audio CD's, I reach around and unplug
AW> the cable from the line out on the SB and plug it into the 'phone'
AW> jack on the CD-ROM drive. Big deal.
There appears to be some contradiction here.... You said earlier "unplug
the cable connecting the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio
piece is playing"... and now you say you have to move the speaker cable
from line out to the headphone socket of the CD-ROM to hear an audio CD...
What gives??
OK, to conclude....
1. The mono SB 1.0/1.5/2.0 WILL provide sound for multimedia
applications and, unless you want stereo sound and a CD-ROM
controller on the sound card, you don't have to buy anything
else....
2. The mono SB (etc) WILL NOT allow youto hear Audio CDs though
the speakers connected to the SB, even if you have the CD-ROM
drive headphone jack connected to line-in of the SB and [MCI]
CD Audio loaded....
Is this correct from your testing?? If so, please advise so that the
correct (and verified) information amy be passed on to anyone who asks!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3267
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/18/93 4:35p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
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Hi Andrew!
On 09-11-93 Andrew See wrote to ROWAN EVANS...
AS> RE> The ordinary PAS16 sounded pretty good to me!
AS>
AS> After you hear a decent wavetable card, the beeps and boinks of FM
AS> will sound like a toy. Have you heard a GUS or a Roland Sound Canvas?
Wavetable wasn't (still isn't) a priority, however it's nice to know
that I can connect a Wave Blaster to my SB 16 ASP when it does become so!
As for the two wavetable cards you mentioned, the GUS SCSI is *STILL*
not available and I don't know whether the Roland has CD-ROM support
onboard.....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3268
To: ERIC ESKAM Date: 09/18/93 4:38p
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Eric!
On 09-14-93 Eric Eskam wrote to Rowan Evans...
EE> OK... thanks! I will send you something back in return (for your
EE> trouble).
EE>
EE> I didn't even pay attention to the origin line(!), - I
EE> don't remember where zone three is....
OK, its in the mail on Monday 20/09/93.... Coming AIRMAIL....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3269
To: MARK WALKER Date: 09/18/93 4:42p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Mark!
On 09-14-93 Mark Walker wrote to Rowan Evans...
MW> In a message of <11 Sep 93 11:25:10>, Rowan Evans (3:711/413) writes:
MW>
MW> > You obviously *ARE* picking on me, as you didn't send a copy of
MW> > this to Les Rhorer! <g>
MW> If he had been the only one having the argument with you (whoops
MW> discussion) I would have asked him to stop also.
Well, our discussion brought heaps of other people into the discussion, I
don't remember ever actually sending a message to anyone else other than
Les to say "come and join the party!".... There are a lot of people with
caddy type CD-ROM drives that appear to be insecure enough to have to
join in to beat on one guy who says *NOT!*.... <g>
BTW, have you seen the snide comments re caddys/no caddys that get
slipped into other messages.... It's just that this thread explicitly
has comparing the pros and cons of the two approaches!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3270
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/18/93 4:45p
Subj: Re: CD's in the backgrou Refer: NONE
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Hi Les!
On 09-14-93 Leslie Rhorer wrote to Edward Tushar...
LR> ET> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen
LR> ET> to CD's while doing other work on the computer? Just
LR> ET> wondering. And no, I don't do WINDOWS!<G>
LR>
LR> Sure, with two restrictions. First, you have to have a hardware
LR> setup that is capable of listening to an audio CD, unless
LR> you are listening to audio files for a sound card off a CD.
LR> In either case, however, you will not be able to use the
LR> CD for other applications at the same time. OS/2 handles
LR> all these very well.
There is a DOS based CD Player on Night Owl 8 (CDPLAY2.ZIP I believe)
that operates as a TSR and *DOES* allow you to do other things in DOS
while you're listening to a CD.... I've often used it to play a CD
while I do my echo mail downloads at 14.4Kbps using telemate 4.00 in
DOS......
LR> I don't do Windows, either.
I won't enter the Operating System wars!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3271
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/18/93 4:47p
Subj: 16 Bit Cards Refer: NONE
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Hi Adam!
On 09-09-93 Adam Edwards wrote to Andre Queree...
AE> Only problem is that often the games that have setting for SBPro only
AE> use the SB driver anyway. And even if they do use stereo, its still no
AE> higher quality than standard SB. ie still 8bit just 8bit stereo.
Some games now are starting to have two SB Pro drivers, the OPL3 based
drivers is *NOT* an 8-bit SB driver!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3272
To: MICHAEL BERNSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 4:57p
Subj: Sound Card Refer: NONE
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Hi Maichael!
On 09-13-93 Michael Bernstein wrote to Paul Swider...
MB> PS> Francois, the advantage of connecting a CDROM to the sound card
MB> PS> is you only use one slot in your computer instead of two.
MB>
MB> Your logic is right, but your reality is wrong. I have the Fusion kit
MB> from Media Vision (the non 16-bit version) and in the kit came two
MB> cards. One being a PAS+ card with SCSI adapter and another board which
MB> is some kind of converter for the SCSI.
You have an external CD-ROM drive, n'est ce pas? I haven't seen the
original PAS, but the PAS16 only requires the little borad if you have to
attach an external SCSI drive (it doesn't really require a slot, just an
outlet to the world!).... Is this the same with the PAS???
MB> Don't know if they got rid of this second board in the Fusion 16.
The standard Fusion 16 kit uses the SONY AT bus CD-ROM drive connected
internally, directly off the PAS16SLCD... The SCSI Fusion 16 kits, if
internal connect directly to the SCSI connector on the PAS16.... The
external kits still require the daughtercard....
MB> The good thing about SCSI is that it is the
MB> standard in CD-ROM cards, that's the important thing.
The good thing about SCSI for CD-ROMs is that it drags the fast drive's
transfer rate down so that a proprietary bus CD-ROM starts to look
extremely good! (Especially as they're normally cheaper than SCSI!)....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3273
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/18/93 5:01p
Subj: Night Owl 9 Specials Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hi Mike!
On 09-13-93 Mike Shannon wrote to Doug Carpenter...
MS> BTW: Your Firearms Reference is on the way. Good lookin CD.
Don't tell me - it'll *REALLY* blow him away! <g>
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3274
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/18/93 5:54p
Subj: 562b/563 Refer: NONE
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Hi Debbie!
On 09-15-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Rowan Evans...
DM> Thanks for the information on the 562b/563 Panasonic CD Rom
DM> and it was just what the doctor ordered. What had me mildly
DM> puzzled was when I asked Creative about the 562b, their
DM> reply was that their software / drivers were being written
DM> for the 563 and there was the possibility that their
DM> software would / might not be reliable when using the 562b.
Yeah, and over in Australia the CD-ROM drivers mysteriously disappeared
from their BBS one night!
Also the latest SBCD.SYS has a crude encryption of CR-563XXXX built in,
but it doesn't seem to mind if it only finds a CR-562B! The actual
Panasonic driver, CDMKE.SYS, has an optional parameter /SBP:xxx to allow
use of that driver with SoundBlaster Pro/16/16 ASP.....
DM> I guess one could say that this might be a good way to sell
DM> lots of 563 OMNI packages.
Well, the picture I saw of am OMNI showed it with an 8-bit paddle card
similar to that supplied with my CR562B. I'll have to try and source a
kit so I can check to see what drivers it uses!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3275
To: TIM WENAS Date: 09/18/93 8:02p
Subj: What Is "Mpc-compatible Refer: NONE
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Hi Tim!
On 09-15-93 Tim Wenas wrote to Ed Turnock...
TW> Um.... I believe that an MPC compatible PC is a computer that meets
TW> the "MICROSTUFFED" definition of a multimedia computer, ie: <off the
TW> top of my head>:
TW> -286 or higher, 1 mg ram, 30mg HD, 8bit sound card and some kind of
TW> CD-rom drive.
Its a little more specific than that!
1. CPU *MUST* be at least a 386SX/16!
2. CD-ROM drive *MUST* be capable of sustained 150Kbps transfer rate at
<40% CPU utilisation & have an average seek of <1 second (1000ms).
TW> BTW, anyone got any advice or comments on the Panasonic /Creative
TW> Labs CD-ROM drives?
Ny advice is *BUY ONE*..... I think its the best thing since the 486DX2/66!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3276
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 8:07p
Subj: Sony 535 Speedup Refer: NONE
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Hi Brice!
On 09-10-93 Brice Fleckenstein wrote to Rj Kulman...
BF> >BM>After Talking to Sony and Trantor Systems (formerly Adaptek) I was
BF> told
BF>
BF> > the other way around...Adaptec is TRANTOR
BF>
BF> Unless somethng happened VERY recently, both Adaptec and Trantor are
BF> independent companies.
Mid-July is recent??
I was at a local symposium held by the Aust Distributor for Adaptec and
they had some of the Adaptec staff there.....
One question asked was -
"What did Adaptec think of the DB-25 connector being used by some
companies as their SCSI connector rather than the 50pin Centronics type
connector?".
The Adaptec techo's answer was -
"Since we've bought Trantor, we think its fine!"
Hope this adds some info for your files!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3277
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/18/93 8:15p
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpr Refer: NONE
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Hi Brian!
On 09-14-93 Brian Rychlicki wrote to All...
BR> I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to
BR> install a CD562B onto my system which is a 386DX40,
BR> coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram, and a Sound Blaster Pro. No luck
BR> reading disks.
BR>
BR> The hardware installation went very quick since "they" say that it
BR> plugs directly into the SBPRO.
It does... Take my word for it.... I have seen/touched one connected to
an SB Pro 2 and a mate at work has one connected to an SB Pro 1 (Mine's
connected to an SB 16 ASP).....
BR> We then installed the audio cable
BR> into the SBPro. The Drive number was set to "0" on the
BR> 562B. The installation disk supplied was a COMPRO disk
BR> which appeared to be very quick and simple by selecting the
BR> 562B drive with the SBPRO.
What device driver?? CDMKE.SYS or SBCD.SYS.... If you're trying to use
SBPCD.SYS then you'll have a lot of trouble!
BR> The dealer said it could be my motherboard, which I doubt.
Highly unlikely...
BR> Please help by providing some ideas or solutions. Thanks in Advance.
As I said, check the device driver in CONFIG.SYS....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3278
To: STEVE MANN Date: 09/18/93 8:34p
Subj: Cl Sbpro16/Cd-Rom Combo Refer: NONE
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Hi Steve!
On 09-16-93 Steve Mann wrote to Tim Wenas...
SM> > Soundblaster Pro 16
SM> > Panasonic <I think> CD-ROM drive, 300kb/s, multi-speed double
SM> > thing Bookshelf, Sherlock holmes, voice recognition softs and
SM> > about 3 other CDs all for about $799 Aust.
SM>
SM> My question to you is where did you find the price of $799 for this
SM> kit. I have checked out all over Sydney and have found prices
SM> ranging from $850 to $1300. I would appreciate it if you
SM> could netmail me with any of the details (Shop, address,
SM> phone, prices etc.).
Try Meghead at Chatswood - talk to Karl..... (02) 415-3355
1 Railway St, Chatswood, NSW, 2067.....
They have the SB CD 16 Discovery kit there for around the $A799.00....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3279
To: STEVE MANN Date: 09/18/93 8:39p
Subj: Where to buy SB16/MM upg Refer: NONE
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Steve!
On 09-16-93 Steve Mann wrote to All...
SM> Can anyone recommend a particular SB kit and where to buy
SM> it for a reasonable price.
If all else fails, talk to Creative Pacific (previously ComputaMart)
in Artarmon. The're the Aussie distributor for this stuff....
SB CD16 Discovery Kit $A 799.00
SB CD16 Performance Kit $A 999.00
SB CD16 Premium Kit $A1199.00
The only difference is the number of CD-ROMs in the kits!
SM> Note: In my previous message I am replying to Tim Wenas who
SM> writes from Melbourne that a similar kit can be bought for
SM> $799. This sounds good to me.
I also replied to your earlier msg....
Cheers!
o
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To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/18/93 6:51a
Subj: Q'S On These New Panason Refer: NONE
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From: POE LIM Number: 3281
To: GREG MCDONELL Date: 09/18/93 9:29p
Subj: Echo Rules Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Greg,
On Sep 13 10:04 in a msg to Poe Lim, Greg Mcdonell of 3:711/920 wrote:
> Hi Poe, seems I've just been volunteered for something 8-)
I thought from your message you were willing to bring it in. <shrug>
> Seriously tho', I was expressing support as a regular reader, I do
> not operate a BBS of any kind, and am not really set up to be a mail
> hub.
Leave the expensive bit to others eh? <g> As it is, the message content is just
right, with no long ads, which may not be the same in the CDROM ads echo, so we
get a possible doubling of traffic (I wonder how many messages it generates),
and hence cost.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3282
To: JAMES REAMES JR Date: 09/18/93 9:35p
Subj: Re: 7th Guest Refer: NONE
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Hello James,
On Sep 13 18:26 in a msg to Russell Hardie, James Reames Jr of 1:124/6302
wrote:
> you are correct.. The first versions of 7Th Guest had problems with
> VESA and the SVGA gfx... Try calling a bbs and look for the newset
> update. Then it should work ok..
Do you happen to have the date for the latest fix? I tried one with files dated
5/93, and am still having problems with voice, and it dies at the start (where
you face the stairs).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3283
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/18/93 9:42p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Sep 14 20:40 in a msg to Michael Cooper, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> You'd be disappointed with the throughput of a SCSI CD-ROM after
> seeing a CR562B in action!
I really have to try this bit out; must get a 562B and run it against my 3401
to rate throughput. And I wonder how would the CR-503 compare; it would be the
easiest solution as I don't have to get a new soundcard, and I can take 2 more
SCSI devices.
> SB 2.0 compat..) and the SB16 ASP comes out a close third with the
> option of the Wave Blaster wave table synthesis daughter card and
> will allow the attachment of a CR562B, so I went with the SB16 ASP!
> Haven't been disappointed yet!
How's the sound like for the SB16 ASP? I've read some people saying it's not
that good, and doesn't do SB Pro and you'd be better off with the PAS 16, then
others say it's pretty good. From memory you may have had the chance to compare
the two; just wondering if it's worth it going that way, or I'd be better off
with a SB Pro first, and wait for the new OPL.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3284
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/18/93 9:55p
Subj: Echo Into Zone 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Tony,
On Sep 15 13:23 in a msg to Andrew Barfoot, Tony Stott of 3:714/906 wrote:
> I have been advised by my sysop that Dave Hatch, who evidently
> brings the cdrom echo into Australia will NOT drop thi echo, and is
> considering bringing cdromsale in as well. No need to be
> concerned..
Good! At least that problem will not occur; when does Dave intend to start so
links can be set up.
> ! Origin: Coastal Communications Multiline BBS (02)977-6820
> (3:714/906)
Err, isn't Chris the Sysop? :)
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3285
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/18/93 10:14p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon,
On Sep 12 22:09 in a msg to Poe Lim, Gordon Peterson of 2:320/203 wrote:
> You're either only buying EXPENSIVE CD-ROMs, or getting your caddies
Got it in one. :) There are some specialised ROM around retailing in the $K
region; just because most CDs mentioned here are not that expensive doesn't
mean they don't exist.
BTW, re audio CDs, they are priced a *lot* cheaper than data CDs, and a scratch
doesn't do as much harm (whereas the loss of a byte may render a program
useless).
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3286
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/18/93 10:18p
Subj: New Mpc Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon,
On Sep 13 10:12 in a msg to Tony Stott, Gordon Peterson of 2:320/203 wrote:
> If a "standard" isn't to mean anything, then clearly the users have
> no reason to worry about whether or not they buy a system that
> conforms to a "standard". Of course technology and capability will
Standard means a lot; at least with MPC1 and MPC2, buyers will *know* if their
setup will be able to cope with that new latest greatest program on ROM, and
have something to aim for. It's no good buying a program that requires MPC2
when you don't have the necessary hardware. As to standards changing, yes, they
have to up the ante as hardware prices decline, and user demands increase;
there is nothing wrong with that as there is a new, or new level, of the
standard, and not a re-definition of a standard (as you seem to imply). DOS 1
was a standard (yes, even DOS can be seen as a standard); are you saying that
we should all adhere to that, and forget things like HD etc?
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3287
To: MICHAEL BUENTER Date: 09/18/93 10:29p
Subj: Inexpensive SCSI CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Michael,
On Sep 13 17:34 in a msg to All, Michael Buenter of 2:301/602@fidonet wrote:
> I'm looking for an inexpensive SCSI CD-ROM drive for my bbs. It
> should work with OS/2 2.1.
Currently the Panasonic CR-503 would probably be the best bet as it's SCSI-2,
and thus should be able to use the the supplied CD-ROM driver.
BTW, and further work on EE?
Cheers,
Poe
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From: JOHN BAYLEY Number: 3288
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/17/93 9:38a
Subj: 7th guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Russell!
I had very much the same difficulty as you in getting 7TH GUEST to run with
the Cirrus Logic 5426 VLB card.
After much frustration and head scratching, I came up with the following
scheme:
First get a copy of the "Fix-up" files for 7th Guest which are available as an
archive called T7G_FIX or T7G124 or similar from various bulletin boards or
perhaps the distributer. (I think I got my copy from The Software Works BBS in
Melb.) It is also on Night Owls 9 CDROM I think. These contain fixes to cure a
couple of common crashes ("Sound buffer failure" etc in the original game and
to allow it to run properly with Cirrus cards which have a VESA driver in ROM.
Uncompress these files into some convenient temp directory, say \T7G_FIX.
From the install disc (disc 2) run the Paradise VESA driver. It should install
OK with no visible ill effects if your video board is similar to mine.
Now run the install programme. It should report a VESA video card and happily
install the game to the ID\T7G\ directory.
With that done, copy all the files from your temp T7G_FIX directory into the
ID\T7G directory. These will replace some of the originals.
Now REBOOT your PC. This will remove the Paradise VESA driver which was only
loaded to fool the install programme.
Go to the ID\T7G dir and type T7G. Everything should run like a charm!
An alternative method is to do a standard install, then edit the file
GROOVIE.INI in the ID\T7G dir to change the video type from UNKNOWN to VESA.
You still need the fix-up files, of course.
It all worked for me, I hope it does for you too!
John.
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From: TOM BULUM Number: 3289
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/16/93 9:03a
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Gaetano Calia about Re: Panasonic CD
drive<=-
RE> Hi Gaetano!
RE>
RE> On 09-08-93 Gaetano Calia wrote to Rowan Evans...
GC> RE> What version of SBCD.SYS? There is a version 4.11 driver around
GC> RE> (off Compuserve) that hangs on a mate's machine and two that I've
GC> RE> tried it on.......
GC>
GC> i. Did you wait long enough?
RE>
RE> Yep.... It was a corrupt .SYS file.... The distributor re-posted it a
RE> few days later and it works fine now!
GC> I just installed Version 4.11 and it indeed seems that the
GC> system hangs for some seconds, but then it boots
GC> on no problemo. The older driver was faster. Is that a bug or a
GC> feature ?
RE>
RE> Depends on what you're looking at... The 4.0 SBCD.SYS was plenty
RE> fast, but would "jerk" in T7G when moving & playing sound... 4.10
RE> beta & 4.11 appear to have fixed the problem.....
RE>
Hiya Rowan,
I've got SBCD.SYS V4.11 but I use another file, SBPCD_V2.SYS which is version
2.00 . Any ideas which one is better?
Tom.
... Windows: A colourful clown suit for DOS.
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From: SOPH PETROU Number: 3290
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 4:04p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
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Hi All,
Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy chained off a SOUND
GALAXY NXPRO?
THANX IN ADVANCE, SOPH.......
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From: GUY OMER Number: 3291
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/12/93 9:41a
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Sam,
Please be so kind as to send your CD-ROM list(s) to:
Guy Omer - 3957 NW 9th CT - Gainesville, FL 32605-4713
I'm a SpitFire sysop and am -always- looking for new/best CD's for my
system. Clearly CD's with SFFILES.BBS 'work' best for me. Please also note:
price <drat> is also important.
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From: GUY OMER Number: 3292
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 10:42a
Subj: Catalog...please Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please be so kind as to send CD-ROM/hardware 'list(s)' to:
Guy Omer
3957 NW 9th Court
Gainesville, FL 32605-4713
PS: If possible, please, 'mark' CD's that are BBS ready for my SpitFire BBS
<smile>. s/ guy
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 3293
To: MARK ALBACHII?? Date: 09/18/93 2:51a
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
looking tt purchase noghtowl #9 please send info! thanx!
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 3294
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/17/93 9:13a
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Bob Hall wrote in a message to All:
BH> See... 10 lines.
Well at this end it came out as only 9 lines - so you continue to be on the
side of the angels.
Cheers,
Pam
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From: PAM TEMPLE Number: 3295
To: ALL SELLING CDS Date: 09/17/93 9:17a
Subj: Origin & currency Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Since a lot of origin lines do not provide location and almost nobody states
what currency the prices are in (all assuming I suppose US$) may I humbly
suggest that either the location of the seller and/or the specifics of the
currency be posted along with the list of CDs for sale? Please. In Canada we
have to add about 20% to get the real cost to us for USA originating CDs, and
get out the calculator for anywhere else.
Cheers,
Pam
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3296
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 2:30p
Subj: Sony's Duals Refer: NONE
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How much do those SONY dual drives go for and what do they come with?
How fast, access time? Can I hook it up to my existing computer that has
2 HDs and an external cd already?
An acquaintance of mine picked up a NEW one at a local swap meet for
150.00, is this a good price?
Any help would be appreciated.
Adrian Salas
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From: CHRIS MOORE Number: 3297
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/17/93 10:27a
Subj: CD BENCHMARKING SOFTWARE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Rowan
I replied to your message way back in July about the CD-ROM benchmarking
software, but recently found that some of my echomail has been going into
a black hole somewhere.
RE> On 07-14-93 Chris Moore wrote to Steve Lin...
RE>
RE> CM> > Does anybody have a good CD-ROM benchmarking program? CDTA
RE> CM> > doesn't cut it.
RE> CM>
RE> CM> I have one on my BBS called CDSPEED.ZIP (about 77K). Feel
RE> CM> free to FREQ it. I don't know how good it is, but it takes
RE> CM> a long time to run and spews out lots of numbers.
RE>
RE> Is there any way you can send this file to Australia (apart from the
RE> Post Orifice???)..... I don't think that the BBS I'm attached to allows
RE> File Attach or FREQ.....
If you want to send me a snail mail address, I'll put a diskette in the
mail. If I may, I'll also send you information about our health & safety
CD-ROMs. (I work for the Canadian Centre for Occupational Health and
Safety). I'd appreciate it if you post the files on your local BBS (I
take it from the name "Medical MAX", that this is a medically-oriented
BBS(?)) and pass the information on to whomever you think would find it
useful.
Chris
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3298
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 6:37p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
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Hello Adrian!
Can you send a Catalog to:
Dominique Perron
DomTech
P.B. #76012
Aylmer, PQ, Canada
J9H 4P1
Thanks
Cheers
Dom
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3299
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/18/93 9:26a
Subj: NIGHT OWL 9 SPECIALS Refer: NONE
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-> Give what a rest? Not trying to contradict you Doug, I just wanted t
-> know which CD's you were referring to that had newer files than Night
-> 9. Like I said, I wasn't aware of any 3 weeks ago but that doesn't m
-> there weren't any. Just thought you might have some new *goodies* th
-> haven't seen yet. 8)
Night Owl 9 is very good and not many have newer files but give So Much
Shareware III a try. I found a lot of new files that were not on Night
Owl. Also, the "Heaven" series has a lot of new releases but from what I
see they are not BBS ready.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3300
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/18/93 9:32a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is there
-> latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble with
-> the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks but
-> connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with t
-> cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put of t
-> sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there wit
-> this set-up that might have had this problem and solved it. AKA - Cou
-> it be a bad drive, interface card, Ecte, or am I just hooking it up
-> wrong. Thanks in advance for any help! :)
Check you set blaster line in the autoexec.bat file. A lot of people
dont realize the audio volumn is controlled there for the sound blaster
card. Also, If you are using the patch cord that came with your sound
blaster, make sure the little audio cable is installed on the back of
the cd-rom drive and the interface card.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3301
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 9:36a
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
-> and mailing address I can send you a list.
Do you have ones and twos or larger quanities?
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3302
To: MARK ROUND Date: 09/18/93 9:40a
Subj: WANTED ON CD : D.O.T.T. & Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Does anybody have D.O.T.T. (DAY OF THE TENTACLE) for sale on CD?
We have Day Of The Tentacle 2 on CD and it throws in version 1 on the cd
as a bonus. The price is 39.99 and you can reach us at S.E.C. Custom
Computers, 502-448-9397.
Also, the rug you are talking about is a map of the maze downstairs.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3303
To: PADDY DRURY Date: 09/18/93 9:43a
Subj: Re: Kodak Photo CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> What you need is someone to take in the film and give back the cdrom
Try WalMart. They are offering the Kodak photo CD as well as the regular
drop off film choices. Also, have you tried Tempra access software? Its
MUCH better that Kodaks version because it allows you to save the new
created images on your harddrive in all the formats but also lets you
reload the newly saved images where kodak does not.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3304
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/18/93 10:04a
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
It COULD be your motherboard. I have had SEVERAL 386DX40 computers that
have had problems accessing CD-Roms. Not just the Panasonic, but Sony,
NEC, Mitsumi, and others. It has to do with the AMD 386DX40 and the
chipset on the motherboard. Every time I have had problems, I have
changed the chipset on the motherboard to OPTI and no problems. BTW, the
most problems were noticed with the Forex chipset.
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From: BENNY FOSTER Number: 3305
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 10:09a
Subj: CD-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
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Anyone know of good sorces for the Panasonic CD-Rom drives (CR-562)? I
am looking for aprox 10-20 at a time. I am also always looking for new
and good sorces for CD-Rom disks. Any help would be appreciated.
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 3306
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/18/93 6:20a
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-New Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <14 Sep 93 13:11:00>, Lee Noga (1:3618/23) writes:
>Before you try to ride me out of dodge, Bob said I could mention that the
>new, "Busty Babes Vol II" will be ready for dealers to ship around 1st
>week of October--This new never before seen disc, is alot tamer consists
>of 1,000 original images, 200 MB shareware, 200 text stories as added
>bonus--All california models-- ***** BBS READY ***** --, Consists of
>swimsuit, topless, bottomless, girls with girls, wet t-shirts, teasers,
>full frontal nudity, waist-up shots--Very few "XXX" ones, but there are a
>few...
Sounds good to me..
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 3307
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 6:28a
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of <10 Sep 93 15:35:00>, Brice Fleckenstein (1:231/190) writes:
>Unless somethng happened VERY recently, both Adaptec and Trantor are
>independent companies.
About a month or so ago Adaptec bought Trantor.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3308
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 08/30/93 8:30a
Subj: Re: CDROM forsale Refer: NONE
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GMJ>Sorry to barge in, but that Pan. 562B seems EXACTLY the
GMJ>same as a NEC I saw advertised some time ago, price
GMJ>included. Is it the same? Could you PLEASE,
GMJ>PLEEEEEEAAASSSEE tell me all there is to know about that
GMJ>specific drive and how it goes with a Sound Blaster Pro?
If you have SB Pro and want to hook direct with CDROM. You have to buy
the Panasonic.
The 562B is new model just come out. It is very popular because it has
double transfer rate and Kodak + Multisession compatible.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3309
To: NICK FUNK Date: 08/30/93 8:30a
Subj: Panasonic 562 & Pro Stud Refer: NONE
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NF>Does anyone know if the new ProAudio Studio 16 by MediaVision SCSI port
NF>will work with the Panasonic CR-562 double speed drive. An if so are
The Pana is not SCSI therefore will not direct hook up with PAS 16
however the Pana 562 does come with its controller, it will work with
PAS 16 via audio hook up.
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3310
To: SETH KLINE Date: 08/30/93 8:30a
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SK>Does anyone have a CD-ROM for sale? I would like it cheap
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$195.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$279.
CD-ROM MicroSolution Parallel port 350ms 128k cache caddyless..$369.*
CD-ROM Texel DM-3024 SCSI, 265ms, 300k/sec transfer, 64k cache $399.
CD-ROM Toshiba MX3401b SCSI drive,Kodak comp.200ms, 256k cache $439.*
Creative Lab Discovery 8. CD-ROM + SB Pro + 3 CDs + Speakers...$399.*
Creative Lab Discovery 16. CD-ROM+ SB 16 + 3 CDs + Speakers...$459.*
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3311
To: SETH KLINE Date: 08/30/93 8:30a
Subj: CD's Refer: NONE
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SK>How much do good game CD's cost? Like some good Sierra
SK>games like SP4, PQ4 etc? Please get back to me.
TRUC 16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 fax 310-402-7240
Call 310-602-2076 8am-12pm, 6pm-9pm PST ask Wee Yung.
King's Quest V..................$19* Kodak Photo access..............$19*
Sitmel 20....Sharewares.........$19* Stellar 7 game..................$19*
Space Quest IV game by Sierra...$25 Space Adventure.................$39
US Atlas & AutoMap..............$29 Vital Signs MPC/ Mac only.......$89
Whale of Tale...................$89 Who Killed Sam Rupert?..........$39*
World View......................$19* World Atlas V. 3.2 MPC..........$19*
Willy Beamish - The adventure...$25 Wizard game Dos/Mac.............$19*
Wing Commander/ Secret Mission..$29 Wing Commander & Ult VI.........$35
Add $3 for shipping and handling. No exchange for difference titles.
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From: DAVID RICE Number: 3312
To: GRANT BEATTIE Date: 09/10/93 10:36p
Subj: CD with only gifs Refer: NONE
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Hello Grant!
01 Sep 93, Grant Beattie writes to Eric Ho:
GB> Hi Eric:
GB> I'm intested in getting a shareware CD that can be used with REMOTE ACCESS
GB> easily (without modification). do you know of any ones that have an
GB> emphasis on GIF files or completely filled with GIF's? That'd be great.
I am also interesed in one full of GIFs. What is the with the best quality
images. It must contain only G-Rated images. I do not need BBS compatability.
David
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3313
To: MICHAEL MULCAHY Date: 09/11/93 8:43a
Subj: FAMOUS PLACES CD Refer: NONE
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-> I am looking for a MAC CDROM entitled "Famous Places" by Jasmine Mult
-> Publishing. Request pricing and shipping info..tks...m2
I have this disc, it retails for $99.95. I'll sell it to you for
$75.00 plus $4.00 S&H.
Neil Bergman
1206 S. Holt Ave. #1
Los Angeles, Ca 90035
Phone: (310) 652-2858
Fax: (310) 652-2608
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3314
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/18/93 9:29a
Subj: Contests Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
-=> Quoting Bob Hall to Lee Noga <=-
BH> I still want tickets (front row seats) to the great pissing contest.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Puts a whole new slant on Tony the Tiger, doesn't it?
BH> BOB
BH> :-)<--== wearing a tie today.
^^^^^^^^
I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that
claimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know
about it, do you?
... On the subject of SEX: I'm in favor of it.
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3315
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 9:32a
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Edward Tushar <=-
BF> * SLMR 2.1a * I love my country. I FEAR my government....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Me, Too. But I'm workin' on it! Shouldn't (no, DOESN'T) have to be this
way!
... Blue-shifted: The way to travel ...
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 3316
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:10p
Subj: Pro-Phone V2.2 Refer: NONE
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Hello All!
latest (mid '93) 7 disk setof phone numbers for entire country completely
indexed. Will trade for shareware or what?
Regards
Langston
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From: JOHN MCCOMAS Number: 3317
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 12:12p
Subj: Quote SB 16 ASP & CR562-B Refer: NONE
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I would appreciate it if someone could tell me a
source for the best package price less than $450
Sound Blaster 16 ASP
&
Panasonic CR562-B
Thanks!
Olathe, Kansas
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3318
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 2:29p
Subj: Re: CD-ROM INTERFACES Refer: NONE
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BF> > BF> A 1542C (current Adaptec closest equivilent to the
BF> > BF> IN-2000) runs almost half
BF> > BF> again of typical IN-2000 pricing.
BF> > I got my 1742 for $300.
BF> I've never seen an IN-2000 as HIGH as $200 - typically
BF> under $180, and I paid
BF> $145 and $125 for MY pair of them.
Those are ISA boards, not EISA. I believe that a 1542C can be had for
$150 or a bit less.
BF> > The Adaptec drivers will make use of the
BF> busmastering abilities of the
BF> >controller, even under DOS.
BF> Mabey on an EISA bus, but apparently NOT under an ISA bus
BF> - and given that DOS
BF> has NO support for busmastering, I doubt that you are REALLY getting any
BF> benifit out of it under EISA.
Have you TRIED real world applications, especially multiple I/O
intensive applications? The performance increase can be more than significant.
Simple hard drive performance tests won't show the increase in performance:
you need to be processing multiple threads. DOS' ability to do this is FAR
from great, because DOS is not an Operating System, but it can and does manage
to perform standard calculations while the busmastering controller is working
in the background. OS/2 can handle a dozen simultaneous processes with no
apparent slowdown whatsoever.
BF> > BF> >but many of us know better than to stick with DOS.
BF> > BF> I have no choice, as my primary application for this
BF> machine doesn't have
BF> > BF> anything resembling an equal under any other OS.
BF> > The odds are extremely high that the application
BF> will run very well
BF> >indeed, quite possibly much better than under DOS,
BF> directly under an OS/2 VDM.
BF> It has been SHOWN to run not NEARLY as well under OS/2,
BF> due to the greater OS/2
BF> overhead if for no OTHER reason(s). TBBS doesn't like running under a
BF> multitasker at ALL, though it WILL do so - but the performance hit is
BF> SUBSTANTIAL....
This is just false. In the first place, OS/2's overhead is not that
significant, especially when one is speaking of a serial I/O program plodding
along at one interrupt every 160,000 cycles or so. OF course when one
considers that DOS does not even HAVE support for the serial ports, one wonders
why one would ever use DOS in the first place. I have *EIGHT* serial ports,
all of them just plain, old dumb serial ports with 16550 UARTs, and I can
transfer at 57,600bps full bore in eight different DOS sessions without a
hiccup. I don't recall any specific posts from TBBS users, but every
imaginable serial port utility under DOS is in use under OS/2, with little or
no degradation whatsoever.
OS/2 is not a multitasker, it is an Operating System. DOS is just a
kludge of a disk interface utility. With no measurable loss in performance, I
FREQUENTLY am writing messages, while in the background my mailer is
up/downloading at 1700CPS, concurrently with a backup tape drive doing a full
backup of my hard drive, music playing from my CD-ROM, and three printers
running full blast, printing from three separate applications, the applications
themselves often having finished their work and been shut down some time ago.
I can even start a floppy format while all that is going on, and run two or
three other serial port applications at full bore, without losing single bit,
or slowing down the transfer at all. I can even have an Ultimotion Video
running on screen from my CD-ROM while all that is going on, although I don't
recommend trying that with an ISA 386.
Les
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3319
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/18/93 2:58p
Subj: Re: OS/2 CD-ROM support Refer: NONE
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RF> > RF> comparision you made is overdone.
RF> > Not at all.
RF> (Lots of other similar stuff deleted)
RF> I'd LOVE to have answered all this stuff (I even took on a Microsoft
RF> employee once on this kind of thing, so I'll take anyone on), but it
RF> was getting way too off topic.
I agree. I'd love to continue over on OS2HW, if you like.
RF> Unfortunately, most of the stuff I *can't* reply to I disagree with you
RF> on, and most of the stuff I *can* reply to I agree with you on! :)
Life's variety is one of its greatest riches. Your contrary opinions
are valuable to me, even if only as a yardstick to my own.
RF> > True, however, if one stays with SCSI, one not only
RF> >gains the performance benefits of SCSI, one also has few
RF> >problems under OS/2.
RF> If one has it in the first place, then they can stay with it, the
RF> obvious best choice. But moving to it in the first place is not cheap,
RF> which, like the RAM prices, is probably one of the reasons many people
RF> are still staying away from OS/2. Hopefully in the future prices will
RF> continually go down here, as well.
True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay away from non-SCSI
devices". It is *VERY* expensive to dump what one already has and upgrade to
SCSI. Buying SCSI initially is not as large a hit, especially when one does
not have to buy an additional hard drive controller.
RF> It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under OS/2, go
RF> SCSI if at all possible.
It has many benefits, even under DOS, and if one upgrades to OS/2, the
path is all that much smoother. In addition, there are many devices that
really only come in SCSI, like full page scanners. One of the nicest things is
that potential conflicts between tape backups, CD-ROM drives, hard drives,
scanners, and other devices are essentially eliminated.
Les
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 3320
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/18/93 6:17p
Subj: XXX CD's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stewart,
Answering a msg of <15 Sep 93>, from Stewart Rothman to All:
Maybee I can answer a little. A pic today is usually 640x480x256colors.
While its certainly not picture quality, its still pretty good. And when you
take for granted that people want the pics, the CD Rom is the cheapest way to
go. It saves time, and space, and even discs.. and its always available.
I cannot even back up a CD for the price I can buy some with my tape backup.
Hope this helps you.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: TONY SIMMONS Number: 3321
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/17/93 9:08p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS> Thank you
AS> Adrian Salas
AS> * QMPro 1.50 00-0000 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10am-7pm
AS> PST
AS> -!- WM v3.00/91-0098
AS> ! Origin: Order CD-ROMs On-Line, UNI-ROM BBS 619.279.4774
AS> (1:202/920.0)
Hi Adrian...
I would like to recive your catalog..send it to the adress below..
thanks
Tony Simmons
520b 21 Ave Nw
Calgary,Alberta,Canada
T2M 1J7
... Catch the Blue Wave!
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From: TONY SIMMONS Number: 3322
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/17/93 9:14p
Subj: Re: cd's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Todd Ostrer to All <=-
TO> Hello: Our new Catalog. WE Ship World Wide Express Mail..
TO> DEALER CD-ROMs
TO> 09-14-93 ** MINIMUM ORDER IS 5 CD-ROMs (can mix). (Good Volume
Hi Todd...
Mail me a catalog please..Thanks
Tony Simmons
510-B 21 ave nw
Calgary,Alberta
t2m 1j7
... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so.
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From: JOE HOWES Number: 3323
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:50a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone out there use this caching program? I'm wondering if anyone
has found the optimal settings for it under Day of the Tentacle and Space
Adventure. I set it up for the Seventh Guest yesterday, but the video got so
far ahead of the sound that the system would freeze from time to time until
everything was caught up!! However, DOTT still pauses too long when sounds are
being loaded and space adventure is just kind of slow.
Thanks!
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From: ED YEE Number: 3324
To: STEVEN BALDASSARRA Date: 09/18/93 3:50p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Unit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SB> Would like to know is Mitsumi LU-005S a multi-session or multi-session
SB> unit?
Whah?????
I would help if I knew what you were trying to say.
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From: BYRON WELLS Number: 3325
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 7:04a
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Great!
Byron Wells
P.O. Box 540372
Grand Prairie, Tx. 75054-0372
Byron...
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From: CRAIG GAGNER Number: 3326
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 6:57a
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am a Tech at a local Computer Store, and we have run into a problem
with the Mitsumi Drives.
The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not work in
a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried 4 different
motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The same drive will work in
a 386 no problem.
Does anyone know what might have happened ?? I suspect they changed
there firm wear with an upgrade which has caused this problem..
Craig Gagner
Senior Tech
Grace Computers
(912) 356-1840
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 3327
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/17/93 2:58p
Subj: 7Th Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
yeah so....??? i wasnt talking about that
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From: JANUSZ SUROWKA Number: 3328
To: GIULIANO MACIOCCI JR. Date: 09/17/93 2:59p
Subj: DOS 6.0 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
yeah your right... that would be good multitasking version of DOS
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From: JOHN CALLICRATE Number: 3329
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/13/93 2:36a
Subj: Adaptec and CDR-501 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have EZ-SCSI software (original), ver 1.0, for sale. $50.00
Call me at 503/623-4924 in evenings (Pacific time).
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From: JURRIE HOBERS Number: 3330
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 7:11p
Subj: Dutch cd-rommers.... Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello!
I am looking for Dutch cd-rom people who are also interested in
buyind cd-roms....!!!
If you are, call me: 05910-44828 (Only for people in The
Netherlands)
Alleen voor de Nederlanders dus!
GreetinX!
Jurrie!
... Why look at the DOCS if there are nurses........?
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From: DAVID RICE Number: 3331
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 1:31p
Subj: GIFs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have been looking
everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give me pricing on it too if you
can. Thanks in advance.
David
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From: LEANDRO BRAZ Number: 3332
To: ALL Date: 09/14/93 2:40p
Subj: CDs para Medicina Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Alguem conhece alguma boa Enciclopedia Medica em CD-ROM? Estou interessado em
adquirir uma, mas conheco apenas a Med-Line. O investimento e alto e quero
comprar a melhor que puder.
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From: RODOLFO VAZ Number: 3333
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/17/93 9:58a
Subj: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO> nor offer any price comparisions. It will strickly be so our friends in
BO> Canada will be able to place an order without any international long
BO> distance costs.
OH God ... We (Brazilians) don't have this benefit :(((
Hi Boris,
did you get my NETMAIL ? Well, I've got your NETMAILs (both),
but I was on a trip (working in Sao Paulo), so I just sent the reply two
days later ... O.K. ? I'm waiting for the CDs ...
Oh, if possible, send a complete catalog with the CDs, O.K. ?
BO> Boris Osadciw
Thanks for your VERY VERY VERY fast reply !
Rodolfo Vaz
NC806
... Brazil mail in U.S.A. ! From Brasilia, Capital of Brazil !
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From: MARCILIO BARBOSA Number: 3334
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/14/93 10:54p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #4: CD-ROM LIQUIDATION! |
>Gigabyte Gold.......$19 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 House of Games......$20
>Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
>Original S/W 1993...$10 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Jedi Collection.....$39
>Lion's Share........$19 Clipart Galore......$25 Reel Clips..........$35
>Windoware...........$10 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22 Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
>Return to the Moon..$26 Find-It Webster.....$38 Great Wonders.......$32
MS> STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
> VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
>---
I would like to get some CD-ROM. How to do?
I live in Brazil.
Thanks.
Marcilio Barbosa
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From: MARCILIO BARBOSA Number: 3335
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/14/93 11:05p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SB>DFW Discount Electronics 09/11/93 Orders: 800-829-0331
> Local : 214-254-0331
>CD-ROM Price List BBS : 214-259-4188
SB> * = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS
SB>Shareware
>~~~~~~~~~
>* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00
> and many other formats. For most desktop publishing
> programs.
SB>Clip Art
>~~~~~~~~
> GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for $19.00
> MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.
SB> LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure, $29.00
> You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the
> Great Guilds.
I'm interested in these CD-ROM above. Would charge my VISA card? I live
in Brazil.
Thanks,
Marcilio Barbosa
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3336
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 6:35p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NEIL BERGMAN wrote in a message to ALL:
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
Could you send me a complete list please
DomTech
P.B. #76012
Aylmer, PQ Canada
J9H 4P1
Thx.
Cheers
Dom
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From: DOMINIQUE PERRON Number: 3337
To: ADIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 6:37p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Adian!
Can you send a Catalog to:
DomTech
P.B. #76012
Aylmer, PQ, Canada
J9H 4P1
THx
Cheers
Dom
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3338
To: SCOTT DAVIS Date: 09/16/93 3:24p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF>Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs
>BF>from this echo?
>No.. but I am curious.. WHY?!?
It appears to have a LOT (everything) to do with the fact that Bob is a
"neighbor" of Tony Davis's....
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3339
To: RUSSELL BOYCE Date: 09/16/93 4:01p
Subj: MITSUMI CD ROM DRIVE; SOU Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>The sound galaxy NX pro plus card has two proprietary AT interfaces for both
>Panasonic and Mitsumi drives
Will it run both of those drives at once?
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From: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Number: 3340
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/16/93 4:41p
Subj: YOUR TAGLINE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>humorous part is that us folks in Australia don't even remember who Clinton
>beat...
George Bush and H. Ross Perot and Andre Morreu were the other "in all 50
states" candidates (Republican, "independent", and Libertarian parties
respectively).
* SLMR 2.1a * Clinton didn't WIN in 92 - he just LOST by the least....
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From: PAM NOVAK Number: 3341
To: ALL Date: 08/31/93 9:15p
Subj: LUPAS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Lupas foundation of america, 1-800-558-0121;24hours to request imformation
packet) ; 301-670-9292; 9am to 5pm,weekdays except hollidays (to speak to a
staff member).
Health education speacialists about this chronic inflammatory disease and offer
imformation about your local lupas foundation chapter,which can provide you
with rferals to physicians. Hope this helps.
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From: PAM NOVAK Number: 3342
To: GAIL HITSON Date: 08/31/93 9:27p
Subj: Finacial help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
When I first lost my job due to illnes I went to the social workers office at a
local hospital and they told me a lot of ways to get help. Plus most county
hospitals can not turn you down just because you can not afford insurance .It
is not easy but,tell them your situation and request a financial forebearance
form a lot of bills I had ran up have been written off because I filled out
these forms .I wish with all my heart I could pay them all back someday but,I
also know that If you are ill you are the most important person you have and
you have to find a way to get better. Hang in there I am and hoping things get
better soon.
sincerely Pam
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From: PAM NOVAK Number: 3343
To: MARVIN Date: 08/31/93 9:35p
Subj: Low blood sugar Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
THe best way to fight low blood sugar is to eat 6 to 8 small meals a day. Make
sure especially for breakfast you eat a small amount of protien even a
tablespoon of peanut butter will help. I used to try to eat a candybar as a
quick fix but , the doctors and registered dieticians sat me down and told me
that doesn't do a lot of good the energy from simple sugar is used up to fast
plus it increases your inslin level. they told me I should concentrate on
eating high carbohydrate foods like baked potatoes , bread and popcorn instead
of the quick candy bar or real orange juice and I have noticed a big
difference.
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From: PAM NOVAK Number: 3344
To: GAIL HITSON Date: 08/31/93 10:09p
Subj: Neurological disorders Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
National Institute of Nurological Disorders and Stroke,1-800-352-9424; 8:30
a.m.to 5p.m.weekdays except hollidays.call for imformation on neurological
disorders like stroke, epilepsy Parkinson's disease,Lymes,and spinal cord
injuries. Gives referals to support groups.and other orginizations.
If you are wanting lots of imformation on lymes disease request was what is
called a "a silver platter search '' Ithink that is what it si called its been
a while since I have had them do a search on everything that is available for
the subject .I hope this helps.
Heart disease
Arizona Heart Institute& Foundation's heartline;1-800-345-hart;11:00a.m.to
8p.m.weekdays except hollidays
Cardiovascular nurse specialists answer questions and send you imformation
about heart diseas and related conditions.
As lymes can effect your heart.
American Heart association 1-800-AHA-USA-1
9a.m to 5p.m. all time Zones. For answers to heart disease questions.and acess
to your local heart chapters.
Hope this helps
Pam
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3345
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/18/93 12:02p
Subj: EDO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KS> * Origin: Tokyo PC Club BBS +81 (3) (6:730/16.0)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Where are you located, Kevin? I did time in Takanawa and a couple of
years on Nihonkai - in Toyama. What do you do?
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From: TIM PEETERS Number: 3346
To: JON DERAGON Date: 09/18/93 8:59a
Subj: Sound cards and cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Jon!
Tuesday September 14 1993 23:09, Jon Deragon wrote to Tim Wenas:
JD> rave reviews for both the ProStudioSpectrum and the SB16asp its really
JD> hard to say, I think compatibility wise for SB software you woulf d go for
JD> just that. Although I have only had minor problems with my PAS. There is a
JD> PAS kit you may be interested in most definately, which includes a PAS
JD> card, the NEC CDR-84-I I was talking about, and some hot CD-ROMS INCLUDING
JD> 7th GUEST, (DING DING!!!), so you may want to try that one, I know you can
JD> get it through MicroArts Melbourne.
Anyone have incompatiability problems with QEMM/DESQview and the SoundBlaster
SB16 card?
BeSeeingYa,
Tim
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From: RICK POTTS Number: 3347
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 8:57p
Subj: Thunder board and toshiba Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've seen various messages here talking about ways to run sound from
CD-ROM's to various sound baords, but I haven't seen anyone talk
specifically about using a Thunder Board with a CD-ROM. I'd like to buy
a CD-ROM (and I'm leaning strongly toward the Toshiba 3401b), but I
really don't want to buy another sound board if I can make it work with
my existing Thunder Board. Can it be done? Or do I have to pull the
Thunder Board and put in something else (like the PAS 16) to make it
work?
Thanks in advance....
Rick
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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Number: 3348
To: BERT BURLAND Date: 09/19/93 2:22a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD Rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BB> when jumping from widely spaced directories. The Mitsumi works just
BB> fine on smaller disc around 450 Megs but goes out to lunch on the
BB> large ones. Look around for a better drive if Your going to be
BB> accessing big disc and more so for a BBS with big old bbs ready
BB> shareware disc loaded.
BB> The Dealers will tell You otherwise because they are selling them
BB> right and left. I run a BBS and have gone through it Bubba.
Hey, Bert. Thanks a lot for the very detailed information. I was asking
this for a friend and am sure he will appreciate it very much. Hope I
can help you in some way some day.
... See ya later. -Mac-
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3349
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: COVER CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>it's a royal PAIN to get a disc into a "Sony-style" caddy without
BF>scratching it!
Not if you have an opposable thumb. 8)
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3350
To: ROB LIBRIZZI Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RL>Hey Mike what are the specials this week for us NON BBS Sysops. I mean
CD's
Well Rob, here are a few we have on sale right now:
Gigabyte Gold.......$19 Powerpak Gold 3.0...$15 Phoenix 4.0.........$22
Compton's Interact..$95 US Wars: Korea......$29 US Wars: Des. Storm.$29
Original S/W 1993...$10 Phoenix 3.0.........$12 Jedi Collection.....$39
Lion's Share........$19 Clipart Galore......$25 Reel Clips..........$35
Windoware...........$10 Fantazia Fonts/Snds.$22 Ham Radio 3.0.......$10
Return to the Moon..$26 Find-It Webster.....$38 Great Wonders.......$32
Gimme a call if you're interested in any of them: 509-457-2892. .\\ike
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3351
To: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GRL>I'm looking for anyone who has any of the advertised national residential
GRL>telephone directory on CD. I believe they come in a set of 3 or so. I see
GRL>that DAK is advertising their set for $149. What other companies is
selling
GRL>this type of disk(s) and what is their price?
Guy,
We have two in stock: ProPhone 1993 (7 CD's) at $99, and PhoneDisc USA
1993, which is $69. ProPhone covers the entire white and yellow pages,
while PhoneDisc is only residential, although there is a separate business
edition available at the same price.
If you'd like to discuss these further, please don't hesitate to call!
Later,
.\\ike
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * PO BOX 8160 * YAKIMA WA 98908 * 509-457-2892 (VOICE)
VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 up to 5 pcs / $.50 ea pc over 5
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From: MIKE SHANNON Number: 3352
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:56p
Subj: TOP 5 NEW CD-ROM TITLES! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
| Starvector Sales Bulletin #2: TOP 5 NEW CD TITLES |
SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD * Totally new shareware w/ no dupes to Vault 2!....$25
>FIREARMS REFERENCE * Details on 600+ guns w/ 256-color images..........$30
PHOENIX 4.0 * Finally - An update to 3! Very clean CD with fresh files.$22
SHAREWARE EXPLORER * New shareware 4-pak w/ less than 1% dupes!........$54
SHAREWARE ONLINE #2 * Brand new w/ pure 1993 files! The NEWEST s/w CD!.$35
STARVECTOR SOFTWARE * VISA * MC * AMEX * DISCOVER * SHIPPING: $4 to 5 pcs.
509-457-2892 (VOICE) * 509-457-2966 (FAX) * 1-800-767-1284 (ORDERS ONLY!!)
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From: KEVIN KENISTON Number: 3353
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 9:52a
Subj: Wanted: External kit for Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'm trying to convert my internal CD drive (NEC CDR-84) to an external
unit. NEC makes the cases, but evidently does not sell them separately.
Anyone knowing of some who has converted their external unit to internal
and wants to get rid of the case, or anyone knowing of someplace to get
some sort of external kit, please call me at:
Kevin Keniston
(619) 672-8851
The case does not have to be from NEC, but must be guaranteed to take an
NEC CDR-84.
Thanx in advance
* QMPro 1.51 * Take pot to the beach; leave no tern unstoned.
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From: KEVIN KENISTON Number: 3354
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 9:55a
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Yes, I would like to receive your catalog by return mail ....(sounds
like a commercial, eh?)
Kevin Keniston
11341-G Avenida de los Lobos
San Diego, CA 92127
Thanks
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From: DONNIE RAYNOR Number: 3355
To: PAT RICKERSON Date: 09/19/93 1:21p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Pat Rickerson to Donnie Raynor <=-
PR> I will offer $160, I know I just offered $150, but I thought $160
PR> would be a better offer 512-939-9822 any time!
PR> Pat
PR> -!- GoldED 2.40
PR> ! Origin: Thin Ice BBS * Corpus Christi, Texas (1:160/9)
Pat, I have considered your offer and here is what I am willing to do.
It will probably cost close to 10 bucks to ship to Texas. I'll eat that
but, I will have to get $165 for the drive. If you are interested drop
me a line so I can be looking for your money order.
... Sorry, the Dog ate my Blue Wave packet.
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From: RON HAYS Number: 3356
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 1:08a
Subj: CD Librarian Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have any good suggestions for a good, easy to use cd librarian to
keep track of what's on which cd, check for dupe's. etc. A couple of cd's I
have have such lousy programs on them, that I ended up using List, or
CD Menu from the Powerpack gold CD, but still don't have what I want. Thanks
Ron Hays
... A clean desk is a sign of a cluttered desk drawer.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3357
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/17/93 4:48a
Subj: Re: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Bob!,
-> Do your users log on to the tune of "The Wild Blue Yonder"?? Would se
-> a natural!
No, could you expound on this? Do you mean like an ANSI tune? That would
be great! Didn't know such a thing was possible.
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3358
To: ROGER SMITH Date: 09/18/93 10:40p
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Roger!,
-> And about that time cheap CDROM recorders hit the market and the pira
-> a field day. :-}
->
-> I'm kind of afraid of the price of recordable CDROM drives and media
-> down since companies will be afraid to put alot of data on CDROMs if
-> can be copied easily and inexpensively.
Then we'll be back to the copy protection again..... What a pain!
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From: GARY MEADOR Number: 3359
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 5:51p
Subj: PRICES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking to possibly a cd-rom drive for my 286 based processor. What would
be the best for this processor and how much will it cost me. I am looking for a
cd that is not very expensive. It can either be internal or external. Thanks
from Gary Meador.
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3360
To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 09/19/93 11:12a
Subj: CD players Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Terry!
I need help I bought 2 CD player's from someone maybe you. Any way I payed $99
for cd Player and $60 for controller and LOVE IT! Ned to try and locate some
more!!!!!! If you know who it was please reply got them about a month or so ago
thank's for any help!! 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: NEIL HARFERT Number: 3361
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 2:33a
Subj: GATEWAY 2000 CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi y'all. I'm looking at a new Gateway 2000 486, and am debating a CD-ROM.
The problem is, I don't know anything about CD-ROM drives -- what to look for,
which ones are good, etc. If someone could fill me in on the basics I'd really
appreciate it!
THANKS!
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From: NEIL HARFERT Number: 3362
To: BRIAN CUKRNOW Date: 09/19/93 2:56a
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Brian-
I'm about to purchase a 486/50v system and will probably get a CD-ROM with the
deal. I'm into entertainment programs, and would like a little info on 7th
Guest. All I know right now is that it utilizes a 16-bit sound-card! Please
give me a description of the game so that I can decide whether or not to order
it. Is $55 a good price?, or can I find it cheaper elsewhere. THX!
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 3363
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 11:33a
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DFW Discount Electronics 09/1993 Orders: 800-829-0331
Local : 214-254-0331
CD-ROM Price List BBS : 214-259-4188
* = Indicates file listing available for download via our BBS
CD-ROM Drive
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mitsumi Int. CD-ROM 350ms Kit w/adapter (non-SCSI) 193.00
Shareware
~~~~~~~~~
* CLIPART GOLIATH (4/93 by Chestnut): Over 11,000 PCX, TIF, $15.00
and many other formats. For most desktop publishing
programs.
* DR. GAMES (6/93, BBS Ready, by Aces Research, Inc.): $19.00
Adventure, Arcade, Card Games, Chess, Flights, Puzzles,
Simulators, Sports, Strategy, Tetris, Wars, Windows
Games, and much more.
* GAMES 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer Broker): $19.00
Over 6,000 files including Apogee games, unprotects,
tips, Tetris clones, lotto, casino, sports, VGA arcade,
Flight Simulators.
* NIGHT OWL 9 (6/93, BBS Ready, by Night Owl Publisher): $27.00
Great disc!
PC SIG 12 (3/93, by PC SIG): Latest in the PC SIG series. $22.00
PC-SIG WORLD of WINDOWS (8/93, by PC SIG): Over 350 $22.00
Windows programs, over 2,000 sounds, over 900 truetype
fonts, over 10,000 icons, files are for use directly from
CD (uncompressed).
PHOENIX 4.0 (8/93) $21.00
* SCI-FI FANTASY (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago Computer $25.00
Broker): VGA pics including Star Trek, Star Wars,
Fantasy, D&D, Creatures, Conan & much more.
* SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 (7/93, BBS Ready, by Power User $25.00
Software): 650MB, VGA Arcade Games, Home & Hobby,
Graphics, Clip Art, Sound Files, Finance, OS/2, Windows,
Fonts & much more.
* SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD COLLECTION (9/93, BBS Ready, by $29.00
American Databankers): Over 6,000 files, over 590MB.
File areas include: top software hits of 1993, Windows
apps and games, business, utils, programming, BBS
programs, and much more.
* SHAREWARE April 1993 (4/93, BBS Ready, by Chicago $19.00
Computer Broker): 5,000 files, games, sounds, Window,
utils, education, finance.
SHAREWARE OVERLOAD: Over 6,100 files, Games, MS Windows, $11.00
Business, Clip Art, Education & much more.
Clip Art
~~~~~~~~
GIFs GALORE: Over 5,000 full color GIFs and viewers for $19.00
MS-DOS, Macintosh, Amiga and Unix.
Game
~~~~
KINGS QUEST V $16.00
KINGS QUEST VI $33.00
LOOM: LucasArts' truly unique fantasy graphic adventure, $22.00
You play the role of a young weaver in the Age of the
Great Guilds.
Reference
~~~~~~~~~
FAMILY DOCTOR: Over 1,500 of frequently asked medical $26.00
questions, approx. 300 color medical illustrations, names
& addresses of support groups/education resources,
complete data on over 1,600 prescription drugs.
Sound
~~~~~
ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SOUND: 211 WAV sound effects files, 13 $14.00
WAV music clip files, 7 full length musical scores, VOC
sound effects, sound players and utils, SoundBlaster and
Adlib compatable.
DFW Discount Electronics - PO Box 177617 - Irving, TX 75017
Prices and availability subject to change without notice
<<< Call us for items not listed >>>
■ CmpQwk #UNREG■ UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY
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From: GARY PITTMAN Number: 3364
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 11:18a
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-16-93, Adrian Salas said to All!
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS>your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
I would like one of your catalogs. Please send to:
Gary Pittman
P.O. Box 400
Blue Springs, MO 64014-3907
Thank you.
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From: DARIN CELINO Number: 3365
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/20/93 1:17a
Subj: Contests Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|BJ> I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that |
|BJ> claimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know |
|BJ> about it, do you? |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
I saw it too.....and didn't D/L it.....If I find it I will put it on
my BBS and let you know. I think it was on MSI or Classified
Connection.
Like your latest reveiw. Keep up the good work.
___
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From: DARIN CELINO Number: 3366
To: SOPH PETROU Date: 09/20/93 1:22a
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|SP> Hi All, |
|SP> Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy |
|SP> chained off a SOUND GALAXY NXPRO? |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Yes I do Know......
No they can't.....but why do you need both hooked up to the sound
board?
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X MegaMail 2.10 #0:Always forgive your enemies. They _HATE_ that!
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From: DARIN CELINO Number: 3367
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/20/93 1:24a
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
|BF> -> connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) with |
|BF> |
|BF> Check you set blaster line in the autoexec.bat file. A lot of people |
|BF> dont realize the audio volumn is controlled there for the sound blaster|
|BF> card. Also, If you are using the patch cord that came with your sound |
|BF> blaster, make sure the little audio cable is installed on the back of |
|BF> the cd-rom drive and the interface card. |
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
This is not so for the Sound Blaster.....the plain one.....unless
there are some undocumented controls for them.
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3368
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 2:01p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SUPER CD 1................ 22.00 SUPER CD 2............... 29.00
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 2....... 30.00 SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3...... 35.00
NIGHTOWL 9................ 32.00 NIGHTOWL 8............... 29.00
SOUNDWAV.................. 26.95 SHAREWARE EXTRAVAGANZA... 55.00
PC-S1G 12................. 41.50 SOFTWARE VAULT........... 28.00
DESKTOP PUBLISHERS DREAM.. 39.50 TIME DESERT STORM........ 29.95
PC MEDIC.................. 32.50 CICA WINDOWS............. 29.00
Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% SEND
check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to: SAN DIEGO ROM
CONNECTION 2434 EAST 32ND STREET, NATIONAL CITY CA 91950 USA
* QMPro 1.51 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3369
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 2:05p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
****************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION *********************
DR. WINDOWS...............22.00 DR. GAMES................ 22.00
DR. MUSIC................. 22.00 DR. SHAREWARE............ 22.00
SOFTWARE VAULT GOLD....... 35.00
For *ADULT* TITLES CALL or REQUEST CATALOG
Shipping 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% SEND
check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to: SAN DIEGO ROM
CONNECTION 2434 EAST 32ND STREET, NATIONAL CITY CA 91950 USA
* QMPro 1.51 * ROM CONNECTION CD-SALES Voice 619-479-8688 10am-7pm PST
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From: JASON LINCOLN Number: 3370
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 11:34p
Subj: SONY 535 SPEEDUP Refer: NONE
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I've got a Procomm CD-ROM which is Sony 535 compatible and I want to
install it internally so I was wondering if the SOny 535 could be installed
internally.
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From: STEVE WON Number: 3371
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 8:02p
Subj: SBPro, does it have a limited data transfer? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have heard, (maybe just rumor) that the CD interface on the SB Pro is
limited to a data transfer rate of 150 kb/s. Does anyone know if this
is true or not? I don't have one yet, but I may buy a Panasonic 562B
and if this is true, I may have to get a SB clone type card. If this
data transfer is true, then it would essentially eliminate the
effectiveness of the double spin, 300 kb/s 562B.
Any thoughts are appreciated.
TTYL
... BOSS spelled backwards is Double S-O-B
* TLX v3.00 *
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From: PAUL KNOX Number: 3372
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 8:23p
Subj: Night Owl's Latest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am looking for their latest version of shareware cd-rom. I am currentlyusing
version 7.0. I need to know where how and howmuch.
Later
Paul
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3373
To: JEFF HUBERT Date: 09/20/93 8:47a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JH> I finally got a os/2 driver for the mitsumi cd-rom drive but it doesn't
JH> support cd-audio ( only a beta version 1.04 beta). I tried the geramn
JH> beta 1.05 but it doesn't work!
Right you are, It has no audio, but the audio-upgrade is
being made available now. None of the BETA version should work.
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From: HEATHER KRAUSE Number: 3374
To: JACK DIEHL Date: 09/19/93 7:03p
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JD>does any one know if mitsumi has a tech-warranty line i have one that
JD>worked for about 2 weeks then quit it does not appear to be spinnig up
Call their tech support person (singular? I always seem to get the
same guy when I call) in California at 408-970-0700.
- Heather
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From: JAMES DESOTELLE Number: 3375
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 2:37p
Subj: Chemisty CD Wanted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am searching for a chemistry CD that has all the elements and its
properties, or something simuliar. I am not sure if one exists or not
but if you know any info on this, or where I can get one please let me
know. Reply this net or call at (701)-780-0930. It is very important!
Thanks
James
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From: DAVID CARMICHAEL Number: 3376
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 8:10a
Subj: External Case For Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have one of the older MITSUMI 600ms CD-ROM drives which I want to move from
my system to my wifes system.
_BUT_ her computer does not have any open 5.25" drive bays.
So what I am looking for is 'EITHER' an external case for this CD-ROM drive or
for her 5.25" Floppy drive [Which she _MUST_ keep] hooked up to her system.
I can not move her systems mother board to another case as was suggested to me
a while back.
--David
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3377
To: BERTRAND SCHMITT Date: 09/17/93 9:17a
Subj: Kit 16ASP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BS>I'm thinking of buying the Sound Blaster 16ASP Multimedia Upgrade Kit.
BS>Up to now, I was only able to find a 16 without the ASP version.
BS>I read in a magazine "TILT" that the latest kit that Creative Labs made was
BS>with the 16ASP and the Panasonic CDR 652B. Is is able of double speed and an
BS>amazing 600Kb/s with some games ( Yes, it was written black on white ).
I believe it is with 562b and it is 300k/s Multisession compatible.
I sell them but you can make you own bundle by purchase it separate.
Sound Blaster 16 MCD with ASP and Panasonic controller ........$199
Sound Blaster 16 MCD w/ASP and SCSI controller build in........$229
CD-ROM Panasonic SR-562 double spin 300k/s Multisession .......$249
Creative Lab Discovery 16.SR-562 CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$469
Price does not included shipping
Call 310-602-2076 8am-1pm, 7pm-10pm PST or Fax 310-402-7240 24hours
Mail order payable TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * Voice 310-602-2076 8am-1pm,7pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3378
To: MARC CIRCOSTA Date: 09/17/93 9:17a
Subj: Aus. 562B distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
MC> Just wondering if I could ask a about the availablity of
MC>the new Panasonic 562B drive that everybody seems to be
Sound Blaster 16 Basic Edition.................................$139
Sound Blaster 16 MCD with ASP and Panasonic controller ........$199
Sound Blaster 16 MCD w/ASP and SCSI controller build in........$229
CD-ROM Panasonic SR-522 for SB Pro sound card..................$189
CD-ROM Panasonic SR-562 double spin 300k/s Multisession .......$249
Creative Lab Discovery 8. SR-562 CDROM+SB Pro+2CDs+Speakers....$389
Creative Lab Discovery 16.SR-562 CDROM+SB 16 +2CDs+Speakers....$469
Price does not included shipping
Call 310-602-2076 8am-1pm, 7pm-10pm PST or Fax 310-402-7240 24hours
Mail order payable TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723 Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * Voice 310-602-2076 8am-1pm,7pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: WEE YUNG Number: 3379
To: GABRIEL KLYBER Date: 09/19/93 9:19a
Subj: Sb16&cd-rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GK>I have a SB16 and would like to hook a CD-ROM up to it. I
GK>know it only works with Mitsumi/Panasonic. I've heard of a
GK>new Mitsumi double-spin CD-ROM. Has anyone else heard or
The Pana 562b is new and double spin with Multi session compatible
CD-ROM Mitsumi CRMC LU-005S w/contlr 630MB, 350ms, Kodak comp. $179.
CD-ROM Sony 31A with controller ...............................$229.
CD-ROM Panasonic 522B for SB Pro 380ms w/caddy.................$189.
CD-ROM Panasonic 562B 320ms w/contlr caddyless 300k/s 64kcache.$249.
Magnetic Shieded Multimedia Stereo Speaker system $9
MIDI cable for any sound card with Joystick port...............$19.
Price does not included shipping.
Call 310-602-2076 8AM-12PM, 6PM-9PM PST or mail order payable to: TRUC
16429 Bixler ave. Paramount, CA 90723. Accept money order, COD $5extra
* OLX 2.1 TD * Voice 310-602-2076 8am-1pm,7pm-9pm PST. Fax 310-402-7240
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From: KURT LARSEN Number: 3380
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:59a
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a SoundBlaster 16 ASP card and I have been told that the only CD-Rom
drive compatable with it is a Panasonic drive. Do you know if this is
true?--or could you tell me how I might find some info on this subject.
Thanks
Kurt
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From: JOHN KELLEY Number: 3381
To: KURT LARSEN Date: 09/18/93 12:11p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Kurt ---
I forwarded your msg to this echo, as I really know nothing about sound cards.
I hope someone on here can answer your question.
John
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 3382
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/18/93 10:13a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Lee Noga to George Porter <=-
LN> Is this a first amendment question?, don't see where the general
LN> description is going to influence any child to be a serial rapist. It's
LN> one thing for them to read about the disc, and its another to view the
LN> disc--Sorry my friend if this is offending, but this is hardly an issue
LN> of obscenity. If the children are realizing that women can be
LN> photographed nude from my post, well then I am glad they learned it
LN> from me--
-=*>Lee<*=-
LN> "Sucessful parent of a son, and 2 grandkids"
LN>
I'm in total agreement with you on this Lee, I have a few adult CD and I'm
the father of two teen age children also. My kids know I have them and
know their not for them and they respect that rule. The image that some
of these anti adult fanatics have of adult cd users must be that they sit
around their computer in rain coats typing with one hand. As for children
reading this echo, well they get more exposure to sex watching tv commericals
the news and current affairs. The moderaitor has chosen to eliminate
discuessions of adult oriented material (which I believe is a bad choice)
but so be it. What's bothering me now is all the WANNABE moderators who
just love to get upset and flame whenever they see a X- or XXX in a message.
So to all you WANNABE'S out there here's your chance to fufill your destiny
in life and make you dreams come true.
XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX-
XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX- XXX-
Now that all of you have gotten that out of your system lets get
back to basics.
... UnZip...expand...What kind of pervert came up with this?
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 3383
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/18/93 12:35p
Subj: SOUND COMBATIBLE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Kevin Sullivan to Adam Edwards <=-
AE>Seventh Guest has a patch to fix soundcard and video problems and also a
AE>patch to support the GUS directly instead of through SBOS.
KS> Notice if a patch for the PAStudio 16 in native (not SB) mode was
KS> there?
I'm not sure If this fits in but I'm getting great stero sound with
it on my PAS16
... Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit! Kill the wabbit!
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From: LOU PETRALIA Number: 3384
To: RICHARD MAYCOCK Date: 09/18/93 12:39p
Subj: YOUR TAGLINE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Richard Maycock to Dave Reed <=-
DR> We Americans are in the middle of a crisis, here.
RM> America is in a crisis as soon as it feels threatened. Cuba,
RM> Nicauragua, Libya, Drugs, Japan etc. etc.
IMO America has been in crisis since Kenndy was shot. Think about it
2 unelected presidents. A vice president and a President resigning
because of questionable activities. Its not just now, but it's been
going on for over 25 years. Read all about it on a american history
CD
... Rush Limbaugh: A good example of why some animals eat their young.
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3385
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 11:10p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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Packet: COZYK
Date: 09-16-93 (14:08) Number: 86
From: ADRIAN SALAS Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: CATALOGS Conf: (35) CDROM
AS>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS>Thank you
>Adrian Salas
Greetings,
BENJAMIN COMPUTER SERVICES, P.O.Box 17380, West Palm Beach, Fl
33416-7380 would greatly appreciate your catalog(s) of available
CD-ROMS!
John Benjamin
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 3386
To: RICHARD MAYCOCK Date: 09/19/93 2:51p
Subj: Re: your tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Richard,
This guy Dave Reed does not represent how mainstream America feels, so
please don't look down upon our country because of a few bad apples. We have a
term for people like him, "Red Neck". Anyway, enough of debating in this
conference...back to CD-ROMs.
So, anyone know which new CD-ROM games are being released in the near
future? Hopefully, Rebel Assault will make it out by Christmas.
- Eric
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From: ERIC HSIAO Number: 3387
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/19/93 2:52p
Subj: Proaudiostudio + t7guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The 7th Guest in PAS-16 mode needs DMA 3. 7th Guest doesn't support higher
order 16-bit DMA channels.
- Eric
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3388
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 1:59p
Subj: CD's Buying Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for new and used CD's. Mess, call, or write.
C. Alvarez Jr
348 Chutney Dr
Orlando, FL 32825-3612
(407)282-8827 (voice)
Thanx
CAT
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From: CHRISTIAN BUHL Number: 3389
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 3:00p
Subj: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I can get a new CD-ROM (internal, 150KBS, 390ms) with three programs (An
Encyclopedia, An Atlas, and 1000 sound effects) and a sound card
(Adlib/SB/Windows compatible) for 249.90 plus S&H (15.00) Is this a good
deal? I already have a sound blaster (pro) but have found someone who
will buy it for $80.
Or I could get a Mitsumi 300ms drive (I dont know the KBS, probably 300)
for $210 (internal)
Which is a better deal? Which would you get? (I would use it mainly for
games and education)
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 3390
To: PATRICK MCCORMICK Date: 09/19/93 12:05p
Subj: Hitachi Cd-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Patrick Mccormick wrote in a message to Terry Blount:
PM> Hi Terry,
PM> I was wondering if you still had any of the used
PM> Hatachi 3500 drives and if so could you tell me some stuff
PM> about them. Like do you have the drivers for OS/2 2.1 with
PM> them are they compatible with OS/2 and are you still
PM> selling them for the same price.
I've been sold out about 4 or 5 weeks now and can't get any
more... but I have 4 of the newer model 3600's that I'm going to
take off my bbs and sell with external case, and power supply and
all the works for $750. These newer drives are excellent, fast
and sell for over $400 each when they are new.
I don't have the OS/2 drivers but I hear that Todd Enterprises
sells them for $40. I do have drivers that you can run them in a
VDM window. Give me a call at 205-824-2552 if you are
interested. Thanks
»Let us be glad and rejoice, for the marriage of the Lamb is come,(Rev.
19:7)«
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 3391
To: CRAIG GAGNER Date: 09/19/93 2:10p
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep1914:10, Craig Gagner of 1:3626/1 writes:
CG> I am a Tech at a local Computer Store, and we have run into a
CG> problem with the Mitsumi Drives.
CG> The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
CG> work in a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried
CG> 4 different motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The
CG> same drive will work in a 386 no problem.
CG> Does anyone know what might have happened ?? I suspect they
CG> changed there firm wear with an upgrade which has caused this
CG> problem..
I run 2 of these on a 486 with no problems, which ver of MSDEX.EXE are you
running?
-=Stephen=-
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From: STEPHEN GUPTON Number: 3392
To: JOE HOWES Date: 09/19/93 2:13p
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a msg on <Sep1914:13, Joe Howes of 1:134/40 writes:
JH> Does anyone out there use this caching program? I'm
JH> wondering if anyone has found the optimal settings for it under
JH> Day of the Tentacle and Space Adventure. I set it up for the
JH> Seventh Guest yesterday, but the video got so far ahead of the
JH> sound that the system would freeze from time to time until
JH> everything was caught up!! However, DOTT still pauses too long
JH> when sounds are being loaded and space adventure is just kind of
JH> slow.
7th Guest dosen't work too well on slower drives, CD-Speedway is no more
than a cashe, and you can't tell the differance without a stopwatch.
-=Stephen=-
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3393
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/18/93 11:27p
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Gary, the spec list on the CD32 you posted did indeed mention that the CD32
comes with a floppy connector. I would like to have this verified by some
official source.
You also mentioned an expansion connector. Have you heard any word on
whether this will have a SCSI port? If it does, we can expect to see
Commodore generate a lot of sales to people wanting high performance CD-ROM
drives. I'd love to buy both a CD-ROM drive and an Amiga for the price of
just the drive! ;)
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3394
To: JOHN PENDLETON Date: 09/18/93 11:38p
Subj: Atari & CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
So, are you saying that MINT and MultiTOS are basically the exact same thing?
RE: MINT & SCSI-PRO on the STe
I'm not clear on one thing, you're running a SCSI CD-ROM drive on your STe,
right? But I didn't think that SCSI was built into any of the Atari computers
except the TT and Falcon030. Is that right?
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3395
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/20/93 11:08a
Subj: Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Neil!
Have like new 7th Guest son's CD player won't play it comes with the viedo,
and all doc's $35 you pay shipping
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3396
To: DONNIE RAYNOR Date: 09/20/93 12:38p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-Rom drive for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Donnie!
19 Sep 93, Donnie Raynor writes to Pat Rickerson:
DR> Pat, I have considered your offer and here is what I am willing to do.
DR> It will probably cost close to 10 bucks to ship to Texas. I'll eat that
DR> but, I will have to get $165 for the drive. If you are interested drop
DR> me a line so I can be looking for your money order.
If that drive is still around on the first of Oct. leave me a message and I
will get it. Thanks for the offer.
Pat
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From: RICHARD VONZEL Number: 3397
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 5:25a
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
I have 3 Mitsumi 8 bit internal drives for sale. All work great on my bbs.
150.00 + C.O.D. Contact me here or netmail me at 1:282/3022. I'm selling them
because I'm shuting down my system.
Richard
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From: RICHARD DRIGGERS Number: 3398
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/18/93 5:08p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Bob,
Please send one of your catalogs to:
Richard Driggers
Sparta PCBoard BBS
13707 Staimford Drive
Wellington, FL 33414-8939
Thanks
Richard
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From: RICHARD DRIGGERS Number: 3399
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 5:12p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please send one of your catalogs to:
Richard Driggers
Sparta PCBoard BBS
13706 Staimford Drive
Wellington, FL 33414-8939
Richard
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From: RICHARD DRIGGERS Number: 3400
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 5:13p
Subj: CD LIST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Neil,
Please add me to your mailing list as follows:
Richard Driggers
Sparta PCBoard BBS
13706 Staimford Drive
Wellington, FL 33414-8939
Richard
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From: RICHARD DRIGGERS Number: 3401
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/18/93 5:18p
Subj: Catalog Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Michellea
Please add me to your list for a catalog:
Richard Driggers
Sparta PCBoard BBS
13706 Staimford Drive
Wellington, FL 33414
Richard
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3402
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/19/93 10:43p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
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Packet: COZYK
Date: 09-17-93 (00:14) Number: 46
From: MIKE SHANNON Refer#: NONE
To: ALL Recvd: NO
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Conf: (35) CDROM
MS> | Starvector Sales Bulletin #6: HOT NEW CD-ROM! |
> | Title: FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
Mike,
Please send a catalog of your available CD's and drives and
anything else that is available to BENJAMIN COMPUTER SERVICES
P.O. Box 17380, West Palm Beach, Fl 33416-7380.
John Benjamin
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3403
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 10:46p
Subj: CD carousels Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Folks,
I'm looking for a multiple carousel CD for my BBS that will hold
a minimum of 3 to 5 CD's. Need price, make, model & availability via
mail.
John Benjamin
■ QMPro 1.50 41-2352 ■ He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3404
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/20/93 8:13a
Subj: CD's in the background Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to Paul Swider...
Ashwin, Thank you for your information. I was responding to a msg Edward
Tushar sent (see below). Possibly you sent this reply to him to, I might
have missed it.
AB> -> On 09-12-93 Edward Tushar wrote to All...
AB> ->
AB> -> ET> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen
AB> -> ET> to CD's while doing other work on the computer? Just
AB> -> ET> wondering. And no, I don't do WINDOWS!<G>
AB> ->
AB>
I don't have a Mitsumi drive but will try and store that info for
future reference. Thanks again for offering your help. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "All true wisdom is found in taglines."
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3405
To: DEBBIE MARANTZ Date: 09/20/93 8:22a
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-19-93 Debbie Marantz wrote to Paul Swider...
DM> The number for the Virgin Games BBS is 1-714-833-3305 and
DM> they have two current updates online T7G124 and T7G130.
DM> Also, you have me a bit curious, as I had a STEALTH VRAM in
DM> my system until the CDRom was installed and the only
DM> problem I encountered was when I installed T7G, the video
DM> throughput numbers were 1% of optimum, which was a real
DM> surprise, since the card supports vram.
Debbie, thanks for the number. I got a hold of the files and T7G works
fine now. I understand what you are saying about The throughput numbers.
My Diamond board is the Viper VLB. I have found with the 2 Windows
acclerator boards I've owned that although they work fantastic in Windows
mode they fall real short in straight DOS SVGA mode and thats where T7G
operates out of. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Standards are wonderful. So many to choose from!"
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3406
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/20/93 8:37a
Subj: CD-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-18-93 Benny Foster wrote to All...
BF> Anyone know of good sorces for the Panasonic CD-Rom drives (CR-562)? I
BF> am looking for aprox 10-20 at a time. I am also always looking for new
BF> and good sorces for CD-Rom disks. Any help would be appreciated.
Benny, I was helping a friend get and install a CDROM drive in his computer
yesterday and we happened to stop in an Egghead Computer Store. They were
selling a Dual Speed drive for $249.95. I didn't recognize the model from
the picture on the front of the box or from the name of the company, which
was Reveal, so I had the clerk open the box. To my surprise it contained a
CR-563b (Creative Labs number for the CR-562b). The box also contained the
40 pin cable for connecting the drive to a SoundBlaster card and the audio
cable to do the same, plus side rails for mounting, install software, and
a video on how to do it !!! >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Easy as 3.141592653589..."
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From: PAUL SWIDER Number: 3407
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/20/93 9:29a
Subj: Sb Pro Or Sb 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-17-93 Ashwin Bihari wrote to All...
AB> Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to replace my
AB> SB
AB> 2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the CD-ROM
AB> output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good choice
AB> and
AB> worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the CD-ROM games I
AB> have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please tell me about
AB> these
AB> card and good and bad<grin> things about these cards. TTYL.
AB> Ashwin
Ashwin, I have 2 systems at my house. One system has the SB16 and the other
has the PAS16. I find that I can play more programs that access sound cards
on the system with the SB16 because it is completely SoundBlaster compatible.
The PAS16 is SoundBlaster compatible only not SBPRO compatible. The good news
is that newer games, multimedia, etc. are now written for PAS16 also, so that
problem is almost gone. Personally, I like the sound quality of the PAS16
more than the SB16. The PAS16 has the SCSI interface built in which gives more
possiblities for more drives to be used. If I had to do it again, I'd stick
with the PAS16. I'm sure you'll get other opinions <g>. >Paul<
... OFFLINE 1.50 "Do not adjust your mind. The fault lies with reality."
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From: JIM CUMMINGS Number: 3408
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/20/93 8:23p
Subj: Govt CD-Rom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The "U.S. Code, containing the general and permanent laws of
the United States" is available for $30.00 on CD-Rom under
catalog SB 314, Superintendent of Documents, Box 371954,
Pittsburgh, PA 15250-7954.
* Origin: Joppa, MD. "Prop me up by the Jukebox if I die."
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From: MICHAEL GRAHAM Number: 3409
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 10:09a
Subj: Encyclopedia Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone sale an ENCYCLOPEDIA on CD for BBS's to work in a DOOR.
(DOOR.SYS)
If not this would be a good idea for someone to work on.
It would be nice if users could look up a subject, read it, and if
needed, to have it zipped up to be able to download it. No need for PICS
or SOUNDCARDS, Straight TEXT/ANSI/@ANSI@. Would be nice it it would
work for multi-line systems also.
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From: RICHARD JOHNSON Number: 3410
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 3:09a
Subj: hitachi cdr 3500 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Looking for a Hitachi CDR-3500 drive. If you have one please let me know.
Thanks!
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From: ERIC TREMBLAY Number: 3411
To: CRAIG GAGNER Date: 09/19/93 11:28p
Subj: Mitsumi Problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
> work in
> a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried 4
> different
> motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The same drive will
> work in a 386 no problem.
What is the symptom Craig? Ehat do you mean by "they just crap
out"? Does the driver report a "CD-ROM not Detected" message? Or is it
something else. Please describe.
TTYL
Eric
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From: MARK GUTT Number: 3412
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/19/93 4:43a
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Go Back to the Isle of Wonder and pick one of the iceberg cabbages. Then return
to the boiling water and toss the cabbage in it.
As for the castle, you'll be able to get in later in the game if you
get the right things.
Mark Gutt
--- GEcho 1.00
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From: DALE A COOK Number: 3413
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 1:31a
Subj: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone out there have a soundblaster compatible cd-rom for sale?
thanx!
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 3414
To: ALL Date: 09/07/93 3:05p
Subj: Custom cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
D i g i t a l
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o 650 Meg (74 minute) media available.
o Use as to transfer data to pressing facility.
o Consolidate Smaller CD's onto one Disk.
o Great for: BBS Files, Document Imaging, Permanent Archival
Traveling Databases, Multimedia Presentations/Demos.
Take those GIFS off of tape! CD is much more convenient!
o In MOST cases, your CD ships the same day we recieve your tapes.
o Free shipping via Two day US. Priority Mail. Overnight UPS RED Label
shipping is $15 extra.
o Our charge for a full 650 Megabyte disk is $144. If your disk has
less than 144 megabytes on it, we charge $1 per megabyte, minimum $90.
o Duplicates of the same disk are $55 each.
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---------------------------
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o DC600/6XXX Streaming Tape
o Floppy ($8/hr for the Restore)
o Hard Disk
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Prepay for service via Certified Funds. Personal checks must clear
bank before production begins. SORRY, we are not able to accept your
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From: LOYD CRAFT Number: 3415
To: ED YEE Date: 09/17/93 2:15p
Subj: Writable cd-rom's Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EY>It states clearly that it supports WORM though. Thus one could write
EY>CD-ROM's for him/herself to use.
WORM and Recordable CDROM are completely different animals. Their similarity
ends with the fact that they are both optical-based storage mediums.
A small list of differences and similarities:
- A WORM and a Recordable CDROM cannot be erased. - A WORM can have files
updated, with new entries replacing the old. - A Recordable CDROM volume, once
written is NOT updatable. - A WORM can be written to like a hard drive, using
DOS commands - A Recordable CDROM CANNOT be written to like a hard disk. It
must be
written and formatted with special software on a machine with
considerable horsepower to keep up with the drive. - A WORM disk is usable
only by compatible WORM drives. a CDROM drive
cannot read WORM.
- A Recordable CDROM can be read in any ISO 9660 compliant CDROM drive.
You are correct that with a WORM drive you could write data for your OWN use,
but only someone with a compatible WORM drive could use them, whereas a
recordable CDROM can be read by anyone with a CDROM drive.
lOYD
===
* OLX 2.1 * Hey Rockie! Watch me pull a Rabbit outta my hat!
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* Origin: Four Star DayDreams - St. Charles, MI (517)865-6066 (1:239/900)
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From: CHAD ROBINSON Number: 3416
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 11:34a
Subj: Hitachi CD-ROM board Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have an interface board here that was working great for my Hitachi CD-ROM.
The problem is I now have a device that can ONLY work (due to its really BADLY
written device drivers) at address C800h. The same as the driver board. I
don't have the manual for the board - I bought the drive and interface card
used. Does anybody have a spare manual, an info card, information, or a number
I could call to find out how to change the address? Any replies would be MUCH
appreciated..
If possible, please reply via this or any echo, or netmail, to Alison Cozzubbo
at 1:141/975. I'm away at school and I rarely have a chance to connect to
Fidonet due to long distance rates. If you have access to Internet, I DO have
an address there: crobinso@stevens-tech.edu
Thanks for any help!
Chad
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* Origin: Treasure Island =HST/DS= 203-791-8532 (1:141/730)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3417
To: CARLOS BENITZ Date: 09/19/93 8:02a
Subj: Re: Pollution Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Carlos Benitz to Dave Reed <=-
CB> The bickering.
Me, Too! Especially about Windows, OS-2, and caddies! If those involved
want to send endless flames at each other on these topics, I WISH they'd
take them somewhere else.
Cheeeeeze! Enough is enough, already.
... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: BOB JACKSON Number: 3418
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/19/93 8:23a
Subj: Re: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Richard Robb to Bob Hall <=-
RR> However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
RR> been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
RR> true that children read the echo, that is a reason for banning
RR> *discussion* of adult topics. But that is hardly a reason for banning
Your argument is specious, Richard. Evidently you don't read this echo
often enough to understand the real reasons Bob made the decision he
did, which had nothing to do with any reasoning about children reading
this echo. His decision centered around his own legal liability related
to his being the moderator of this echo and residing in a state with
very stringent laws regarding pornography. Back up and read his last
post to Lee Noga on the topic.
RR> adult titles and prices, while continuing to ban discussion of adult
RR> topics or the material on those disks. That would be fair, and would
RR> be consistent with society's overall acceptance of the mention of
RR> adult titles on magazines, theater marquees, etc.
Your sense of "fairnesss" is bizarre to say the least. In the several
months that I've been in this echo (and the For Sale echo where the
topic is still OK), the language used in "discussions" of adult CDs has
been much "tamer" than some of the chit-chat, not to mention that used
in the flames that are hurled between users. You sound like one of
those unfortunate tortured souls who are plagued with the Ostrich
Syndrome: "If it isn't talked about, it doesn't exist." Get real.
Sorry, Bob. Couldn't let that one pass. <EOT>
... From the Law Offices of Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.
--- Blue Wave/RA v2.10
* Origin: Hard Disc Cafe | Houston Texas | (713) 589-2690 | (1:106/30.0)
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 3419
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/19/93 11:03a
Subj: Contests Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description
BJ> thatclaimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to
BJ> knowabout it, do you?
Those are called "Emoticons". HAL-PC probably has it...
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: Database Connections BBS * USR DS 16.8 * 713-495-4196 * (1:106/4196)
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From: LOUIS SOKOL Number: 3420
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 11:06a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over
NB> 300 titles in stock.
Please send me a catalog @ 3350 Highway 6, Suite 563; Sugar Land, TX 77478.
--- FreeMail 1.09
* Origin: Database Connections BBS * USR DS 16.8 * 713-495-4196 * (1:106/4196)
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From: DANIEL SIGMUND Number: 3421
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/19/93 4:57p
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE: mail order
BY: Jim Lambert to Ken Chan on Sat Sep 11 1993 03:20 pm
> order. Just compare our prices to that of stores and magazines. If you
> are interested in receiving sales catalogs, either post your address or
> give us a call.
>
> Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
> (205) 793-4481 Voice
> (205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
Would like to receive your sales catalogs for CD-ROM's...
Daniel Sigmund
700 County Rd 219, #123
Box Elder, SD 57719
Thanks!
Dan
--- Synchronet
* Origin: Silver Bullet's Lounge, Rapid City (605)343-0755 (1:293/645)
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From: MIKE AVILA Number: 3422
To: KEVIN SULLIVAN Date: 09/18/93 5:34p
Subj: ProAudioStudio + T7Guest Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
*** Quoting Kevin Sullivan to Mike Avila dated 09-13-93 ***
> Thanks again for getting me running with the PAStudio / Texel combo.
> BTW,
> the kit has finally arrived (again?) at the post office, will pick up
> tomorrow.
>
Hope it all works out. FOLLOW THE BOOK FROM MEDIA VISION. It has step by step
instructions. Like I said before, I did it my way and used the wrong driver.
Actually, that is how easy it is to install. A book is not needed EXCEPT to
let you know to use the othe driver.
*** Quoting Kevin Sullivan to Mike Avila dated 09-13-93 ***
> My question today: Can the 7th Guest be configured to work with the
> driver
> NOT in SB compatibility mode? I spent a couple of hours playing the
> DMA and IRQ shuffle with PAS orig and PAS + modes, but T7G complained
> it
> couldn't find the hardware. What can/must be done to make T7G
> recognize
> the PAS in native mode? Any advantage, i.e. 16 bit sound instead of SB
> 2.0
> mono 8-bit?
>
I don't know how to configure 7th Guest. Someone else will have to help you
there. I did not do anything special to be SB compatible. I just load the PAS
driver each time and everything works. My only trouble was with Windows and a
call to MV and it was solved within 30 seconds. I gave you my settings in the
last message.
As far as I know 7th Guest should work if you just say SB and fire up the PAS
card. If 7th Guest does direct/tricky stuff it may not work. I haven't had
any compatibility problems yet but I haven't used a lot of the newer games
stuff or any specialized stuff. Sorry, but you'll have to ask one of the
people discussing 7th Guest. Hopefully they will see I cannot respond and will
respond to you.
Best of luck!
Mike
--- GEcho 1.00+
* Origin: Night Gallery BBS * DS/HST (1:120/209)
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From: LON SEIDMAN Number: 3423
To: SHAWN MAZZUTO Date: 09/19/93 1:25a
Subj: NEC CDR-84 Multi-Spin Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SM> Even if it's a Pioneer for argument sake?
I really don't know. Your best bet would be to contact both NEC and Pioneer
tech support for the answer to that question.
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* Origin: Treasure Island =HST/DS= 203-791-8532 (1:141/730)
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From: NKS IN ADVANCE FOR YOUR SUGGEST Number: 3424
To: IONS.ππ... DID YOU TAK Date: 09/19/93 5:04a
Subj: Seems To be one missing. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Software Heaven (813) 653-0029 Tampa, Fl (1:377/41.0)
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* Origin: Sherwood Forest RBBS 203-455-0646 (1:327/453)
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From: ERIC STAUFER Number: 3425
To: GERALD RYCKMAN Date: 09/18/93 1:34p
Subj: Gifs Galore Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GR> I have it online on my BBS but unfortunatetly it is currently
GR> under
GR> reconstruction (because of a network crash...several harddisks
GR> lost
GR> permanently). It should be back up by no longer than next
GR> month. If you
GR> wish, you can call my BBS at 1-416-286-6063 after October 1st,
GR> 1993.
Ok, I'll give it a call then.. I appreciate your reply.
GR> And Sorry, we only support 14.4k v.32bis to 19.2k ZyXEL modems.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Well, thats fine with me.. cuz, thats what I have :)
Thanks again!
..Eric Staufer..
..1:374/6568..
--- FastEcho 1.25/SuperBBS 1.17-3
* Origin: Cornerstone BBS (407)770-2004 PM14400FXSA 24 Hrs (1:374/2004)
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From: AL KOLLER Number: 3426
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/19/93 10:45a
Subj: Re: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Great piece of writing, and super sentiments. Congratulations on ten years of
work (10?? Wow, right out there at the beginning of it all!), and keep it
just the way it is Bob. You do a great job.
Al
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* Origin: SPACE COAST BBS, Titusville, Florida, (407) 269-2169 (1:374/3)
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From: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Number: 3427
To: MICHAEL BROWN Date: 09/19/93 11:41a
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Yes, Prophone CD 1993, Questions? How complete is the
-> disk? Is it accurate? How did they load the information,
-> scanning? Also business numbers on the same disk, how
-> can you search, SIC code?
Hi Michael!
I've never used it, so I'll have to repeat what I've heard!
Its very complete for its price, medium accurate, and you can search by
SIC code. There are 7 discs, one devoted to business.
.\\ichellea
--- The Mail Box [NR]
* Origin: SUPERBOARD/CD-ROM WHOLESALERS (306)789-8682 (1:140/121)
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From: WILLIAM T. MCCLAIN Number: 3428
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/20/93 12:57a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD Rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG> No problem for the LU005, I currently have two online and they
SG> work flawlessly. I also run a Pioneer DRM-604X 6 disk
SG> changer.
SG> <*=- Stephen -=*>
Thanks for the info.
... See ya later. -Mac-
--- FMail 0.96Γ
* Origin: The Logic Gate BBS (813) 831-8125 Tampa, Fl (1:377/49.0)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 3429
To: PAUL KNOX Date: 09/19/93 2:25p
Subj: LOOKING FOR USED CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PK> I am looking for a disk full of shareware to use on
PK> my bbs. My address is as follows:
PK> Paul Knox
PK> 2405 Southdale Rd.
PK> Hephzibah, Ga.
PK> 30815
We have several of the latest and greatest shareware CDs in stock. Give us a
call at 615-476-4026 to discuss your needs. We usually have the best prices
also.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 3430
To: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Date: 09/19/93 2:30p
Subj: National telephone directory Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GRL> I'm looking for anyone who has any of the
GRL> advertised national residential telephone
GRL> directory on CD. I believe they come in a set of
GRL> 3 or so. I see that DAK is advertising their set
GRL> for $149. What other companies is selling this
GRL> type of disk(s) and what is their price?
GRL> --- FastEcho/386 V1.25+
We have the Prophone 3 CD set which is 2 residential and one business for
$49.95 which is from 1992. There is a 1993 Prophone 7 cd set that has a
considerable larger residential for $99.95. Call 615-339-0235 24 hours or
800-547-7817 daily to order.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 3431
To: KENNETH WATTS Date: 09/19/93 2:43p
Subj: WHOLESALERS WANTED Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KW> Wanted cd-rom wholesaler to place orders with.
KW> Please send catalog or ordering information to:
KW> Kenneth Watts
Call Faye at Tradeshows at 317-651-1223. Tell her Doug Carpenter sent ya.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
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From: DOUG CARPENTER Number: 3432
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/19/93 2:45p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR> However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
RR> been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
RR> true that children read the echo, that is a reason
RR> for banning *discussion* of adult topics. But that
RR> is hardly a reason for banning
RR> advertising of XXX CD disks. After all, Penthouse, Playboy, etc., are
RR> all advertised for sale in all sorts of public venues that children
RR> frequent. They simply can't buy them. The same
RR> rule should hold here.
The title names are just as bad as discussing them...such as GBL for
Gay/Bi/Lezzie, 101 Sex Positions 1 and 2, New Wave Hookers, Legends of Porn,
Dirty Talk, etc.
RR> In my opinion, your advertisers' freedom to seek customers, and your
RR> readers' freedom to find available CD's, has been compromised for a
RR> flimsy reason. (Many BBS's, including those in my area, do not carry
RR> a CDROMSALES echo.) I hope you will allow the simple advertising of
RR> adult titles and prices, while continuing to ban discussion of adult
RR> topics or the material on those disks. That would be fair, and would
RR> be consistent with society's overall acceptance of the mention of
RR> adult titles on magazines, theater marquees, etc.
Bob has the say on all issues on how this conference is run. This echo is not
here to advertise adult CDROM discs or any CDROM discs at all as far as that
goes. Bob has been gracious enough to let us advertise
CDROM discs on a continuing basis. We as vendors are fortunate that he has not
banned sales all together, so I wouldn't push your luck with Bob. He is a real
nice gentlemen and his rules are very tolerable and reasonable.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
* Origin: MAXspeed BBS * 486/66 Mhz ain't FAST enough..!! (1:362/119)
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 3433
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 11:15p
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I finally got a os/2 driver for the mitsumi cd-rom drive but it doesn't
support cd-audio ( only a beta version 1.04 beta). I tried the geramn
beta 1.05 but it doesn't work!
but I notcied I no longer get sound in win-os/2 and I do have the SB
drivers loaded.
If anybody knows what I can do to get sound blaster in win-os/2 again
please post!
--- OverMail v0.82b
* Origin: The DGS System -Viper- EC, Maryland - (410)461-9943 (1:261/1116)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3434
To: MARK WOMACK Date: 09/17/93 5:44p
Subj: Space Quest 4 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Can someone help me get un-stuck in this game? I've been stuck at
-> the same place for 3 weeks now. I'm at the manhole and see the
-> transport landing. Anwhere I go from here I get killed right away.
-> I don't even have time to think. I have several items in my
-> inventory but they don't help a bit. This is so very frustrating!
-> I'm really beginning to hate Sierra games because of this. Getting
-> killed every 3 minutes does not make a game any more fun - it just
-> makes it more of a hassle to play.
-> Any help would be appreciated.
->
->
-> --- Blue Wave/RA v2.12 [NR]
-> * Origin: Zero's Palace BBS - Goldsboro, NC. 1-919-735-4362 (1:3660/
Okay Mark, I was just there, acutally, about 2 weeks ago and what I did
was to click the walk icon outside the manhole and when Roger gets out,
you will find yourself near some bumed up car and then walk just right
and you will have a closeup of the ship you saw land, now use the hand
icon and click near the landing gear hole and Roger will go in and you
will be taken to a base, that is on top of a mountain, then you can go
left and when a new ship appears and the guys have done talking, get
into the ship and then punch in the code of where you wanna go and you
will be all set, they by the way do you have a code sheet, cuz I don't
and just punch any random code and get some place sometimes and
sometimes not, well try that out and tell me what happens, C-ya and
TTYL.
Ashwin
--- WM v2.06 [Eval]/
* Origin: $$$$ Fort Knox BBS $$$$ 2 Nodes <16.8 HST-DS> (1:324/293)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3435
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/17/93 5:47p
Subj: CD's in the background Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> On 09-12-93 Edward Tushar wrote to All...
->
-> ET> Is there a way (or program) that will allow you to listen
-> ET> to CD's while doing other work on the computer? Just
-> ET> wondering. And no, I don't do WINDOWS!<G>
->
-> Edward, there's a program on Night Owl 8 disc that is called CDPLAY2
-> This allows you to do what you want on DOS (it'll also work with Win
-> You should be able to find it on a BBS near you. >Paul<
->
->
-> ... OFFLINE 1.50 "Advanced technology is indistinguishable from magi
->
-> --- Maximus/2 2.01wb
-> * Origin: The Choice BBS, Las Vegas, NV 702-253-6527 HST DS 16.8k (1
Hey Paul, if you have a Mitsumi I can tell you how to do it, if you do
have a Mitsumi the disk that came with it will have a program called
playcd.exe, run that program and place a Audio CD in your drive and
start playing and use the keypad and press 0, or use the mouse and click
on the quit key while the cd is still playing and you will find yourself
back on the dos prompt and you will also see that you have not lost any
memory, C-ya and write back. TTYL.
Ashwin
--- WM v2.06 [Eval]/
* Origin: $$$$ Fort Knox BBS $$$$ 2 Nodes <16.8 HST-DS> (1:324/293)
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3436
To: ALL Date: 09/17/93 5:51p
Subj: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hey all I am in the process of buying a SB PRO or SB 16 to replace my SB
2.0 since I have a CD-ROM and the regular SB cannot handle the CD-ROM
output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a good choice and
worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the CD-ROM games I
have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please tell me about these
card and good and bad<grin> things about these cards. TTYL.
Ashwin
--- WM v2.06 [Eval]/
* Origin: $$$$ Fort Knox BBS $$$$ 2 Nodes <16.8 HST-DS> (1:324/293)
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From: TOM GUELKER Number: 3437
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/18/93 7:47a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF> >Now let say you purchase 10 disks at an average cost of 40 dollars each an
BF> >then buy 10 caddies at a cost of 7.50 each. You would have had to trash
BF> >disks or 20 percent of your programs before buying the caddies will save
BF> >anything above the cost of their purchase.
That's not true, Brice. The tray is not permanently attached to the CD.
You can take the CD out of the tray (as you know) so your 2 discs or 20%
theory is not relevant. Are you paying $7.50 for caddies? That's almost
double the going $4.50 rate for quantities of 5 or more.
I've got two small children that use my computer. The piece of mind I
get with a caddy is worth the extra minimal cost. Try replacing some of
the older CD's no longer available.
Tom
* OLX 2.2 * I may be schizophrenic, but I still have each other.
--- GOMail v1.2 [DEMO] 09-29-93
* Origin: JAFO! BBS Granite City, Il. 618-797-1675 1:2250/26 (1:2250/26)
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From: PHILIP WHEAT Number: 3438
To: GREG SWAN Date: 09/19/93 10:15p
Subj: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> hello all!
> just wonder'd if anyone out here is a amiga user??????
> if so do you have a cd-rom for it? was thinking abt getting one.
> is it worth it?????? what do you think?????? are the games that much
> more
> awesome?????? let me know please.
> thanks!--------------------------------->greg
Greg,
Sorry for the delay, but here's the info for the company.
Corporate Systems Center
1294 HammerWood Ave
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
(408) 734-DISK
They are a clearance center and I picked up that NEC CDR-25 for $159
as a refurb. I don't know if they still have it, but give them a call
and they will probably have something at a good price. If you have
access to a Fax machine, getting them to fax you an inventory list
is the best way to go.
BTW, if you do get a CD-ROM, don't forget you'll need to get a filesystem.
Xetec has a nice one but it's not the only choice you have. Also you MUST
get the Aminet CD-ROM in addition to anything else you're looking at.
Lots of great stuff there.
---
* AmiQWK II 1.0b
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* Origin: OASIS BBS, Mississippi's Internet Connection! oamsbbs.com
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From: PHILIP WHEAT Number: 3439
To: CHRIS DUBOIS Date: 09/19/93 10:15p
Subj: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Subj: Amiga CD32
> Do you have any more specs on this, like what CD-ROM format, how soon
> it
> will be released, etc.
It'll read ISO-9660 and CDXL formats (maybe High Sierra too, I haven't been
able to confirm that one). It should hit the US in either October or November
(conflicting announcements) and the MPEG board should be out the month after.
---
* AmiQWK II 1.0b
--- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff031/a]
* Origin: OASIS BBS, Mississippi's Internet Connection! oamsbbs.com
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From: ROBERT MCGEHEE Number: 3440
To: NEIL RIPSTON Date: 09/19/93 10:48p
Subj: Read Me Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NR> I have the Texel DM 3024 Internal. I am quite happy with the drive
NR> support.
NR> I had a problem after they upgraded it to Photo CD compatibility, an
NR> me a new drive under warranty.
NR> All I can say is I ahd a good experience with Texel.
Thanks bunches, I didn't know if it was a "Worthy" CD-Rom. But thanks.
And I just wanted to get some of the figues straight, everytime I
called the Texel distributer I got different statistics. I just wanted
to know what the access time, transfer rate, and buffer size was. I
have got the access time ranging from 260miliseconds to 280. and the
transfer rate is either 300kb or 330kb and the buffer sizer is either
64k or 256k. You would think they would be nice enough to give me
accurate info. I don't know if you know all of this stuff. I haven't
even heard of those three terms until I started wanting a CD-Rom. Ok,
well thanks a lot.
Robert McGehee
--- TriDog 6.0
* Origin: Bald Eagle BBS * Pearl,MS * (601)939-2836 * v.32b (1:3632/29)
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 3441
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/20/93 3:36a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>BF>Have you bothered asking Bob WHY he has suddenly outlawed "Adult" CD-ROMs
>BF>from this echo?
>No.. but I am curious.. WHY?!?
DW> Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists and moral
DW>do-gooders have once again used their collective might to knuckle under
DW>another "public forum". Or should I say, "censored public forum" now?
DW> <Dripping with acidic sarcasm> Of course, it's in the name of all
DW>what's good and just that they "protect us from ourselves". We all
DW>wouldn't want to end up in hell, now do we? Anyway, don't you know
DW>that naughty pictures will make you a sicko pervert, kill everyone,
DW>turn to a life of crime, and take large amounts of illegal drugs???
DW> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
Dunno but I agree with everything you said. btw, IF there is a hell, and IF
I go there, I intend to have a royal blast. <G>...
l8r,
Scott
___
* MR/2 1.52 NR * If Windows sucked it would be good for something.
--- Renegade v07-17 Beta
* Origin: The Domain (904)291-1883 (1:112/70)
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From: SCOTT DAVIS Number: 3442
To: STEWART ROTHMAN Date: 09/20/93 3:36a
Subj: XXX CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SR>I'm just curious.......Why does there seem to be such a proliforation
SR>of X-Rated CD's ? For those who are into that sort of thing, they can
SR>get much better quality and diversability with VHS Movie cartridges
SR>either for $29.00-$39.00 through the magazine ads or $1.50 to $3.50 per
SR>day at Video rental places. I cannot understand why anyone would tie up
SR>an expensive computer viewing low quality cheescake or porn pix, when
SR>they can get VHS tapes or magazines much cheaper. I'm not against
SR>them or complaining about them being here in the echo, just curious!!!
Because people like their computers. and you can manipulate an image on a cd-r
into say a Windoze or OS/2 desktop. and you gon't have to rewind a tape.
l8r,
Scott
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From: ALEX MOTTRAM Number: 3443
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/20/93 8:08a
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
##
# 7th Guest dosen't work too well on slower drives, CD-Speedway is no
more
# than a cashe, and you can't tell the differance without a stopwatch.
##[SG=>JH]
I'd beg to differ with you on that one. I did run some test on Lightning
CD. For a 9.5 minute game intro, using the cache sped it up by around
30 seconds <grin>. However, for data "searching" on a CD, it sped up by
roughly 30%. Not TOO great considering a 6meg cache in XMS, but it is an
increase. The only thing I've got to complain about is the time I forgot
that I left it in and ran Norton's SPEEDISK on one of my hard drives.
(I usually just use smartdrv, but load LCD when I'm gonna be messing with
a lot of CD stuff). Talk about take a FAT table and make no sense out of
it <grin>..
See Ya,
Alex
##Mmr 2.46#. !link SG 09-19-93 14:13
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From: BRIAN CURNOW Number: 3444
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/18/93 12:27p
Subj: Re: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
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1> Can't pass the boiling water.
TC>
2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
1) Get some lettuce out of the garden...Use it on the water.
2) You don't have the stuff for the castle yet....
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From: GARY KORPAN Number: 3445
To: TONY STOTT Date: 09/18/93 9:44a
Subj: Re: Vancouver? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>>On 09-12-93, Gary Korpan elucidated to Ismail Arslangiray:
>>GK>Combining your humour with such excellent prices is
>>GK> a double threat.
>?! Don't you mean "treat"? or did you really mean "threat"!!<g>
Hi Tony, I meant "a double threat" to his competition! ;-)
But you do have a point...it was a double treat for me...and
no doubt, his other customers.
Cheers
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From: GARY KORPAN Number: 3446
To: ANDRE QUEREE Date: 09/18/93 9:45a
Subj: KODAK PHOTO CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Andre, just an update to your comment to Gordon Fletcher...
PAINT SHOP PRO v.2.0 (just released as PSP200.ZIP) does
handle the Kodak Photo CD graphics format.
Quite an amazing program...if you are into Windows.
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3447
To: DON BOSMAN Date: 09/16/93 1:49p
Subj: Reconsider Prophone93 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DB >RR>I want the PROPHONE 1993 do you have a fax number to order one copy?
>RR>Do you accept credit card?
DB >I'd like to recommend you do some comparisons, first.
>I have ProPhone93, the 7 disc set, and I am greatly disappointed in it.
>I bought it to get the addresses of franchisees of a chain I do business
Thanks for the information, I going to take note about it.
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From: JOHN ENGLAND Number: 3448
To: ALL Date: 09/18/93 4:01p
Subj: Mitsumi crmc-lu005s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have a Mitsumi CDMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive for sale. Only a few months old,
still have receipt, box, and docs. With 16-bit controller card. Will sell for
$150.00 or best offer. I will pay for UPS shipping. (This is not John, this is
Jeff. I can be reached at (215)675-8886 or via this conference.)
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3449
To: GUY R. LANNEWEHR Date: 09/18/93 6:04p
Subj: National telephone direct Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GL>I'm looking for anyone who has any of the advertised national residential
>telephone directory on CD. I believe they come in a set of 3 or so. I
>see that DAK is advertising their set for $149. What other companies
>is selling this type of disk(s) and what is their price?
I have one unopened set of Prophone 1993 available for $69 plus
shipping. It is a 7 disc set including the business and residential
versions. Give me a call if you are interested.
Computer Works Jim...
CD-Rom Sales!
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: DEBBIE MARANTZ Number: 3450
To: PAUL SWIDER Date: 09/19/93 4:50a
Subj: T7g Help Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The number for the Virgin Games BBS is 1-714-833-3305 and they have two current
updates online T7G124 and T7G130. Also, you have me a bit curious, as I had a
STEALTH VRAM in my system until the CDRom was installed and the only problem I
encountered was when I installed T7G, the video throughput numbers were 1% of
optimum, which was a real surprise, since the card supports vram.
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3451
To: GREG SWAN Date: 09/18/93 7:10p
Subj: Re: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 06 Sep 93 Greg Swan wrote to All:
GS> hello all!
GS> just wonder'd if anyone out here is a amiga user??????
Right here. I own an Amiga 600HD and a Amiga 1200.
GS> if so do you have a cd-rom for it? was thinking abt getting one.
GS> is it worth it?????? what do you think?????? are the games that much
GS> more awesome?????? let me know please.
I don't have a CDROM, yet. Waiting for the CD32 drive for the A1200 to
come out very soon now. Have you seen my CD32 titles list? Commodore
expects to have about 75 titles out by Christmas time! Games will be
AWESOME. If you want to check out other CDROM drives, get the October
issue of Amiga World - lots of CD info. I'd wait for a CD32 drive if you
have an AGA system, or buy the CD32 console! You won't be dissapointed.
Gary
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 3452
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 09/22/93 7:37a
Subj: YOUR TAGLINE Refer: 5864
Read: NO Private: No
-> IMO America has been in crisis since Kenndy was shot. Think about
-> 2 unelected presidents. A vice president and a President resigning
-> because of questionable activities. Its not just now, but it's bee
-> going on for over 25 years. Read all about it on a american histor
-> CD
Bullshit. Trashing America to promote a CD is as distasteful as it is
bad marketing...
tim
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 3453
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 8:02a
Subj: CDROM_SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
There's been alot of discussion about CDROM_SALE not being available in
certain areas... I'm going to fix that.
As moderator of CDROM_SALE, it's my responsibility to see that this
echo is made available wherever there's a demand... At present
CDROM_SALE is averaging over 50 messages per day - this in spite of its
limited distribution. Well, we're going to make it available everwhere
& that 50 number is soon going to be 100.
Here's the deal: I'll pay all costs associated with piping the mail to
areas where CDROM_SALE isn't available - like Australia... I would
prefer not to do the actual distribution (though I could) - just paying
for all the costs...
If CDROM_SALE isn't available in your area, contact me & we'll see that
it's made available - on my nickel.
tim
CDROM_SALE moderator
Voice : 404-621-9210
FAX : 404-621-9122
FIDO : 1:133/515
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From: JESSE SCHMELZER Number: 3454
To: SHAWN FULLER Date: 09/15/93 7:07p
Subj: Re: DMR600 & 604X Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message on <11-Sep-93 18:16:22> Shawn Fuller (3:770/145) wrote:
SF> Does anyone use the Pioneer DMR600 and 604X on an Amiga?
SF> Or anyone use it with Starnet BBS software??
SF> I am interested to hear anything back on the Amiga side as I would
SF> like to run one with my BBS on an A3000.
SF> Cheers ... Shawn
SF> *FSED91m*
SF> --- Star-Net v1.02a
SF> * Origin: Outerlimits BBS *** (03)3-889-021. CHCH, NZ (3:770/145.0)
Yes i run the pioneer 604x on my A3000T Will be adding another soon. I run
C-net BBS
Jesse
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3455
To: ALL USERS Date: 09/18/93 12:49a
Subj: Cd for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The Software Toolworks Cd Deluxe 2.
Includes: TST's World Atlas, US Atlas, Reference Library and the game,
The Secret of Monkey Island.
$15 or make me an offer, will ship USPS 2nd day for $2.
Will consider trade.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3456
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/18/93 8:14p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB> I have other discs for sale also. If you leave me your name
NB> and mailing address I can send you a list.
I am interested:
Chris Snyder
RR 4 Box 306
West Frankfort, IL 62896
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3457
To: ERIC HSIAO Date: 09/18/93 8:14p
Subj: Day of the tentacle Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EH> I finished the Day of the Tentacle and now don't know what to do
EH> can. Anybody in the North Carolina area want to do a swap? I'd
EH> like to swap for the 7th Guest or a couple of good shareware disks.
EH> - Eric
I don't have anything to swap, but I would be interested in buying.
Contact me here with a price if interested.
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From: CHRIS SNYDER Number: 3458
To: KEN MATTHEWS Date: 09/18/93 8:14p
Subj: CD's for sale Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KM> Day of the Tentacle 30.00
I'll take it. Let me know how you want to handle it.
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From: JAMES WILLIAMS Number: 3459
To: DAVE WONG Date: 09/18/93 9:08p
Subj: Mitsumi Cd-rom audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW>YOU HAVE TO SWITCH THE PIN AROUND. WHAT I MEAN IS YOU HAVE A FOUR PLUG
DW>CONNECTOR, CORRECT. THE 2 OUTSIDE CONNECTION SHOULD CONNECT TO THE 2
INSIDE,
DW>AND THE 2 INSIDE CONNECTS TO THE 2 OUTSIDE. BOY, THIS SOUNDS CONFUSING
DW>DOESNT IT, BUT ITS NOT. A SIMPLE WAY IS TO GET A Y-PLUG TO DO THE SWITCH.
DW>MAYBE, I'M NOT EXPLAINING THIS RIGHT, BUT IT WORKS
DW>--- Maximus 2.01wb
DW> * Origin: Sea East PC Exchange (1:343/15)
Yea, you got me lost a little there, but thanks anyway. I found a work
around. By getting a Radio Shack 2 RCA plug to Mini, I connected the
drive to a set of small speakers and the sound card thru the Blaster and
my stereo at least this way I have sound. But please send me more info
on changing the audio cable to the adapter card. Gez, don't you just
hate work around :) Thanks all that answered my distress call :)
* OLX 2.1 TD * Press "+" to see another tagline.
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From: ROSS FOCKE Number: 3460
To: NEIL HARFERT Date: 09/20/93 9:33a
Subj: Re: 7TH GUEST Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NH> I'm about to purchase a 486/50v system and will probably get a CD-ROM
NH> the deal. I'm into entertainment programs, and would like a little in
NH> 7th Guest. All I know right now is that it utilizes a 16-bit sound-ca
NH> Please give me a description of the game so that I can decide whether
NH> to order it. Is $55 a good price?, or can I find it cheaper elsewhere
____________________________End Quote________________________________
Neil,
Sorry to but in but I have played 7th Guest and thoroughly enjoyed it!
It is best if you have a fast machine and a high data transfer rate
from your CD, not really neccessary but helps. It is a VR style game
that has many puzzles to solve. If you like other games by Id you will
love this one. I believe that this style of game is the new wave of
gaming. Looking forward to lots more like it. Great graphics and
sound.
Ross Focke
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From: JOE HOWES Number: 3461
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/20/93 2:41p
Subj: CD Speedway Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG> 7th Guest dosen't work too well on slower
SG> drives, CD-Speedway is no more than a cashe, and
SG> you can't tell the differance without a stopwatch.
hmmmm....7th guest runs perfectly fine on my 150k Mitsumi. I mean, it's a
little choppy, but I can suffer with a little choppiness to save the $500 more
it would have consted me for a 300k drive. Maybe next summer when 300k drive
prices are more realistic I'll grab one, but until then, I LOVE my little
Mitsumi!
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3462
To: JOHN ENGLAND Date: 09/20/93 8:49p
Subj: Mitsumi crmc-lu005s Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello John!
18 Sep 93, John England writes to All:
JE> I have a Mitsumi CDMC-LU005S CD-ROM drive for sale. Only a few months
old,
JE> still have receipt, box, and docs. With 16-bit controller card. Will sell
JE> for $150.00 or best offer. I will pay for UPS shipping. (This is not
John,
JE> this is Jeff. I can be reached at (215)675-8886 or via this conference.)
Tell Jeff thanks for calling I will get the money off to him REAL QUICK!
Son can't wait to get it! Please reply as soon as the cd player is in the
mail, Jeff, thank's again!
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3463
To: DAVID CARMICHAEL Date: 09/20/93 8:53p
Subj: External Case For Mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello David!
19 Sep 93, David Carmichael writes to ALL:
DC> I have one of the older MITSUMI 600ms CD-ROM drives which I want to move
DC> from my system to my wifes system. _BUT_ her computer does not have any
DC> open 5.25" drive bays. So what I am looking for is 'EITHER' an external
DC> case for this CD-ROM drive or for her 5.25" Floppy drive [Which she
_MUST_
DC> keep] hooked up to her system. I can not move her systems mother board to
DC> another case as was suggested to me a while back.
Have what you are looking for, I think. This case had my 5.25 floopy in it,
but I upgraded my case. It is real nice, was going to keep it around but if you
can't find one give me a call or reply here. $20 I pay shipping 512-939-9822
Pat
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3464
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/20/93 8:59p
Subj: Busty Babes Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Paul!
10 Sep 93, Paul Collier writes to Pat Rickerson:
PC> $450!! I can get it for $A65! I'm glad I don't live in America.
Well we like it here!
Pat
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From: ERIC ENGELMANN Number: 3465
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 4:12p
Subj: Visual Basic Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
EMS Professional Shareware is now shipping the sixth edition of
its Visual Basic CD-ROM for PC professionals. This is NOT just a
dump of BBS listings and files onto a disk for "hours of fun
searching for things", EMS's products since 1984 have been
designed for the professional who knows time is money, and wants
extensive databases and search programs to help them find
exactly the products they need FAST. The July 1993 CD-ROM has
534 products and the best directory database and search program
in the business. The $59.50 list price includes a free copy of
the 120,000 record PC products database. Voice:301-924-3594,
Fax:301-963-2708, EMail:eengelmann@worldbank.org
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 3466
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/20/93 10:05p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
----------------------------------------
>>MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
>>MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
----------------------------------------
How do I order these two? You take plastic
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 3467
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 10:05p
Subj: Makers of CDS Refer: NONE
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This is going to the makers of CD's (which I am sure there are a few out
there). I just returned from a computer show, and do you know the MAJOR
reason why alot of CD's did not sell at a booth I helped run? Because
the makers had no list of the programs contained on the CD. It does not
have to be a full list, just a run down of some of the major programs on
the CD. Let me ask you a question, would you publish a music CD without
the song listing on the back? If not, then why publish a CDROM with no
list! We lost a lot of sales because we did not know what was on them.
Just an informational letter.
Lee Christopher Wise
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■ TLX v3.00 ■ A 100% right of return both ways.
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3468
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 4:15p
Subj: Cd-List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please i'd like to receive the CD Catalog too.
Send to:
Maurice S. Villarreal
InGraph Sistemas
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx.
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3469
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 4:21p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Yes, i'd like to receive.
Send to:
Maurice S. Vilarreal
InGraph Sistemas
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx.
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3470
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/19/93 4:22p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TC>1> Can't pass the boiling water.
You need to drop to the water, the frozen Lettuce.
SaludOS/2
Hal 9000
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3471
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 4:28p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
Please send me the catalog
Maurice S. Villarreal
InGraph Systems
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3472
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/18/93 3:42p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS >***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS >If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS >Thank you
Ok I like to receive your CATALOG take note of my address.
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx. 78041
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3473
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 10:16p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB > SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB > These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
> titles in stock.
Please send me your complete catalog to
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, TX. 78041
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3474
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/20/93 3:26p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi Ashwin!,
-> -> I know what you mean Henry, I got the InterAction magazine and the
-> -> looks real good and I hope to buy it too, but actually right now m
-> -> are on Police Quest 4, I have never played any of the Police Quest
-> -> sereis so this is my first, hey by the way have you played SPace Q
-> -> 4, the CD-ROM or the regular version, cuz if you have maybe you ca
-> -> me, please write back, C-ya and TTYL.
-> Yeah, I've been getting Interaction since it was the Sierra News
-> Magazine..
-> I have PQ3 and it is absolutely fablulous! My brother is nuts about P
-> too. Yes, I have the entier SP series! It's my favorite! I have it on
-> disk, but still got to the end anyhow.
-> What are you having trouble with? Also, how old are you? I'm 17.
-> TTYL,
-> Henry
-> --- GOMail v1.1 [92-0231]
-> * Origin: Origin Line Not Defined In GOEDIT (1:152/103)
Okay Henry, in Space Quest 4, I got to Space Quest X where I get cought
by some women, wow, anyway they want to torture me but a slug comes and
I save them and they say to go to shopping and I do it, and they leave
me and I cannot find them, anyway I got like 96 buckaziods, a new set of
clothes, a SQ4 hint book and Hint Revealer,a cigar butt and a ATM card,
now I tried to get out of the mall but did not succed and just got shot
so I tried to go into each of the shops and in the aracde a time travel
police came in and I went out, well that's where I am, now what do I do
to get out of here, and I am 16. well hope you can help me, C-ya and
TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3475
To: RICK SHOAF Date: 09/20/93 3:40p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is th
-> JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble w
-> JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks
-> JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) wit
-> JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put o
-> JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there
-> JW>this set-up that might have had this problem and solved it. AKA -
-> JW>it be a bad drive, interface card, Ecte, or am I just hooking it u
-> JW>wrong. Thanks in advance for any help! :)
->
-> Your drive is good and so is the SB Pro. If you have the manual to th
-> SB Pro, look in the back at the schematic drawings, it will give you
-> pin assignments for the audio input. now look at the manual for the
-> Mitsumi. It's pins are a different configuration than the SB Pro. You
-> will need to reverse the wires to something like this...
->
-> Original What it should be
->
-> SB Pro Audio input SB Pro Audio input
-> Pin 1 2 3 4 Pin 1 2 3 4
->
-> 1 2 3 4 2 1 4 3
-> Mitsumi Audio out Mitsumi Audio out
->
-> Look at the manuals to make sure, because I've only done this once, a
-> it was on my brother's computer, not mine, so I'm not sure of the exa
-> connections.
->
->
-> Rick
-> ___
-> X OLX 2.1 X Windows NT.... The Binford 5000 OS!
->
-> --- Maximus 2.01wb
-> * Origin: Wally World Amusement Center (1:226/290)
Well Rick, I also have the same setup that is I have a plaing SB 2.0 and
I use that with my Mitsumi, I can use the Sb perfectly with plain games
which produce mono sound but games which have stereo sound does not
work, and also I cannot send the output from an audio cd from by drive
to the SB since the SB cannot handle that kind of output so if you are
talking about Audio CD then forget it and buy a stereo card, but if you
are talking about games I don't see what your problem is. C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3476
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/20/93 3:45p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
->
-> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if anyon
-> else has a clue?
->
-> 1> Can't pass the boiling water.
well one thing at a time, to get past this part go to the isle of wonder
and near the tomatoes look and you will see iceberg lettuce, use that on
this.
->
-> 2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 t
-> is)
now you cannot get into the castle through the main door, after you have
finished the paint spell, use that on the side of a wall and you will
make a door and use that to get in, but this is at the end of the game.
-> Leave me a note - if ya can help - -> Candid Kid ->
Well if you need anymore help just write to me, C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: KEVIN DONALD Number: 3477
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:54a
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stay away from SB-16 and PAS-16 and Soundman -16. They suck. Get Gravis
Ultrasound. Sell your soundblaster...Gravis rulez...
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3478
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 09/21/93 8:47a
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LP> the news and current affairs. The moderaitor has chosen to eliminate
LP> discuessions of adult oriented material (which I believe is a bad choice)
LP> but so be it. What's bothering me now is all the WANNABE moderators who
LP> just love to get upset and flame whenever they see a X- or XXX in a message
LP> So to all you WANNABE'S out there here's your chance to fufill your destiny
LP> in life and make you dreams come true.
The entire issue over adult titles, discussions is driving me nuts.
Like yourself, the wannabe's can get on my nerves. As a matter of fact
I have a big poster in my office that says, "I only have one nerve left,
don't get on it!" :-)
ALL I am requesting now, is that if anyone should talk about the adult
titles, they do it with some taste and discretion.
I'd give anything if I'd never mentioned it in the first place.
Bob Hall
not so moderately moderating moderator any more.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3479
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 8:53a
Subj: CD-ROM QUESTIONS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Sunny Sydney.......
Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegamite,
a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty, I
could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for
the land of enchantment.....
BOB
:-)
Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3480
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/21/93 8:57a
Subj: KINGS QUEST 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>> YO boris....
BO>>> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet.
BO>>> R u having problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum
BO>Your order was faxed to us on 93/09/02 at 14:55 hrs. Your order was
BO>proccessed the next day and shippied via AIR MAIL at 10:48 hrs.
Boris, do like the rest of us, and use the phone for your order
problems. Tell your customers to do so also.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3481
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/21/93 8:59a
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TO>Hello: Our new Catalog. WE Ship World Wide Express Mail..
10 line limit on any ad in this echo. Please adhere to the rules.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3482
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 9:01a
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>Wont happen again.
Thanks for your cooperation
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3483
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/21/93 9:04a
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>Mr. Hall,
AS>By this you mean, that in advertisements they must, be divided, say the
AS>"Shareware and Games, and non-adult" is ok here and ADULT titles are to
AS>be posted in the CDROMsale Echo? Or are you referring to just the
AS>"discussing" of Adult titles?
After having messages bombard me, right now I don't care. However, I
think that discussing the contents of ADULT titles in an international
echo is not a wise thing to do, it is simply respect to those that do
not want to read it, or have it exposed to minors.
For the sake of some clarity, discuss it in CDROMsale. Tim basically
has no rules, and he says it is ok......
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3484
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/21/93 9:09a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
Nope. I can send you all the copies of pure flame bait, if you want. I
almost feel like I was sent to hell there for a day or two.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3485
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/21/93 9:13a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>Pardon me for butting in but, it seems that the very thing that you are
TT>accusing others of doing, you are doing yourself. In defense of the
TT>moderator, adult material was banned to protect Sysops from setting them
TT>up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist or
TT>do-gooders as you claim.
TT>Is the moderator protecting someone from themselves? Yes, but posting
TT>in another echo is a whole heck of a lot easier on your conscience than
TT>having someones computer confiscated Federal and/or State charges levied
TT>against someone when you know that you were indirectly responsible. A
TT>bit of an inconvience, yes but, responsibilty is more admirable. In
TT>other words, would say something to a person you saw about to step off a
TT>curb into an on-coming car or stand there and shake you head after the
TT>accident?
TT>The information I gave you for the banning of adult discussions was
TT>gleaned from messages in the echo.
I am so impressed with your message, (especially the words "in defense
of the moderator") if you will call me, 1-800-550-3503, I will send you
a free CDROM!!!!!
Bob Hall
still trying to moderately moderate this echo... :-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3486
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/21/93 9:15a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>It appears to have a LOT (everything) to do with the fact that Bob is a
BF>"neighbor" of Tony Davis's....
Call me, 1-800-550-3503 and I'll send you one too!!!!!
Bob Hall
starting to smile a little while moderately moderating this echo.
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3487
To: PAM TEMPLE Date: 09/21/93 9:22a
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PT>Well at this end it came out as only 9 lines - so you continue to be on the
PT>side of the angels.
PT>Cheers,
Well it is about time I do something right! :-)
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3488
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/21/93 9:24a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
there is a 10 line limit on ads in this echo.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3489
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/21/93 9:32a
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR>Thanks for publishing the rules of the echo, Bob. You're doing a good
RR>job.
RR>However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
RR>been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
RR>true that children read the echo, that is a reason for banning *discussion*
RR>adult topics. But that is hardly a reason for banning
Point so noted and taken. Follow some of my reply's today, and see if
you still think my true reason was flimsy.
Anyway, as long as people are discussing with taste, I'm fairly open.
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3490
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/21/93 9:38a
Subj: CONTESTS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ>I once saw (and have since forgotten - dammit) a file description that
BJ>claimed 100's of "smiley face" characters. You don't happen to know
BJ>about it, do you?
Call me, and I'll send you one.
Bob
800-350-3503
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3491
To: SAM BECKWITH Date: 09/21/93 9:39a
Subj: CD-ROMS FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
10 line limit in this echo.
Bob Hall
Moderator
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3492
To: STEVE HODGES Date: 09/21/93 10:15a
Subj: THIS ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SH>Please don't do that Bob. As one of the people who've been around for a
SH>large part of the 8 years this has been running (yep I remember waiting
SH>all week for a couple more messages:-) I would request that you do not
SH>ban ads.
SH>Main reason being that the ads here may be the only ones I see.
no problem. Again, the ads prevail.
BOB
:-)
BTW: How ya been doin?
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3493
To: PAUL COLLIER Date: 09/21/93 10:21a
Subj: ECHO RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PC> Yeh, sounds good to me. The adverts are the only reason I read this echo.
Will keep them up for you....
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3494
To: LAURIE BATT Date: 09/21/93 10:22a
Subj: ECHO INTO ZONE 3 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LB> TS> I have been advised by my sysop that Dave Hatch, who
LB>That was not the impression I got from reading a message in this Echo from h
Well you tell Dave that it will remain the same for a while, and be sure
to tell him, I said hello..
BOB
:-)
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3495
To: DOUG CARPENTER Date: 09/21/93 10:25a
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DC>Bob has the say on all issues on how this conference is run. This echo is n
DC>here to advertise adult CDROM discs or any CDROM discs at all as far as that
DC>goes. Bob has been gracious enough to let us advertise
DC>CDROM discs on a continuing basis. We as vendors are fortunate that he has
DC>banned sales all together, so I wouldn't push your luck with Bob. He is a re
DC>nice gentlemen and his rules are very tolerable and reasonable.
Turning red. I'm flattered. Gosh. (kicking the dirt with my feet)
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3496
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/21/93 10:28a
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> Your argument is specious, Richard. Evidently you don't read this echo
BJ> often enough to understand the real reasons Bob made the decision he
BJ> did, which had nothing to do with any reasoning about children reading
BJ> this echo. His decision centered around his own legal liability related
BJ> to his being the moderator of this echo and residing in a state with
BJ> very stringent laws regarding pornography. Back up and read his last
BJ> post to Lee Noga on the topic.
BJ> Your sense of "fairnesss" is bizarre to say the least. In the several
BJ> months that I've been in this echo (and the For Sale echo where the
BJ> topic is still OK), the language used in "discussions" of adult CDs has
BJ> been much "tamer" than some of the chit-chat, not to mention that used
BJ> in the flames that are hurled between users. You sound like one of
BJ> those unfortunate tortured souls who are plagued with the Ostrich
BJ> Syndrome: "If it isn't talked about, it doesn't exist." Get real.
BJ> Sorry, Bob. Couldn't let that one pass. <EOT>
Gosh..... where were some of you when I first mentioned the situtation?
Wating for the hanging party, the victory party, or the smoke signals
from all the flames??????
Anyway, thanks BOB
BOB
:-)
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From: TIM CANFIELD Number: 3497
To: MARK GUTT Date: 09/21/93 1:00p
Subj: KQ6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am lost as to how to get pass the man with the big eyes.. that would
allow me to continue on the isle of wonder... where do I find this
object..? I have the mint, the flower, the rabbit foot, a poem, a mech.
nightengale and that is about it I think...
Thanks for your help
TLC
Candid Kid out
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From: JACK DIEHL Number: 3498
To: HEATHER KRAUSE Date: 09/21/93 8:49a
Subj: mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
thank you very much jack
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From: CRAIG GAGNER Number: 3499
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/20/93 5:59a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG>In a msg on <Sep1914:10, Craig Gagner of 1:3626/1 writes:
SG>
SG> CG> I am a Tech at a local Computer Store, and we have run into a
SG> CG> problem with the Mitsumi Drives.
SG>
SG> CG> The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
SG> CG> work in a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried
SG> CG> 4 different motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The
SG> CG> same drive will work in a 386 no problem.
SG>
SG> CG> Does anyone know what might have happened ?? I suspect they
SG> CG> changed there firm wear with an upgrade which has caused this
SG> CG> problem..
SG> I run 2 of these on a 486 with no problems, which ver of
SG>MSDEX.EXE are you running?
SG>
SG> -=Stephen=-
SG>
I also run a Mitsumi on my 486 Local Bus 66, but its not a JUNE 93
manufacture date drive. I use MSCDEX that came with DOS 6 and all is
well, its the new drives there sending us !
We have decided to go with the Panasonic 562 drive and stop using the
Mitsumi drives, there loss as we probably sold half a dozen a week...
Later Craig
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3500
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/19/93 11:04p
Subj: Re: CD32 Info 2/2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Thanks for the info, Gary. Looks like the rumor of a floppy-ready expansion
port was greatly exaggerated. :-/
I think it's too bad. I'm not sure when the proper connectors are going to
be available to turn the CD32 into a full fledged computer. I guess I won't
buy one after all. At least, not right away.
Please keep us updated if you get any further information.
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From: RAY COOK Number: 3501
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 5:02p
Subj: The 7th Guest CD game 4-SAiL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
The 7th Guest CD Game
Complete with all manuals, Video tape
`The making of The 7th Guest', and
CD's still sealed in orininal plastic.
$ 45.00 (prepay and I'll pay shipping)
Contact Ray Cook (303) 429-1854 (denver, colorado)
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From: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Number: 3502
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 4:00p
Subj: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone have the price for the new Mitsumi double speed CD player? It
has a transfer rate of 300k and access of 280. This is the new CD player that
Gateway 2000 is selling with their systems.
TIA, Stephen
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 3503
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/20/93 9:15a
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to David Wills <09-18-93 12:28> Tyrone Thomason wrote:
TT>> adult material was banned to protect Sysops ....
TT>> up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist
BINGO ! YOU speak the truth, and let me add you are most correct--This echo is
monitored by outside agencies, and I would imagine what is said here can and
will be used against whomever--
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: KEVIN HOFFMAN Number: 3504
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/08/93 11:40a
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Brian...
In a note to All <09/14/93> Brian Rychlicki wrote:
BR> I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a CD562B o
BR> my system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram, and a Sound Blas
BR> Pro. No luck reading disks.
My first guess would be an I/O address conflict. IRQ conflicts can also
cause your problem but they're a lot easier to spot. When I do adapter
card installations the first thing I do is use a diagnostic package to
map the system's IRQs, DMAs, upper RAM and I/O addresses. Most of the
problems I've found result from I/O conflicts and they're usually the
hardest to find. I also pull the cards to match jumper settings with
the diagnostics tests.
Something else to be aware of is that most diagnostic software won't
spot all IRQs, DMAs, and I/O addresses already in use because they
aren't initialized until the item calling them is used so you may get a
report stating that some item is available when in fact it's assigned
but dormant at the time of the test... any diag software worth it's salt
will show what ROMs have been loaded into upper RAM.
Two devices can share the same IRQ under the right conditions... usually
only one device can be in use at a time.
Few diagnostic packages list the proper I/O address matchup to the
corresponding device/software.
Each card in the computer should be pulled and inspected for it's
various settings... record each item's settings.
Another blind side can come when two devices are assigned to the same
IRQ... diagnostic software usually reports the first item to grab the
IRQ and doesn't see the second device on the same IRQ.
Once all cards are mapped be sure to keep a hard copy of that system for
future additions and trouble shooting. You should also add to your
hard copy any available IRQs, DMAs, I/O addresses, and open high RAM
areas to make future upgrades easier.
Hope this helps...
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3505
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/20/93 6:19p
Subj: Re: Good deal? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello there,
Here's my opinion. Go ahead and get the Mitsumi and use your SB Pro.
My reasons are that you'll get a faster drive and you will already have a
good sound card. You never know what to expect from a "SB/Adlib/etc"
compadible card. Also you can get better programs than what they are
offering, for very good prices.
But of course the most important thing I see is that Mits is twice as fast as
that other drive!
Hope I helped and Read Ya Around,
CAT
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3506
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Date: 09/20/93 6:21p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Cat here,
Love to get one of your catalogs!
C. Alvarez Jr
348 Chutney Dr
Orlando, FL 32825-3612
Thanx and Read Ya Later,
CAT
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3507
To: DAVID RICE Date: 09/20/93 6:45p
Subj: GIFs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DR>Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have been looking
>everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give me pricing on it too
>if you can. Thanks in advance.
GIF's Galore is $15.00 from Computer Works. Give us a call if you are
interested.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3508
To: GUY OMER Date: 09/20/93 8:37p
Subj: Cd-rom For Spitfire Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
GO> I'm a SpitFire sysop and am -always- looking for new/best CD's for my
>system. Clearly CD's with SFFILES.BBS 'work' best for me. Please also
>note: price <drat> is also important.
Hi Guy. I run a Spitfire BBS also and have found the So Much Shareware
series to be the easiest to setup of all the CD-Roms I have seen. Are
you familiar with them? So Much Shareware 3 will even install Spitfire
and/or SF-Rom onto your hard drive and install itself into the SF-Rom
configuration. That's hard to beat! The file selection is very nice
and includes an entire directory dedicated to Spitfire utilities.
I'll send you a catalog in the mail. Let me know if you have any
questions.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3509
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/20/93 8:57p
Subj: Good deal? Refer: NONE
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CB>Or I could get a Mitsumi 300ms drive (I dont know the KBS, probably 300)
>for $210 (internal)
CB>Which is a better deal? Which would you get? (I would use it mainly for
>games and education)
Personally, I would get the Mitsumi and fix the wire connector to work
with the SB Pro. You can get a better deal on the Mitsumi. The lowest
price I have seen advertised is $175, so I will match that if you are
interested.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: TOM ARRUDA Number: 3510
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 8:06a
Subj: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE
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Does any body know what the release date for Rebel Assault is ??
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From: NIEL EYDE Number: 3511
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 10:25a
Subj: $99 CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
For any lurkers interested in getting into CDROM, check out your local
Radio Shack. I've just picked up one of there CDR-1000 for $99. The
drive won't break any speed records, but if your interested in shareware
CD's you may want to check it out. By the way, it is also MPC compliant,
although it will run a tad-bit slow. There are closed-out so you way have
to do some digging. In my case I had to prepay for one, and they got it
in within a couple of days.
For $99 it makes a great spare CD-ROM drive too!!
Niel
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3512
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/19/93 5:02a
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hi Mike!,
-> I'm very impressed with this CD. Loaded with sound/music files in sev
-> formats like WAV, VOC, ROL, SND, MOD, etc, and also includes lots of
-> utilities, music editors, demo programs, Adlib/Soundblaster applicati
-> synthesizers and the like. It is BBS-ready, so you should have no
-> problem using it on your BBS. In stock at $20 each if you're interes
That sounds good! I'll keep it in mind.
Do you have any catalogs?
If so,
1914 N.E. Crestview Pl.
Newport, OR.
97365
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3513
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/19/93 5:07a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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Hi Neil!,
I'll take a catalog!!!!
P.O. Box 1948
Newport, OR.
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 3514
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/17/93 12:31a
Subj: Re: SUPER SERIES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
> IA>Ask for Super Series from your nearest dealer or call us;
> Ismail, you know there is a 10 line limit....
> Thanks.
> BOB
Ooops!..Sorry
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 3515
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/20/93 6:33a
Subj: Re: Super Series Refer: NONE
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> Hi! Ismail
> Please, as soon as possible send me the prices of the following CD'S
> Super Games for Windows Vol. II
> Super_CD Shareware Library III (coming soon)
> Super Programmer (will be ready 19 Sept. 93)
Hi Roberto,
This week most of our customers will receive a catalog from us. Our 16 page
catalog even is not enough to list everything we got :-) TTYL
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From: JOHN PENDLETON Number: 3516
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/21/93 12:44a
Subj: Atari & CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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JR> So, are you saying that MINT and MultiTOS are
JR> basically the exact same thing?
JR>
MultiTOS is based on MINT, Yes.
JR> RE: MINT & SCSI-PRO on the STe
JR>
JR> I'm not clear on one thing, you're running a SCSI CD-
JR> ROM drive on your STe, right? But I didn't think
JR> that SCSI was built into any of the Atari computers
JR> except the TT and Falcon030. Is that right?
That is also correct. ICD puts out an interface card that allows the use of any
SCSI device. As long as you have the proper drivers. The latest software
available allows the use of the newer removeable media devices (Floptical,
Magne-optical, etc...) As well as the CD-ROM.
John
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 3517
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 3:18p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Thanks...
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3518
To: POE LIM Date: 09/20/93 6:52p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
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Hi Poe!
On 09-18-93 Poe Lim wrote to Rowan Evans...
PL> Hello Rowan,
PL>
PL> On Sep 14 20:40 in a msg to Michael Cooper, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413
PL> wrote:
PL>
PL> > You'd be disappointed with the throughput of a SCSI CD-ROM after
PL> > seeing a CR562B in action!
PL>
PL> I really have to try this bit out; must get a 562B and run
PL> it against my 3401 to rate throughput. And I wonder how
PL> would the CR-503 compare; it would be the easiest solution
PL> as I don't have to get a new soundcard, and I can take 2
PL> more SCSI devices.
Please do! I'd be *MOST* interested in the results. Until then, I'll stand
by my statements that SCSI CD-ROMs are slow compared to the CR-562B/CR563!
Using the CR503 is a bit unfair to the other CD-ROM drives though - it has
a 256Kb buffer according to the spex....
PL> > SB 2.0 compat..) and the SB16 ASP comes out a close third with the
PL> > option of the Wave Blaster wave table synthesis daughter card and
PL> > will allow the attachment of a CR562B, so I went with the SB16 ASP!
PL> > Haven't been disappointed yet!
PL>
PL> How's the sound like for the SB16 ASP? I've read some people saying
PL> it's not that good, and doesn't do SB Pro and you'd be better off
PL> with the PAS 16, then others say it's pretty good.
Well, I do believe that the sound output of the PAS in 16-bit mode is a
little better than the SB Pro or 16/16 ASP, but the difference is not
*THAT* great and a poor set of speakers on either card will make it
appear worse than it is!
PL> From memory you may have had the chance to compare the two; just
PL> wondering if it's worth it going that way, or I'd be better
PL> off with a SB Pro first, and wait for the new OPL.
As you're already running a SCSI CD-ROM, why not look at the new, cheaper
PAS 16 without the SCSI host adapter??
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3519
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/20/93 6:55p
Subj: Re: Panasonic CD drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Tom!
On 09-16-93 Tom Bulum wrote to Rowan Evans...
TB> -=> Rowan Evans was heard mumbling to Gaetano Calia about
TB> -=> Re: Panasonic CD drive<=-
TB>
TB> RE> Depends on what you're looking at... The 4.0 SBCD.SYS was plenty
TB> RE> fast, but would "jerk" in T7G when moving & playing sound...
TB> RE> 4.10 beta & 4.11 appear to have fixed the problem.....
TB>
TB> I've got SBCD.SYS V4.11 but I use another file,
TB> SBPCD_V2.SYS which is version 2.00 . Any ideas which one is better?
Haven't seen the SBPCD_V2.SYS driver.... I'll have to logon to the
Creative Pacific BBS and see if its there.... What does it say about
the CD-ROM drives it supports? The older SBPCD.SYS did not work with
the CR-562B/CR563 drives (so Steve Harrington told me!).....
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3520
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/20/93 7:29p
Subj: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi Boris!
On 09-18-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to All...
BO> )))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
BO> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
^^^
Why then does my manual for the above-mentioned CD-ROM drive say 320ms
in double speed mode?? <g>
o
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3521
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 5:21p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16Xl Refer: NONE
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RE> Wavetable wasn't (still isn't) a priority, however it's nice to know
RE> that I can connect a Wave Blaster to my SB 16 ASP when it does becom
RE>so!
Do yourself a favour, hear a few of your favourite games with a decent
wavetable synth. Waveblaster is a dead-end product, mainly because it is
all ROM and no RAM, so you (or game developers) can't add custom samples
and patches. The PAS-XL will have both RAM/ROM, which is certainly
superior to the WB. The problem with ROM based patches, is that you
start hearing the same instruments in all your games...
RE> As for the two wavetable cards you mentioned, the GUS SCSI is *STILL
RE> not available and I don't know whether the Roland has CD-ROM support
RE> onboard.....
Whats the issue here? There are plenty of good SCSI controllers
avaiable. This is a popular misconception, the CD rom controller does
NOT have to be on the soundcard, it is quite independent. A dedicated
SCSI card will be of a higher quality than one on a Soundcard anyhow.
I am using a GUS with a TEXEL 3024 drive, and an Adaptec SCSI card. No
probs.
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 3522
To: LEE NOGA Date: 09/19/93 3:27p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
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Hi Lee,
With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort to
remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine? I saw well
over 50 in the Busty Babes I have here. I saw next to none from
Penthouse, but plenty from Playboy.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au
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From: SCOTT GOLBY Number: 3523
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 3:29p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi there,
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
If you can Netmail or EMial it, I'll take one thanks.
Please send to. Scott Golby 3:713/616 (Fidonet)
or sgolby@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Internet)
Thanks.
'C' ya... Scott Golby
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3524
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/19/93 4:43p
Subj: panasonic 562b Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
AW>> Well that last line is wrong. If I unplug the cable connecting the
AW>> CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio piece is playing, I
AW>> lose all sound. How can the line-in be for recording purposes =only=?
RE> What type of Audio piece are we talking about here Alan?? I mean, you're
RE> getting pretty strict at correcting me (I don't mind it if I'm wrong
RE> <g>).. and then you don't provide sufficient info to let me know
*EXACTLY*
RE> what you're doing!
I agree that I could have been clearer. The audio I mentioned is the audio
from multimedia applications and not audio CD.
AW>> There's no doubt that SB 16 or SB pro are good
AW>> solutions for the 562B in that they can used for the interface card as
AW>> well as sound but for me at least, there doesn't seem to be any point
AW>> in upgrading a SB mono card that is currently providing perfectly good
AW>> sound. When I want to listen to Audio CD's, I reach around and unplug
AW>> the cable from the line out on the SB and plug it into the 'phone'
AW>> jack on the CD-ROM drive. Big deal.
RE> There appears to be some contradiction here.... You said earlier "unplug
RE> the cable connecting the CD-ROM to the line-in on the SB whilst an audio
RE> piece is playing"... and now you say you have to move the speaker cable
RE> from line out to the headphone socket of the CD-ROM to hear an audio
RE> CD...
I have a cable running from the external red & white connectors on the
CD-ROM interface card to the line-in on the SB mono. This cable appears to
provide the audio - from MM apps NOT audio CD's ;-), and if I unplug that
cable whilst the MM app is running, the sound is abruptly cut off. This was
my basic test to prove that the line-in wasn't just for recording purposes
as had been suggested.
RE> What gives??
I have two choices when I want to listen to audio CD's through the 562-b.
Either unplug the cable from the line out on the SB and move it to the jack
on the front of the CDROM drive, or plug a set of headphones into the 562b
jack.
RE> 1. The mono SB 1.0/1.5/2.0 WILL provide sound for multimedia
RE> applications and, unless you want stereo sound and a CD-ROM
RE> controller on the sound card, you don't have to buy anything
RE> else....
RE> 2. The mono SB (etc) WILL NOT allow you to hear Audio CDs though
RE> the speakers connected to the SB, even if you have the CD-ROM
RE> drive headphone jack connected to line-in of the SB and [MCI]
RE> CD Audio loaded....
RE> Is this correct from your testing?? If so, please advise so that the
RE> correct (and verified) information amy be passed on to anyone who asks!
This looks pretty clear Rowan. I have to admit I haven't tested whether the
second part of point 2 would work (I don't have a male-male connector). I
think I'd be willing to bet dollars that it wouldn't work.
Regards, Alan
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3525
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/19/93 5:07p
Subj: Panasonic 562b + Sb Mono Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan!
AW>> Just as a matter of interest, how clear is the Audio in your
AW>> encyclopedia using SB 16 ASP? I'm finding the sound quite clear
AW>> through a SB mono, but distortion in the upper and lower ranges is
AW>> quite evident in some of the classical music selections. The animal
AW>> and bird sounds seem crystal clear though.
RE> I think its more the speakers than the sound card, as I like to hear
RE> my Audio CDs fairly *LOUD* and have had a lot of trouble finding a
RE> set of speakers that will cope!
I'm mostly just plugging headphones into the jack on the 562b for audio
CD's. It doesn't drive them as loudly as the typical audio portable CD
player does though. I'm quite impressed that playing an audio CD in the
background has such little impact on Window's performance.
The classical music I mentioned was one of the selections in the STW MPC
encyclopedia. I found the distortion quite evident and just wondered how
much more superior the SB 16 ASP was for MM applications.
Regards, Alan
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3526
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/20/93 2:34p
Subj: FOR SALE-CD ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Both...I can help you with any size order....Large or Small!!!
Thanks,
Neil
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3527
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 8:35p
Subj: SPECIAL CD-ROM PRICES!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES!!!
These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
titles in stock.
WINWARE III $15.53
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MONSTER DISC(2-DISCS SHAREW.) $36.23
OUR SOLAR SYSTEM $14.66
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HAM RADIO $14.66
CARMEN SAN DIEGO DELUXE $22.43
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WORLD ATLAS (MPC OR DOS) $15.53
KODAK PHOTO CD $15.53
ANIMALS MPC (SAN DIEGO ZOO) $20.70
DAGGER OF AMON RA $32.78 TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
KINGS QUEST V $16.74
LOOM $14.66 FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
SUPER SHAREWARE/w/SUPER BBS $31.05 E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
TERRORIST GROUP PROFILES (CIA) $31.91 ADDRESS!!!!
NIGHT OWL 9 $30.19
UP ALL NIGHT $18.11
***ADULT***
(MUST BE 18 OR OLDER!!!)
L.A. STRIPPERS (NEW) $44.95 FULL MOTION VIDEO ALBUM(INTERACT)
HIDDEN OBSESSIONS $53.48 FULL MOTION VIDEO
ASIAN LADIES $31.91 (BBS READY)
THINGS CHANGE:MY FIRST TIME $37.09 (XXX 80 MIN FULL MOTION VIDEO)
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From: GIL MACHIN Number: 3528
To: ERIC CASSIMATIS Date: 09/20/93 5:23p
Subj: Mitsumi CD ROM Drive; So Refer: NONE
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Think Hard Now! Which One is Shinola?
m
EC>- It has an output jack in the front, with a volume control.
EC>- This CDROM does not have a SCSI device, but rather an 8-bit card wit
EC>some dip switches, two sets of pins (irq and DMA), and a 40 (I think)
EC>pin flat-ribbon cable coming out of it
EC>- It, most importantly, doesn't have a caddie! You press the face of t
EC>CDROM, it clicks out and you then pull the remainder out, open the top
EC>up and plop the CD into the casing ....
EC>
EC>If this is so, please confirm - or ANYone else out there. I need to
EC>know, so that I can get the mitsumi drivers for OS2.1 .... otherwise I
EC>don't make the transition!
Eric:
The LU 005S has a 16 bit interface card. I think the Tandy drive is an
older drive, same as LU 002? the physical description of the Tandy and the
LU 005S are the same case types. I thinl that OS/2 dravers are aviable but
are third party commerical ($). I do not know of a source,keep reading the
echo somebody will have a source. Gil
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From: DOUG SCHWANTES Number: 3529
To: JAMES WILLIAMS Date: 09/19/93 7:02a
Subj: Mitsumi/SB Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi James,
I also have a Mitsumi drive and think it's great (for a non-2x speed drive).
I have mine connected to a SBPRO Deluxe but I think this may help. I
have the Mitsumi's 4 pin connector from the drive hooked up to the Mitsumi's
interface card, then hookup the RCA line from the back of the Mitsumi's
interface card to the Sound blaster's IN line, (I'm not sure your Sound
Blaster
has an IN line), this works great and you only need one pair of speaker's.
I to have tried to connect the Mitsumi's 4 pin connector to the SoundBlaster's
4 pin and it didn't work. But if anyone knows a different way to do this
please
let me know.
I hope this helps you Jim, keep us posted!
=Doug=
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3530
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi Boris!
>>
>> On 09-13-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to Chris Wood...
>>
BO>> BO>> ORDER LINE ONLY - 800-243-0517 - TECH - 216-225-3263 - FAX -
BO>> BO>> 216-225-6759
BO>>
BO>> >> Ever consider making that 800 number a North America wide toll
BO>> >> free line? Us folks up here in Canada give you some business
BO>> >> don't we? <grin>
BO>>
BO>> Already done Chris !! Should be Online sometime this week, but it
BO>> will be and ORDER LINE ONLY and we will not give out product support
BO>> nor offer any price comparisions. It will strickly be so our friends
BO>> in Canada will be able to place an order without any international
BO>> long distance costs.
>>
>> How about 0014 (International Toll-Free from Australia)
>> support.....
>> You have keen prices, but I wouldn't like to get hung on a
>> phone queue waiting to order...... <g>......
>>
We're looking into it and we'll post it as soon as we decide if it would
be worth the investment.
Thank you for your interest !
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3531
To: ROB LIBRIZZI Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: NEW CD'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris,
>> What date(s) are on the DR series of CD's. are they
>> 1992-1993, mostly 1993 or are there a bunch of 1991 & 1992
>> files ???
Mostly 92-93 and very few 91's....
If we can be of any further help, please feel free to call us at
216-225-3263 anytime.
Hope this helps......
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3532
To: KEN UHRICK Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=>> Quoting Boris Osadciw to Bob Jackson <=-
>>> Unfortunately, Ismail's not alone. This CD is being hawked to
>>> sysops in several adult echos/links as "New, Hot, and BBS
>>> Ready". I tried to warn them (hawkers). Told them to read the
>>> back of the jewel case (copyright notice); told them to look
>>> at the "FILES.BBS" files (they're there but useless); etc. I
>>> was told rather impolitely to buzz off. I guess Blaine's got
>>> his work cut out for him (sigh). --- FreeMail 1.07b
BO>> Well, let's put a warning lable on it ...."Southern Beauties - If
BO>> placed on any BBS systems for users access, they will be suide by Blain
BO>> Richards, no if ands or butt's <- sorry for the pun!"
BO>> That'll get there attention !!
>> I FELL that sellers need to tell users that its not a bbs
>> disk befor selling it too sysops
I totally agree and we do tell our customers if a cd is BBS ready, even
those like Shareware 1993 - Games 1883 and Windows 1993 ( which we don't
carry ) we explain that these cd's require a lot of work to get them to be
BBS ready, even though they say thier BBS Ready.
>> i MITE BE NUTTS but the sellers dont care or some thing it
>> that sell A non bbs cd-rom AS bbs ready
In our case, we DO CARE about our customers and we'll do whatever we can
to make them happy.
Later.....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3533
To: PHILIP MARTELLI Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: Educational CD-ROM Software, Software for partially Sighted Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> I work for an Educational Trust fund that is always looking
>> for new software on CD-ROM. Our main requirement is that the
>> software has real classroom value, not just a pretty toy.
>>
>> In particular we are interested in text databases,
>> dictionaries, encyclopaedias etc, that do not use a graphical
>> interface - as certain hardware used for partially sighted
>> students cannot handle GUIs.
We have an author that is currently working on just such a CD!
We'll post the info as soon as it's ready for shipping.
Need any additional information, please netmail us to the address
below or call us direct at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to
assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3534
To: ANTON SWART Date: 09/20/93 2:16p
Subj: Re: Thanx Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> THanx i got KQ6 2dya
>> pleasure doing bizzness!
>> cheers
>> l8ta
Glad to hear it!!
Enjoy....
Boris Osadciw
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 3535
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/19/93 9:06p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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I'm not sure what the release date is here in America, I'm pretty sure
it has been released in Europe already, so it shouldn't be too far off.
There are many ways to network the Amiga with other computers, the most
used is Novell, I don't think that Novell can be used across a SCSI port
BUT I am almost positive that there is a Novell network card for the
PCMCIA card slot (if it's not already out, it will be VERY soon).
Peter Lasne
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From: LEE WINSOR Number: 3536
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/19/93 7:27p
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris,
-> in Qedit. Also the only way to find out the file area names was to
-> use the ACCESS.EXE file browsing util that came with it. It made it a
-> tad more annoying to set up the filearea.ctl entries.
Actually, if you go into the \Sysops\pcboard subdirectory, the file
named 'DIR00ASC' has a list of all the file area names. I'm afraid I
neglected to include a copy of this file in the directories for other
BBS types.
For your benefit as well as other Sysops who purchase the Shareware
Explorer, there is another glitch that we were just informed of.
On DOS Explorer Volumes #1 & #3, (but not on the other volumes),
the FILES.BBS for directory \A036 is duplicated in directory \A037.
This error may be corrected in one of the following ways:
1) The file 'DIR37' in the \sysops\pcboard subdirectory may be
converted to files.bbs format via one of the included conversion
peograms for your bbs type.
2) You may call our support BBS at (203) 738-0342 and download the file
'XPLR_FIX.ZIP' (size=9k) which contains corrected files.bbs entries.
Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused, but it seems no matter
how hard you try, 'Murphy' always gets the last laugh.... <g>.
\-Lee-/
New Frontiers CD-ROMS
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From: ADAM GOODE Number: 3537
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/19/93 3:26p
Subj: Re: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
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TC> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
TC> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if
TC> anyone else has a clue?
1>> Can't pass the boiling water.
2>> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
TC> is)
TC> Leave me a note - if ya can help -
TC> Candid Kid
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TC> 16.8k (1:282/85)
1) Get an Iceberg lettuce from the Isle O' Wonder and plop in the the
water. That should cool it off! (But hurry, or else the lettuce will
melt!)
ADAM GOODE
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From: ADAM GOODE Number: 3538
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/19/93 3:26p
Subj: Re: 16-Bit Sound Cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AE> Hi,
DP>> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
DP>> 8-bit card sound better?
AE> Nope.
AE>
DP>> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
DP>> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
DP>> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
DP>> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
AE> 16bit cards are only good for recording and playing back 16bit
AE> digital voices. There aren't currently any games (except maybe
AE> 7th guest) that have 16bit sound (voices) on them. They take up
AE> too much space.
DP>> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
DP>> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
DP>> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
AE> The ASP is a processor that enable compression and manipulation
AE> of Sound. Good for voice recognition and storage of large sound
AE> bytes but not much else.
AE>
DP>> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
DP>> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
DP>> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
DP>> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
AE>
AE> don't know much about the new PAS16 series sorry.
AE> See ya Adam
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For the PAS16, you don't need the driver program. Except maybe
MVSOUND.SYS. This comes with the card and doesn't take much memory. The
PAS16 directly emulates the Sound Blaster. It's like haveing two cards
in one! The old PAS (8-bit) required software emulation of the Sound
Blaster. This type wasn't too good.
ADAM GOODE
... No, Taco Bell is NOT the Mexican telephone company!
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From: BOB DUNN Number: 3539
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 10:35p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please lea
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Bob Dunn
51 Hubbell Ave
Ansonia, CT 06401-1329
Thanks
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From: DONALD NELSON Number: 3540
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 6:57p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to a sound
blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3541
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/20/93 4:02p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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Boris:
I've seen many posts on the board from you. Can you answer a couple of
technical questions:
1. Is there a quad-speed system coming out in the next few months?
2. Does the Pioneer 604X plan to upgrade?
3. Is the Pioneer kodak CD compatible?
4. Will the Pioneer work with a PAS-16?
5. Are there any other multi-drive systems on the market?
6. Can you send a catalog?
1221 Clover Ridge Court
Rapid City, SD 57701-2117
More than a couple of questions, but thanks in advance for the help.
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3542
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/20/93 4:02p
Subj: Government Laws on CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Simon was overheard saying:
SM>>Do you know of any legislatures who are planning on starting schemes
where
SM>>they put any Acts (laws that have been passed and are in force), Codes
and
SM>>Regulations on CD-ROM discs, making these laws available for public
SM>>browsing at their public libraries, or for sale / hire to interested
SM>>citizens e.g. lawyers and students.
Just read about a new service that puts court cases on CD-ROM. It allows
for easy searches of related cases. The example was given of a lawyer who
spent half a day finding a precedent. Using the CD-ROM she found it and
two others (one better than the one she found) in 10-15 minutes. I guess
it is only a matter of time.
I also read that the Social Security Admin put their code on CD-ROM and it
almost brought the organization down because it pointed out the
contradictions in the rules. I'd like to see it on the tax laws!
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3543
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/20/93 4:02p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-16-93 09:08 Adrian Salas was heard to say:
AS>>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
your
AS>>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Please send me a copy:
1221 Clover Ridge Court
Rapid City, SD 57701-2117
Thanks.
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From: LESLIE RHORER Number: 3544
To: SHAWN FULLER Date: 09/21/93 8:27a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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LR> SF> I understand the 604X is faster, is that all the difference?
LR>
LR> No, it is SCSI-2, and does Multi-session photo-CD, as well
LR> as play audio CD's.
SF> By multi-session does that mean each CD is ready to read, so the CD Drive
SF> dosn't have to change to another cd? (6 CD Players in the one machine?)
No, it means that one can go get multiple sets of pictures written to
the CD, and the drive can read them all. Not all CD-ROM drives can do this.
Access to different discs in the caddy are sequential with a significant
loading time, not simultaneous.
Les
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From: MIKE SMITH Number: 3545
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/22/93 12:48a
Subj: Cd-Rom Disk Cache Refer: NONE
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RR>CW:>Doug Schwantes wrote in a message to All:
RR>CW:>DS> Does anyone out there know of a good disk cache for a
RR>CW:>DS> CD-ROM?
RR>CW:>Norton Speedcache 4.0+ will do the job nicely for you. Otherwise
RR>CW:>you could always buy OS/2 2.1 GA, it has built in CDROM drive
RR>caching of course..<g>.
RR>CW:>Cheers...
RR>CW:>Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
RR>The Mitsumi CD-ROM Works with OS/2 2.1
RR>you don't need special drivers?
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RR>(4:971/1)
Yes, the Mitsumi needs a driver for OS/2 and The Norton Speedrv+ 4.07
(not The Norton Speedcache+ 4.0 (NEW VERSION)) works great.
Mike Smith
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3546
To: RODOLFO VAZ Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: DR. CD Collection Refer: NONE
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BO>> nor offer any price comparisions. It will strickly be so our friends in
BO>> Canada will be able to place an order without any international long
BO>> distance costs.
>> OH God ... We (Brazilians) don't have this benefit :(((
>> Hi Boris,
>> did you get my NETMAIL ? Well, I've got your NETMAILs
>> (both), but I was on a trip (working in Sao Paulo), so
>> I just sent the reply two days later ... O.K. ? I'm waiting
>> for the CDs ... Oh, if possible, send a complete catalog with
>> the CDs, O.K. ?
BO>> Boris Osadciw
>> Thanks for your VERY VERY VERY fast reply !
>> Rodolfo Vaz
Nope a problem, glad we were able to help.....
Hope we'll be hearing from you again real soon....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3547
To: BENNY FOSTER Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: CD-Rom Drives Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Anyone know of good sorces for the Panasonic CD-Rom drives
>> (CR-562)? I am looking for aprox 10-20 at a time. I am also
>> always looking for new and good sorces for CD-Rom disks. Any
>> help would be appreciated.
Give us a call and maybe we can help you out as we do sell the
Panasonic units complete with interface for only $250.
You can reach us at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3548
To: DAVID RICE Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: GIFs Refer: NONE
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>> Hello All!
>> Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have
>> been looking everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give
>> me pricing on it too if you can. Thanks in advance.
Give us a call David at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and I know
we can help as we do have the above in stock for $20.
Hope this helps....
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3549
To: SOPH PETROU Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi CD ROM Refer: NONE
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>> Hi All,
>> Does anybody know if 2 Mitsumi cd roms can be daisy
>> chained off a SOUND GALAXY NXPRO?
>> THANX IN ADVANCE, SOPH.......
Nope !!! You need one controller per unit !!
Hope this helps....
Boris Osadciw
... Happy as a Pig in Mud!
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3550
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 12:56a
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
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**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
Chinon Int 340ms Kit - $359.00 Chinon Ext 340ms Kit - $449.00 - SCSI
Panasonic 562 Int Kit - $249.00 Phillips Int 400ms Bare $185.00 -SCSI
Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
Texel Int 245ms Bare Dr - $369.00 Texel Ext 245ms Bare - $469.00 -SCSI
Texel Int Complete Kit - $469.00 Texel Ext Complete - $569.00 -SCSI
Toshiba Int 3401B Bare - $399.00 Toshiba Ext 3401B Bare- $499.00 -SCSI
Mitsumi Int 350ms Kit - $195.00 Mitsumi w/Sound Card - $325.00 -PRPR
Groilers Encyc DOS v5. / Windows v1. $50. ALL ChestNuts CD's $11.00ec
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3551
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 12:57a
Subj: RED HOT Refer: NONE
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$$$$$$$ R E D H O T C D' S A T R E D H O T P R I C E S $$$$$$$
POWERBOX OR WINDOWS - $20 COMPTONS ENCYC UPGRADE - $95.
GAME OR SOUNDWARE - $25. ALL CHESTNUT TITLES - $12.
HACKER CHRONICAL - $18. JOKES/PRANKS - 1001 UTIL - $10.
NIGHT OWL 9.0 - $25. KINGS QUEST VI - $47.
SO-MUCH-SHAREWARE 3 - $29. TOOLWORKS ENCYC DOS/WIN - $49.
SHAREWARE EXPLORER - $59. 9000 SOUNDS - $25.
SOFTWARE VAULT 2 - $20. 5 STAR PREM DOS/WIN - $29.
DR.CD COLLECTION - 4 CD'S - $55. PC KARAOKE W/MICROPHONE - $89.
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 TECH 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3552
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 12:57a
Subj: PANASONIC CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
)))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
Multi-Spin / SB Compatiable / with Interface
Complete Ready To Run - Price - $249.00
FREE C.C.I T-Shirt With Order
500+ CDROM Tiltes To Select From
ORDER'S ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517
TECH/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3553
To: DALE A COOK Date: 09/22/93 1:57a
Subj: Re: SOUNDBLASTER CD-ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Does anyone out there have a soundblaster compatible cd-rom
>> for sale?
Yep, the new Panasonic 562b internal for $249.00 !
Intertested, give us a call at 216-225-3263 and we'll be happy to
assist you further.
Boris Osadciw
... If you're not the lead dog, the view can be very interesting!
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From: DAVID ADKINS Number: 3554
To: DENIS COLEMAN Date: 09/17/93 9:00a
Subj: CD's in Australia Refer: NONE
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-> Hi,
->
-> If any Australian Residents would like a free Mail order catalogu
-> please write to me at
->
I did and got no response
regards
David
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3555
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/20/93 11:15a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
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GP>So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
Simple... Record companies sell a CD every time someone scratches their
favourite Barry Manilow disc. Record companies have a LOT of muscle with
media development, as CD's were jointly developed by Philips and Sony,
Sony being the owner of CBS I beleive.
Secondly, how many Audio CD's are worth hundreds of bucks. Who would use
a $1000 CDROM disk without the protection of a caddy?
Caddyless drives are fine for small time home users with an inexpensive
collection of ROMs. For a business or bigtime user, with a large
investment in expensive CDROMs caddies are essential.
The Creative kits are targetted at home/game users, look at the CDrom
drives installed in Libraries, Corporations etc. They don't have the 7th
Guest in them, they have expensive database disks, so they use caddy
drives.
Now can we all stop this quasi-religious caddy debate?
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From: TONY STOTT Number: 3556
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/21/93 7:58a
Subj: Caddy Bullsh*t Refer: NONE
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On 09-17-93, Leslie Rhorer elucidated to Brice Fleckenstein:
LR> BF> >It is utter foolishness to do otherwise. The
LR> BF> extra $$$ are trivial
LR> The extra $$$ adds up in a HURRY, and the cost of the ROMs
LR> themselves are getting to the point that the damn caddies add
LR> 50% to the cost
Here's an idea, let's discuss Arabs vs. Jews, or Clinton vs. Bush,
or Windows vs. OS/2 or ANYTHING else which involves less emotion
than the hugely important issue of whether caddies are good or not...
Please, WHO CARES?!!
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From: SHAWN FULLER Number: 3557
To: RUSSELL HARDIE Date: 09/20/93 6:42a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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RH> Hi Shawn,
RH>
RH> I have one of these Pioneer DRM604X's.. And they're GREAT!
RH>
RH> But, no, multisession does not mean that. It's a term associated
RH> with Kodak Photo CD, which essentially means you can add photos to
RH> your photo CDs, and the drive can still read the subsequent
RH> "sessions".
RH>
RH> It is still a 6-disc "changer" meaning it swaps the discs over when
RH> it is accessed. It takes about 5 seconds max to do this, I think it
RH> is. Usually much quicker, though.
What type of machine are you running it on?? I would presume it is an IBM.
Cheers ... Shawn
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 3558
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/19/93 9:22p
Subj: cd-roms Refer: NONE
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-> AUS $20, NZ $30 etc), I'd appreciate your views. If we can get a
-> group underway, perhaps it would put us in a good bargaining position
-> with CD-ROM suppliers - thus lowering the price for everyone. EMAIL
-> me with your ideas!!!!
Hi David. I'm quite keen on the idea. I use CD-ROMs quite a lot, am
from Wellington and also am a CD-ROM distributor in New Zealand so am
quite keen on such a scheme.
We would be happy to come to an arrangement to provide discounts to club
members.
You can e-mail me at 3:771/350 to discuss this further.
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 3559
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 9:25p
Subj: CD-ROMS Available from Ne Refer: NONE
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@SUBJECT:CD-ROMS Available from New Zealand N
Hi,
If any New Zealand and Australian Residents would like a free Mail order
catalogue of our extensive range of CD-ROM titles please contact me at any of
the following addresses:
PC Junction (NZ)
P.O Box 5197
Wellington
New Zealand
E-mail: 3:771/350 or UseNet at david.benfell@stargate.actrix.gen.nz
Phone: Voice +64 4 566-3601 and Fax + 64 4 471-1941
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3560
To: CHRIS MOORE Date: 09/21/93 7:53p
Subj: Cd Benchmarking Software Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
On 09-17-93 Chris Moore wrote to Rowan Evans...
CM> I replied to your message way back in July about the CD-ROM
CM> benchmarking software, but recently found that some of my
CM> echomail has been going into a black hole somewhere.
We had the opposite problem.... some old message packets found their way
back into FICDROM in late August... I had a couple of guys ask why I
re-sent msgs!
CM> RE> CM> I have one on my BBS called CDSPEED.ZIP (about 77K). Feel
CM> RE> CM> free to FREQ it. I don't know how good it is, but it takes
CM> RE> CM> a long time to run and spews out lots of numbers.
CM>
CM> If you want to send me a snail mail address, I'll put a diskette in
CM> the mail. If I may, I'll also send you information about our health
CM> & safety CD-ROMs. (I work for the Canadian Centre for Occupational
CM> Health and Safety). I'd appreciate it if you post the files on your
CM> local BBS (I take it from the name "Medical MAX", that this is a
CM> medically-oriented BBS(?)) and pass the information on to whomever you
CM> think would find it useful.
AlphaMed is a medically oriented BBS.... David's just nice enough to let
others use it too!
Snail Mail address is coming via netmail.... I'll advise David More (SYSOP)
that I'll have some info on Health & Safety CD-ROMs for him shortly? <g>
Are they available to be set up on the BBS for browsing, etc?? He'll
probably ask!
Cheers & Beers!
o
/U\
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3561
To: MALCOLM WRIGHT Date: 09/21/93 8:23p
Subj: CR562B CD-ROM Drive...? Refer: NONE
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Hi Mal!
On 09-14-93 Malcolm Wright wrote to All...
MW> Can anyone here tell me where I can get a Panasonic Cr-562-b Cd-Rom
MW> drive here in Western Australia?
Try your local Osborne Computers (Australia) dealer! They resell the
CR562B and paddle card as their CD-200 kit.
MW> What is the approximate cost I am looking at?
I'd say around $A450.00.... I haven't been able to get their current
price for this kit out of the local salesmen yet!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3562
To: RICK POTTS Date: 09/21/93 8:34p
Subj: Thunder board and toshib Refer: NONE
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Hi Rick!
On 09-18-93 Rick Potts wrote to All...
RP> I've seen various messages here talking about ways to run sound from
RP> CD-ROM's to various sound baords, but I haven't seen anyone talk
RP> specifically about using a Thunder Board with a CD-ROM. I'd like to
RP> buy a CD-ROM (and I'm leaning strongly toward the Toshiba 3401b), but
RP> I really don't want to buy another sound board if I can make it work
RP> with my existing Thunder Board. Can it be done? Or do I have to pull
RP> the Thunder Board and put in something else (like the PAS 16) to make
RP> it work?
What people are normally talking about is connecting the "audio out"
connector at back of the CD-ROM drive to a three or four pin connector
on the sound card marked "CD In". This connection allows you to hear
music CDs without either plugging an extra set of speakers into the
headphone jack of the CD-ROM drive, or, should their sound card have
an on-board mixer, plugging a cable from the headphone socket of the
CD-ROM drive to the line-in of the sound card.
If the ThunderBoard supports either of these options, you've got no
hassles... Otherwise, dump the ThunderBoard for a sound card with
built-in CD-ROM interface (SB Pro/16/16 ASP - PAS 16 - SG NX Pro)....
Hope this helps!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3563
To: KURT LARSEN Date: 09/21/93 8:42p
Subj: Cd-Rom Refer: NONE
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Hi Kurt!
On 09-18-93 Kurt Larsen wrote to All...
KL> I have a SoundBlaster 16 ASP card and I have been told that
KL> the only CD-Rom drive compatable with it is a Panasonic
KL> drive. Do you know if this is true?--or could you tell me
KL> how I might find some info on this subject.
There is a version of the SB Pro that reportedly has a SONY CDU-31A
interface, but all SoundBlasters I have seen use the Panasonic interface!
The SB 16 ASP is compatible with either the Panasonic CR52x series
(150Kbps) or CR56x series (300Kbps) CD-ROM drives.
Your best bet is to look for a Panasonic CR562B CD-ROM drive... Any of
the dealers in this echo will sell you one!
Cheers!
o
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From: ROWAN EVANS Number: 3564
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/21/93 8:47p
Subj: Good deal? Refer: NONE
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Hi Christian!
On 09-19-93 Christian Buhl wrote to All...
CB> I can get a new CD-ROM (internal, 150KBS, 390ms) with three programs
CB> (An Encyclopedia, An Atlas, and 1000 sound effects) and a sound card
CB> (Adlib/SB/Windows compatible) for 249.90 plus S&H (15.00) Is this a
CB> good deal? I already have a sound blaster (pro) but have found someone
CB> who will buy it for $80.
CB>
CB> Or I could get a Mitsumi 300ms drive (I dont know the KBS, probably
CB> 300) for $210 (internal)
You haven't specified any model numbers, but the latest Mitsumi I've
heard of is the LU005, which is only 150Kbps....
Can you stretch to $US249.00 for the Panasonic CR562B?? I think that's
what Boris Osadiciw advertised it for the other day...... It'll connect
straight into your SB Pro, no need to muck around pulling cables apart
to get the CD Audio sound to work properly!
Cheers!
o
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From: QUINN LARKIN Number: 3565
To: DAVID POMEROY Date: 09/20/93 12:03p
Subj: Re: cd-roms Refer: NONE
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>Hi! Is anyone there interested in joining a New Zealand or possibly
>Australasian CD-ROM users group..... I'm very tempted to set one up, as it
>is badly needed for us down under users. If you think if would be a good
>idea, and you'd be interested in joining at a later stage, leave me a
>message.
Count me in - Sounds like a *very* good idea... If ya need any help setting it
up just give me a yell :)
-Quinn Larkin-
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From: DAVID POMEROY Number: 3566
To: DAVID BENFELL Date: 09/21/93 6:36a
Subj: CD-ROM GROUP Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi David! Thanks for your reply... At this point in time I'm simply printing
all of the messages I'm receiving and storing them in a file for later use
(although I am emailing people to let them know that I've read their messages
first!). However, I'm very interested in your comments re being a CD-ROM
distributor. What titles do you currently distribute? And what sort of
discount level would you consider appropriate to club members (all I need is a
ballpark figure at the moment...)?
Look forward to hearing from you!
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From: DAVID BENFELL Number: 3567
To: EDWARD BLACK Date: 09/20/93 11:04p
Subj: CD PRE-ORDERS Refer: NONE
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-> Being a novice to this bbsing, and living in New Zealand I wondered
-> if your services reach as far as we are south. If so, I would
-> appreciate any information you can give me on purchasing some of your
-> products. Regards
Hi Edward. I will send you out a CD-ROM price list as I can now supply
CD's just as cheap in most cases as importing them yourselves. My
prices have dropped about 20-30% since the last list I gave you.
Cheers
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 3568
To: SHAWN FULLER Date: 09/21/93 8:41a
Subj: Re: Cdrom Systems Refer: NONE
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SF> What type of machine are you running it on?? I would presume it is an
SF> IBM.
Yes, it is a SCSI-2 unit, so you just connect it to an external SCSI adaptor.
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From: RUSSELL HARDIE Number: 3569
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 9:29p
Subj: CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer Refer: NONE
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I recently saw someone post a message which was a duplicate files table between
many popular CD-ROMs.
It used a program referred to as "Bob Neal's CD-ROM Duplicate Analyzer v1.0"
Does anyone know the filename of that program? I would love to get hold of it.
Even better, do you know if it is on any of the following discs:
Monster Disc II, Night Owl 7, Night Owl 9, Software Vault 2, Software Vault
Gold, Cream of the Crop, Shareware Studio Volume II, Dr.Shareware, So Much
Shareware 2, So Much Shareware 3, Pier 1, Pier 2.
If it is on one of the above disks, please let me know which one, and the file
name. I've done a text search on all of them, but I can't seem to find it
anywhere.
Thanks for your help!!!
P.S. In case you can't follow this, I'm after a program that will tell me the
% of duplicate files between all of my shareware CD-ROMs.
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From: ALAN WHITEMORE Number: 3570
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 10:46a
Subj: Government Laws on CD Refer: NONE
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Hello Rowan!
15 Sep 93 20:28, Rowan Evans wrote to Simon Mackay:
SM>> Do you know of any legislatures who are planning on starting schemes
SM>> where they put any Acts (laws that have been passed and are in force),
SM>> Codes and Regulations on CD-ROM discs, making these laws available for
SM>> public browsing at their public libraries, or for sale / hire to
SM>> interested citizens e.g. lawyers and students.
RE> Barrister mate (well I kenw him when he was a uni student - how was I to
RE> know what he'd turn into! <g>) has been earbashing me about a couple of
RE> CD-ROMs he's seen with case law on them (Family Law, etc).... Don't
RE> know if this is the sort of thing you're looking for....
RE> BTW, the cost of these CD-ROMs was extortionate.... $A4,000.00 or so....
It would only work out to 4k if more than one title was ordered. Case law
for your state covering 1971-1992 can be purchased for 750-1100 dollars.
"Unreported judgments" costs $2400, which is not unreasonable when you
consider that it covers all states and is updated quarterly.
Of course if you wanted to go the whole hog and order all state's case
law, unreported judgments and the states legislation series, it may end
up costing over 14K. I imagine only the Attorney Generals department
would have the budget and need for that amount of law information though,
Regards, Alan
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From: STEPHEN RANSON Number: 3571
To: TOM BULUM Date: 09/21/93 7:00a
Subj: Aus. 562B Distributor? Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Poe Lim on 09-15-93, TOM BULUM said>>
TB> ^^^^^
TB>Hiya Poe,
TB> whereabouts can I get this for this price? Eagerly awaiting
reply.
TB>
Tom, the Australian CD-ROM Club here in Canberra has the CR562B, and
just for you we will sell it at $450. Call us on 2915258 anytime.
Stephen Ranson
Australian CD-ROM Club
Voice (008)811190, Fax (06)2914591
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From: LAURIE BATT Number: 3572
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/20/93 11:22a
Subj: CD-ROM questions Refer: NONE
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G'day Rowan, In a message on <Sep 18>, you said :
RE>
RE> Sunny Sydney....... I take it from your lagline that
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
RE> you're in California?
RE>
Sunny ?? You gotta be Joking, right ?? <G>
Laurie
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3573
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/20/93 5:39p
Subj: Pro Audio Studio 16XL Refer: NONE
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HP>-> Don't forget the Diamond Sonic Card, which includes wave table syn
HP>-> the same price as an SB PRO 16 ASP! (I have the SBPRO16ASP, and w
HP>-> held off a few weeks until the Diamond came out...)
HP>Who makes the Diamond Sonic card?
My guess would be Diamond.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3574
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/20/93 5:43p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS> | Title: FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
MS>
MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers
MS> * 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats
MS> * Custom-designed Super-VGA interface
MS> * Covers every firearm from black powder rifles, to Class 3 weap
As we Aussies say... Only in America.
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3575
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/20/93 9:36p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
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BF>>Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are UN
BF>>damage a CD disk.
BF>
BF>I'm a good example - 10+ years using CDs, and I've NEVER damaged one
BF>exception that I took a hammer to!).
BF>
BF>>CDs are on the other hand durable enough that some music
BF>>stores purchase and sell used ones.
Point #439, I have a Nautilus CD with DATA and Audio tracks on it,
which was damaged in the mail, it has fine scratches randomly across
the entire disk surface. The Audio track sounds (apparently) fine,
whilst the data track will not be logged by DOS, ie drive is not
recognised.
POINT, a few missing "bits" on a CD audio track will make no difference
since you can't hear each individual sample, because there are 44100
samples every second.
On a data track however, a single missing or unreadable bit/byte could
be crucial to the execution of a program, or could render the disk
unloggable by DOS.
You have to take a lot more caution with CDroms, than your Barry Manilow
disks. On another point, I saw a Medical CDrom advertised the other day
worth $1500AUS, how many Audio cd's are that valuable? And if they are
they are collectors items and belong in a frame on your wall :-)
I use a media/research program called Proquest at a campus Library, it
is a collection of print media articles. It is a CDrom system, with one
Master disk, containing the ASCII text of all articles, and about 40
other disks containing actual scans of the articles, including pictures.
When you find the relevant article, if you want the full scanned
article, the program tells you to load disk number 23 or whatever. You
then open the drawer, and there are 40 disks in labelled caddies, so you
just grab the caddy and slam it into the drive. There is no way known
that the Library is going to use a caddyless system with grubby
students, holding a bag of cheese doritos in one hand and a can of Pepsi
in the other, and a runny nose in between, handling the actual disks :-)
Also on these machines, the CDrom drives are installed vertically, a bit
of a problem for tray loaders.
Both systems have their merits, with tray loading better for home audio
enthusiasts, and non mission-critical home pc users, and caddy loading
better for more intensive, or high swap rate applications, particularly
when disk protection is at a premium. (After all, 3.5" floppies are more
durable than 5.25", because they are effectively in a caddy).
Cheers.
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 3576
To: AL KOLLER Date: 09/21/93 10:08p
Subj: Pioneer DRM 600 problem Refer: NONE
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AK>Hello. Need a little tech help with a new DRM 600. It will not look at
AK>my Future Domain TMC 845 controller and I have no idea why. I have
AK>tried shifting the memory location but to no avail. Anyone with
AK>suggestions about what to try/how to best troubleshoot? I thought this
AK>would be "plug and play" but so far, nothing doing! Thanks.
As it says in the manual it may be conflicting with your 1 meg VGA Card. Try
setting the VGA card to 8 bit and see if this helps. If you have Manifest, run
it and set the excludes shown. If that doesn't work and you run Qemm, try the
ROM option. If that doesn't work, change the SCSI ID on the back of the Drive
and make sure you chose the correct driver. I use an Adaptec 1542C and it was a
simple plug and play situation and that was with several other SCSI devices.
Also, make sure that you have the Cards scsi termination set to allow for
external devices and either enable the termination on the DRM or disable it and
plug in an external SCSI terminator. My advice would be to go and get the 1542C
Adaptec controller to make the most of the Drive.
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║Regards -= Dino =-║
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From: DEAN MACKIN Number: 3577
To: MARK CROSBIE Date: 09/21/93 10:17p
Subj: Pioneer 6 pack Refer: NONE
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MC>What I am looking for is pricing and a supplier, and problems that I
MC>could have I run 2 nodes on a 486/25 with DESQview.
I run 8 nodes under it and get MASSIVE LOCKUPS for about 2 seconds every time
a disk change takes place and thats's with a 604x. I am not sure how much
slower a 600 would be. There are no lockups when the drm is READING the files,
only when it CHANGES CD's. But I think this is more of a DOS limitation than
one set by the actual
hardware. I have set up a large cd rom cache (to hd) but this doesn't stop the
problem, it just makes it less frequent.
Can anybody tell me, would their be lockups on a SLAVE computer (running DV)
on a network when the SERVER accesses a drm connect to itself? I have not tried
this and would like some feedback. I am not real sure if DV will run on a
network anyway. Anyway help greatly appreciated.
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║Regards -= Dino =-║
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From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 3578
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/21/93 6:15p
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Gordon!
12 Sep 93, Gordon Peterson writes to Roger Smith:
RS>> Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect a
RS>> CDROM that can cost much more.
GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
1) Bad original design spec.
2) CD libraries much more extensive, and audio cd prices are MUCH cheaper than
data CD's over the long haul.
It's hard to justify protect my $5.96 Barry Manilow's greatest hits, but not
hard at all on my Delorme Mapping, or Groliers, Dino Adventure, 7th Guest.. ad
nauseum.. I have about 35 CDROMs here all in their own caddies. I also have
caddyless on my bbs, and the dust problem is extensive on them, never a problem
with the ones in the caddies.
Rick
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From: DON SHORTRIDGE Number: 3579
To: SYSOP Date: 09/19/93 8:13p
Subj: BBS Listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Whould please add a new BBS to your list? Name: SECURE BACKUPS Phone Number:
(904)455-2181 SYSOP: Guy Winfrey Runs At: 14400 Location: Pensacola, FL
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3580
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/18/93 9:17a
Subj: Caddy-O-Rama Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RS>> Caddies are only about $5 each. Surely, that's not much to protect
RS>> a CDROM that can cost much more.
GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
Because the average cost of an audio CD is much less than the average cost of a
CDROM.
-- Roger
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3581
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/18/93 9:18a
Subj: CD CADDIES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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EF>> I have EIGHT CD-CADDIES for sale.
EF>> $25.00 - shipping INCLUDED in USA (went "caddy-less")
GP> Congratulations, Ed! Always glad to see another joining the club!
GP> :-)))
I didn't realize that I had gotten into a religious debate ....
-- Roger
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From: JERRY JOSEPH Number: 3582
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/20/93 5:07p
Subj: BBS Listing Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I'll advertise yours if you can do the same for me. Dragon's Lair has a max
baud rate of 14400, and is based in Shalimar, Fl. Phone number is
(904)651-1109. Thanks!
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From: DON SHORTRIDGE Number: 3583
To: SYSOP Date: 09/21/93 9:13a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
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I will be more than happy to advertise your BBS on Secure Bacckups BBS. I will
even advertise it on a couple of BBS's that I regulary get on in the San Diego,
CA area.
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From: JON BORTHWICK Number: 3584
To: JERRY JOSEPH Date: 09/20/93 6:25p
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
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i would like to know where you got your shareware cd and how much it costs
please respond asap
jon borthwick "filago" "borthy"
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From: JERRY JOSEPH Number: 3585
To: JON BORTHWICK Date: 09/21/93 5:57a
Subj: Shareware cd Refer: NONE
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A place called Free Spirit Software for $25. Page 786 of this month's
(October's) Computer Shopper. Phone 1-800-638-5757.
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From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 3586
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/21/93 12:21a
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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David Wills wrote in a message to Scott Davis:
DW> Hmph, it's pretty obvious isn't it? Religious activists
DW> and moral do-gooders have once again used their collective
DW> might to knuckle under another "public forum". Or should I
DW> say, "censored public forum" now?
Perhaps they are equally as nauseated by your "taste" as you are
nauseated by theirs? Should they be free from "censorship" to
subject you to (or should I say "cram") their ideas in front of
your face every way you turn? Since 1963 you have been successful
in "censoring" their freedom in schools and other places. Some
people enjoy their relationship with God. Why don't you leave
them alone? I seriously doubt if any of them care if you look at
porn and play with yourself. After all... you really aren't
having difficulty finding any are you? If you have been following
this conference you would have seen a bunch of messages telling
you were you could find it.
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From: SAM BECKWITH Number: 3587
To: MARCILIO BARBOSA Date: 09/21/93 12:50p
Subj: Cd-roms For Sale Refer: NONE
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MB>I'm interested in these CD-ROM above. Would charge my VISA card? I live
MB>in Brazil.
MB>Thanks,
MB> Marcilio Barbosa
Marcilio,
I am sorry, at this time we are not setup to ship outside the U.S.
Thanks for your interest.
Sam
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 3588
To: CHRIS CONKLIN Date: 09/17/93 2:29p
Subj: MACINTOSH TITLES Refer: NONE
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Hi Chris!
I'am always interested in (shareware) CDroms... Please send me information or
catalog:
Joop Stokvis
c/o BBS Waterland
PObox 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Thanks in advance!
Joop
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From: NADEEM FAIZI Number: 3589
To: ALL Date: 09/16/93 8:15p
Subj: CD Software !! Refer: NONE
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I have the following CD titles for the PC for sale:-
1. Toolworks Reference Library
2. World Atlas v2.0
3. Anecdote Volume I
4. Wing Commander/Ultima VI
5. Clipart Goliath
If you need some further info or need to contact me then ring:-
081-560-2480 (evenings 6pm - 10pm)
Sensible offers please...... Thanks.........
/\/ads
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From: STEPHAN FORSEILLES Number: 3590
To: KEN CHAN Date: 09/16/93 7:46p
Subj: mail order Refer: NONE
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> Have anyone tried mail ordering cd-rom disks?
> What is the procedure and most of all, can you trust
> them?
I mail ordered to MISSION CONTROL and e-mail ordered to WALNUT CREEK (both
in USA, ads seen in COMPUTER SHOPPER) and everithing came without any problem.
Stephan.
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 3591
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/19/93 11:04a
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> Que te parece el The 7th Guest
> Dejame un mail por aqui y dime de donde hablas...
> * Origin: Creaturas de la Noche *IDS* [Monterrey
> México] (4:971/1)
Hola Roberto.
Te vas a quedar un poco frio, pero te llamo desde España, al otro lado del
charco. Mi direccion de nodo es 2:341/12.5 de la BBS CORBEN en Madrid.
Contestando a si estoy interesado en el "The 7th Guest", claro que si, lo que
pasa es que no se como vamos a hacer las cosas.
Por cierto, hace poco que me case, y estuve en Mexico, tipico sitio CANCUN, no
estubo mal, pero dime tu opinion ¿No es todo lo que se ve un poco distinto de
la realidad?.
Tambien fui a COZUMEL, por cierto un lugar precioso, pero como no sabia nada de
Mexico, lo hice mal. Me pase mas tiempo en CANCUN que en COZUMEL. ¿Conoces
COZUMEL o a alguien de alli?.
Saludos.
Alex.
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From: ALEJANDRO RODRIGUEZ HEREDERO Number: 3592
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/19/93 11:17a
Subj: Compras. Refer: NONE
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> Hola Alex,
> Yo te puedo ofrecer CD's a buen precio y mandartelos
> al D.F, o donde
> sea, si estas interesado, dejame tu direcion y yo te
> puedo mandar una
> lista de pecios.
Hola Adrian.
Mi direccion esta en Madrid (España (un poco lejos ¿No?)).
Mejor dejame una pequeña lista de precios de CD's, por el mail,aunque
si estas interesado en mandarla por correo, te dejo mi direccion:
Alejandro Rodriguez Heredero.
C/ Valdivieso Nº 7.
Piso 1º H.
Madrid 28023
España
Por cierto, ¿De donde llamas?.
Saludos.
Alex.
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From: JOOP STOKVIS Number: 3593
To: JIM LAMBERT Date: 09/18/93 2:54p
Subj: MAIL ORDER Refer: NONE
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Hi!
Please send information and caralog to:
Joop Stokvis
c/o BBS Waterland
PObos 1196
1440 BD Purmerend
The Netherlands
Groeten!
Joop
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From: JEFF HUBERT Number: 3594
To: JOSEPH THOMAS Date: 09/21/93 4:02p
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
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Your wrong, the 1.04 beta driver (german ) does work without setting
the date back on your computer! It just doesn't support mmpm/2 or
cd-audio.
Which is better the german os/2 driver or the MIT one?
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From: ED DUCHEK Number: 3595
To: WILLIAM SCHNEIDER, JR. Date: 09/20/93 7:24p
Subj: OS/2 CD's Refer: NONE
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William,
Answering a msg of <16 Sep 93>, from William Schneider, Jr. to All:
I have os/2 arcive cd rom, I didn't care for os/2, like windows better, so now
I have the CD Rom disk. Will trade for another title, clipart or adult
prefered, but games probably ok, or even cash.
Ed Duchek
(210)650-8069
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 3596
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/21/93 9:06a
Subj: Re: Os/2 Cd-Rom Support Refer: NONE
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LR> True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay
LR>away from non-SCSI devices". It is *VERY* expensive to
LR>dump what one already has and upgrade to SCSI. Buying SCSI
LR>initially is not as large a hit, especially when one does
LR>not have to buy an additional hard drive controller.
you don't have to "dump" what you already have to "upgrade" to SCSI - you could
add a quality SCSI card (many under or around $100) and a good SCSI CD-ROM
drive, and then add a hard drive, tape backup, scanner, etc. later, while the
SCSI co-exists with your existing stuff just fine. I have an IDE and two SCSI
hard drives on one machine, I didn't have to "dump" the IDE....
Eric
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From: ERIC ESKAM Number: 3597
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 9:08a
Subj: Panasonic Cr-523b Refer: NONE
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RE> OK, its in the mail on Monday 20/09/93.... Coming AIRMAIL....
Bless you. Any kind of shareware/game/sound/graphics etc. you were looking for
out of the States? Anything non-computer related (I live right next to Las
Vegas)?
Eric
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From: JOHN BENJAMIN Number: 3598
To: CATALINO ALVAREZ Date: 09/21/93 12:51p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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-> Cat here,
-> Love to get one of your catalogs!
->
-> C. Alvarez Jr
-> 348 Chutney Dr
-> Orlando, FL 32825-3612
->
-> Thanx and Read Ya Later,
-> CAT
Sorry but you must've mistaken me for someone else. My company does not
make CD-ROMS. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
John Benjamin - Benjamin Computer Services - 407-689-2326
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From: RHEZA JINA Number: 3599
To: ALL DEALERS Date: 09/16/93 5:56p
Subj: Dealer pricing Refer: NONE
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I intend to distribute CD-ROM disks in France (and maybe other European
countries) so I ask all vendors to send me their dealer pricing or
bulk quantities discount if available.
My address : Rheza JINA
58, Bd Voltaire
92600 ASNIERES
FRANCE
... Hope to hear from you soon.
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From: JEAN-HUGUES ROYER Number: 3600
To: ALL Date: 09/19/93 3:14a
Subj: Bible related cds Refer: NONE
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I'd like to know if someone knows a Bible related CD with a french
translation ?
thanks...
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3601
To: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Date: 09/18/93 11:35a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
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IA>> BJ>hold 18 CD's in 3 magazines. Supposed to be out in November with a
IA>> BJ>list about $3000.
IA>> That is an OUTRAGEOUS ripoff. It is basically just the same drive, but
IA>> with two more magazines added... it _can't_ cost them $10 more to build
IA>> it.
IA>Yes, you are exactly right. Infact I have the audio version on my stereo
IA>system.
Right! And how much does the audio version of the drive cost?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3602
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/18/93 11:37a
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
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TT>GP> So why don't audio CD owners love caddies too?
TT>Because it is almost impossible to stick a caddy to a caddyless player.
TT>;-) But seriously speaking it is too late to change anything. Philips
If it ain't broken, don't fix it. CDs work JUST FINE without caddies.
Just about the only place where I might agree that caddies are a good
idea and worth the hassle and expense is in a car.
TT>should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective covering (like
TT>caddy) instead of plain disk when designing the CD-standard.
Why, if that "protective covering" clearly isn't needed?
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3603
To: TAPANI TUOMINEN Date: 09/18/93 11:47a
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
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[CD-ROM of HP laserjet soft fonts]
TT>GP> Right, but an awful lot of them aren't very valuable here in Europe
TT>GP> because they don't support the European accented characters.
TT>What kind of fonts are you using then?
I rarely need accented characters because I generally only write in
English. :-)
TT>I just checked several of my
TT>fonts for curiosity and all of them worked perfectly well with European
TT>special characters and still they came with US-versions of software
TT>(Designer, Amipro etc.). However the situation might be different with
TT>some TT-fonts from USA, especially if they are either free or shareware as
TT>they are developed for local needs primarily. Those fonts that I have are
TT>almost exclusively Type-1 fonts from Adobe.
A lot of people will strip out the accented characters (if they ever had
them) to reduce the bulk of the fonts. Most Americans, after all, will
NEVER use those accented characters... and in (for example) the case of
HP laserjet soft fonts, you generally load the WHOLE font into the
printer's (limited) memory.
TT>GP> There is one of those on the Too Many Typefonts CD-ROM.
TT>I would like to see this font.
You're welcome to call me and drop by sometime, bring a formatted
diskette (or several) and I'll give you as much as you want. :-)
[true type line drawing fonts]
TT>Maybe I should explain that I need to have copies of DOS-screens (Full
TT>Screen mode under Windows copied to clipboard). Windows converts during
TT>this process OEM-char set to ANSI-set and when the original screen is
TT>reproduced to a Windows-document all the graphics chars. of IBM -char set
TT>are converted to something else.
ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compatible
character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I should have
guessed. :-(((
TT>GP> Right, but the cost of the caddy would then be MORE than the cost of
TT>GP> disc. And besides, you'd be forcing the more astute user who bought
TT>GP> caddyless drive to begin with to buy something that they have absolu
TT>GP> not the slightest use for.
TT>I know. It is just those damned caddyless drives causing this problem. ;-)
There are hundreds of caddyless CD drives in the world for each one that
needs a caddy. If we as a buying public will simply REFUSE to buy
caddy-based drives, we can eliminate this divisive and nonstandard cr*p
from the market. Just as we've gone a long way towards eliminating
copy-protection from mainstream software products.
TT>Whether you like it or not a huge number of players with caddies are
TT>around and there is no indication so far that they were disappearing.
They will become a smaller percentage of the market, if not eventually
disappear completely.
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3604
To: PHIL TREVORROW Date: 09/18/93 11:52a
Subj: Cdroms Refer: NONE
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PT>GP>There are no read-write CD-ROM systems available yet, to the best of my
PT>GP>knowledge. There are write-once CD-ROM systems, they cost $4-8K.
PT> There are several read/write CDROM systems out. The cheapest sells for und
PT>a grand and can hold 128 megs.
That's magneto-optical, it's NOT CD and is in NO sense compatible with
CDs.
PT>There is another that can hold 600 megs and
PT>another that can hold 1 gig.
Those are _also_ magneto-optical and in no sense compatible with CDs.
CDs use a single, spiral-track and constant linear velocity (they change
the disc speed according to the radial position being read). They are
addressed by minutes, seconds, and whatever, and are single-sided.
MagnetoOptical discs use concentric tracks and constant angular velocity
(like a regular hard disk does) and are addressed by cylinder and sector
number. MO discs are double-sided (but you generally have to
mechanically turn them over (and thus change the direction of
rotation) to get to the second side).
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From: GORDON PETERSON Number: 3605
To: RON FINDLING Date: 09/18/93 2:31p
Subj: CD-ROM vs. disk versions Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RF>However, it would be interesting if software manufacturers got together
RF>to make CD-ROM *drives* cheap enough so that "everyone" could afford one,
Now that they are under $200, that's ALREADY true.
RF>and then put out their software *only* on CD-ROMs! (Presumably the CD
RF>games would also be made so big that it wouldn't be practical to copy
RF>them to floppies)
You can copy them to one-off CD-ROMs for $35 media cost. But you're
mostly right, if the software cost only about that much, there would be
minimal piracy. :-)
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 3606
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/19/93 6:47p
Subj: Caddy-o-rama Refer: NONE
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A message from Gordon Peterson to Tapani Tuominen on 09-18-93:
GP> TT>should have implemented CD:s with some sort of protective coverin
GP> (like
GP> TT>caddy) instead of plain disk when designing the CD-standard.
GP>
GP> Why, if that "protective covering" clearly isn't needed?
For example to write-protect rewritable CD:s by braking a notch in the
caddy to prevent recording...
Tapani Tuominen
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From: TAPANI TUOMINEN Number: 3607
To: GORDON PETERSON Date: 09/19/93 6:47p
Subj: I want caddies Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
A message from Gordon Peterson to Tapani Tuominen on 09-18-93:
GP> TT>I just checked several of my fonts for curiosity and all of them
GP> worked perfectly well with European special characters and still they
GP> came with US-versions of software
GP> A lot of people will strip out the accented characters (if they ever
GP> them) to reduce the bulk of the fonts. Most Americans, after all, w
GP> NEVER use those accented characters... and in (for example) the case
GP> HP laserjet soft fonts, you generally load the WHOLE font into the
GP> printer's (limited) memory.
How do you strip out certain characters? Even Americans need foreign
characters (for them) once in a while for example when writing some names
of foreign origin.
GP> TT>I would like to see this font.
GP>
GP> You're welcome to call me and drop by sometime, bring a formatted
GP> diskette (or several) and I'll give you as much as you want. :-)
Thank's I'll do that.
GP> TT>this process OEM-char set to ANSI-set and when the original scree
GP> TT>reproduced to a Windows-document all the graphics chars. of IBM -
GP> TT>are converted to something else.
GP>
GP> ARGH! This awful, stupid cr*p of Windows and its non-compatible
GP> character set mapping junk again rears its ugly head. I should have
GP> guessed. :-(((
No, no you got me wrong! It was problem with DOS-characters, everything
works smooth and nicely otherwise under Windows. :-D
GP> There are hundreds of caddyless CD drives in the world for each one
GP> needs a caddy. If we as a buying public will simply REFUSE to buy
GP> caddy-based drives, we can eliminate this divisive and nonstandard c
GP> from the market. Just as we've gone a long way towards eliminating
GP> copy-protection from mainstream software products.
But unfortunately consumers are divided in this question very badly.;-)
Now what kind of campaign could we have against European software
prices...
GP> They will become a smaller percentage of the market, if not eventual
GP> disappear completely.
I saved your message. We can get back on the topic in the year 2000 and
check how much caddies are around.
Tapani Tuominen
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From: CHRIS WOOD Number: 3608
To: LEE WINSOR Date: 09/21/93 12:54p
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Lee Winsor wrote in a message to Chris Wood:
LW> 2) You may call our support BBS at (203) 738-0342 and
LW> download the file 'XPLR_FIX.ZIP' (size=9k) which contains
LW> corrected files.bbs entries.
Will be callin'. I hope that in the future, Explorer packs you will include
files.bbs that are more like 250 columns, rather than the current 400+. I had
to go find a utility to chop off all the files.bbs files at the 200 column
mark to allow for Maximus 2.01wb to display the file properly preventing a word
wrap which messes up the file listings to users.
LW> Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused, but it
LW> seems no matter how hard you try, 'Murphy' always gets the
LW> last laugh.... <g>.
Isn't that always the way it is. Thanks Lee, it's great to hear support
straight from the source.
Have a better one...
Chris - Team OS/2 - Internet: cwood@hpb.hwc.ca
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From: PAT RICKERSON Number: 3609
To: RICHARD VONZEL Date: 09/21/93 3:56p
Subj: CD-ROM DRIVES FOR SALE Refer: NONE
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Hello Richard!
20 Sep 93, Richard Vonzel writes to All:
RV> Hello All!
RV> I have 3 Mitsumi 8 bit internal drives for sale. All work great on my
RV> bbs. 150.00 + C.O.D. Contact me here or netmail me at 1:282/3022. I'm
RV> selling them because I'm shuting down my system.
The club in Corpus are interrested in these, do they come with only one
controller? Please call 512-939-9822 if you still have them.
Pat
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From: JOEL WHITE Number: 3610
To: ED YEE Date: 09/18/93 9:20a
Subj: Writable Cd-Rom'S Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Optical drives are considered to be re-writable cd's. There are
two manufacturers (Sony and some other Japanese company) making
optical drives that use what looks like a cd. They are re-writable
like a hard drive, but about the slowest seek time of anything
made.
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From: ROB LIBRIZZI Number: 3611
To: JERRY MILLIKIN Date: 09/18/93 11:20a
Subj: NEW CD TITLES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Jerry or Lisa
Please send Price List / Catalog to
Rob Librizzi
224 Pinedo Drive
Titusville, Fl 32780
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3612
To: CHRIS DUBOIS Date: 09/19/93 9:26p
Subj: Amiga CD32 Specs Refer: NONE
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Hello there!
The CD32 will be about $399 U.S. However, street prices should be lower.
I'm speculating $350 or so. It will be available in limited supply in the
U.S. till the CES in January. Right now they're concentrating more on the
UK/European market, because that's where most Amiga sales come from.
(20,000 units being manufactured a week, sounds like a success!)
Here's more technical specs for you:
- Snipped from Matt Guthrie's WOCA Report from Amiga Report #1.25
Since it's being billed as a games machine, it has to be competitive
with Sega. At it's intro price of #299UK, it's less than the Sega CD
unit, and approximately 15X more performant.
Here are some technical specs:
-- AGA chipset, Motorola 68EC020, 2MB RAM (Chip), 1MB ROM (ADOS 3.1).
-- Sony CD mechanism with C= microcode (2X multisession-capable)
(that means it can read PhotoCD's, but no Kodak license yet :( )
-- 1KB EEPROM for hiscore tables, bookmarks, etc.
-- 4 voice Amiga stereo, 16-bit CD stereo, stereo line out, headphone
jack w/volume control
-- RF out (built-in modulator), composite out, S-Video out (Lew said
that S-Video out gives dramatic video improvement)
-- with the AGA chipset, every pixel can be a different color at
standard TV resolutions. (I suppose that's not the case if you're
using S-Video.)
-- Aux. port with 2 serial ports, compatible with the Amiga keyboard.
Possible add-ons include infrared boxes, virtual reality periphs.
-- Expansion bus in back for 1 card. Contains full CPU bus, full
video bus, full audio bus. (The MPEG card needs all of those.)
-- 2 controller ports, with the capability to daisy-chain 8
controllers per port. That's right. You could have a 16-player
game. BTW, the unit comes with 1 controller. Additional ones
will be sold separately.
Let's talk software. The CD32 will play audio CD's, CD+G CD's, some
CDTV CD's, and Karaoke (aka VideoCD) CD's, in addition to CD32 titles.
One thing he mentioned is that a company is currently putting all of
the classic Star Trek titles on VideoCD for sale next year. (heh heh,
cool, heh heh.)
Regarding the CDTV titles, Lew stated that 130 titles were made for CDTV.
C= researched the 30 most popular titles, and bent over backward to
make sure that those 30 work on CD32. I requested a list from a C=
person; I'll post it when it gets here.
For a change, C= didn't have to pay developers to develop for CD32.
People were so excited about the new platform, they developed on their
own. Lew said that there *will* be 50 titles available by Christmas,
and the actual number will probably be closer to 75. One reason
C= is excited about their prospects for CD32 is production costs.
Cartridge cases cost about $10-$20 each, and since they're burned-in
PROMs, they require a 6-8 week lead time. CD's on the other hand,
cost about $1 each, and need no lead time -- mastering houses can
pump out 20,000 CD's every day. In the final analysis, producing
CD-games costs about 1/2 what producing cartridge games does.
------------------------------
Gary
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3613
To: CHRIS DUBOIS Date: 09/19/93 9:15p
Subj: Amiga CD32 Specs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
- Snipped from Dan Zerkle's WOCA Report from Amiga Report #1.25
Finally, Eggebrecht dropped a few jaws by stating that
Commodore's new factory in the Phillipines is manufacturing
20,000 CD32's per week!
Eggebrecht finished up and introduced John Campbell to give a
demo of CD32.
The demo was a fancy multi-media show put together to impress
developers into producing software for the game console. It had
dinosaurs, Porches, and jets zipping all over the place doing
their thing. The jet launched a missile which a voice-over said
was "blowing away" the competition. It was clearly poking fun at
the other machines. The speed was quite good. This complicated
demo loaded in a few seconds and continued with no glitches.
Campbell also had a CDXL preview of a Jurassic Park video game.
The film clips were pretty good, but the game demo looked
terrible, as though it was ripped off from a Nintendo console.
It probably was. I noticed that one part of the game looked a
lot like Wolfenstein 3D.
At this point, Campbell mentioned that CD32 was good for more
than video games. The audio-visual capabilities, massive CD-ROM
storage, and low price point makes it ideal for kiosk
applications.
Then, Campbell demonstrated the prototype MPEG module by playing
a Bon Jovi video from CD. I was, quite frankly, startled. The
picture quality was excellent--almost indistinguishable from
cable broadcast. It was clearly better than VHS video. The
sound was also excellent. It was very close to audio CD, and
(again) spectacularly better than VHS audio. A single CD can
hold up to 74 minutes of MPEG video, meaning that two of them can
hold a movie, for much less space and price than a VHS tape. The
CD32 can overlay graphics on top of the MPEG picture, so MPEG
video could be used in many applications other than simple
playback. As it was, the unit simply put a small logo in the
corner of the screen.
At this point, Eggebrecht and Dionne opened things up for
questions. Here are some of the interesting answers:
The CD32 hardware is perfectly capable of supporting Kodak's
Photo-CD. However, Phillips and Kodak are partners in a
competing product. Commodore has not been able to get a license
for the technology. Commodore expects to reach an agreement
soon.
The MPEG add-on module uses chips from C-cubed. The price is not
decided yet, but will be less than the Phillips module, which is
expected to be about $250.
The sound from the MPEG disks is standard compressed MPEG sound.
It is like the mini-CD standard.
The software bundle included with CD32 will depend on the
country. It is expected to change with different promotions and
seasons.
All of the software needed to run MPEG disks is included on the
MPEG hardware module. Nothing additional is required to play
MPEG disks.
The US packaging for CD32 will be in English, French, and
Spanish. Apparently, this has nothing at all to do with the
proposed North American Free Trade Agreement.
The motherboard is ready for the A4000T. It should be available
sometime near the end of the year. The MPEG module, on the other
hand, will be available in late November.
Advertising will be in the form of cable television spots and the
usual magazine ads, including video game magazines. Commodore is
thinking of running infomercials!
The regions in which the CD32 will receive its limited launch in
the US this year have not been decided.
The expansion connecter will be able to accept expanded RAM, all
of which will be FAST RAM.
-------
Gary
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From: ED BAILEY Number: 3614
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 4:02p
Subj: Mitsumi LU005S Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Does anyone know of a Driver for use with the Mitsumi, for use under
OS2 Ver 2.1.
There was a Sysop who claimed to have one and I did a File Request for
it. It came from Germany and was for OS 2 Ver 2.0 and clearly said it
wouldn't work with Ver 2.1, also it was a dated program, apparntly not
working after a given date, which had already passed.
I would appreciate the address of the commerical program out there and
if possible a free/shareware release of such a driver availability.
When possible I prefer to support the shareware authors.
Thanks for any assistance.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3615
To: PAUL KNOX Date: 09/21/93 9:00a
Subj: Re: Night Owl's Latest CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 19 Sep 93 20:23:00, I heard Paul Knox shout to All:
PK> I am looking for their latest version of shareware cd-rom. I am currentlyus
PK> version 7.0. I need to know where how and howmuch.
PK> Later
PK> Paul
N i g h t O w l 9 . 0
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*********** $ 25.00 a Copy !!! ***********
********* *********
*********** ***********
********* Ask for Barney *********
*********** ------------------ ***********
********* 1-800-638-5757 *********
*********** ***********
********* We Will NOT be out Sold *********
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From: KEVIN PLUMMER Number: 3616
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 10:19a
Subj: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
Wanting people to become Dealers, Or to distribute to Dealers
Call Mutli-Media and ask for:
Susan
Cheapest Prices around !!!!
Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
reached to 1:231/570
1-800-865-5354
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From: MIKE ESPOSITO Number: 3617
To: ALL Date: 09/20/93 2:46p
Subj: NEW BBS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
CALL THE COOL WORLD BBS. LOTS OF FILES GOOD MESSAGE BASES AND BLUE WAVE
MAIL DOOR. THE NUMBER IS 914-928-6090
SYSOP
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3618
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 12:12a
Subj: PANASONIC CD NO MORE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I was talking to a dealer today who told me he couldn't recommend the
Panasonic drives because of the remarkable price instability they'd
displayed in the past couple of weeks. Apparently the wholesale prices
have gone way down and he thought this "meant something."
Well, it seems he was right. I called Panasonic HQ today and, after a
merry round of phone hopping (it was like calling the Pentagon, if you've
ever done that), was told that PANASONIC NO LONGER MANUFACTURES CD-ROM
DRIVES!! I was stunned.
Has anyone else heard this?
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From: JASON SUTTLE Number: 3619
To: ASHWIN BIHARI Date: 09/22/93 9:24p
Subj: SB PRO OR SB 16 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* In a message originally to All, Ashwin Bihari said:
AB> output, I just wanna know which of these card would be a
AB> good choice and
AB> worth my money, since I wanna use the Soundcard for the
AB> CD-ROM games I
AB> have and Audio CD's. also what about PAS 16, please tell me
AB> about these
AB> card and good and bad<grin> things about these cards. TTYL.
I just purchased a PAS 16, and I LOVE IT! Especially because it's got a
built-in SCSI interface (just can't wait for my 2 Texel's to get here. :-))
Jason
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 3620
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/23/93 8:40p
Subj: RULES Refer: 5963
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
-> For the sake of some clarity, discuss it in CDROMsale. Tim basically
-> has no rules, and he says it is ok......
That's not true! I have the "use your brain" rule ;)
tim
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From: TIM HELTON Number: 3621
To: ANDREW SEE Date: 09/23/93 9:03p
Subj: NEW FIREARMS CD! Refer: 6054
Read: NO Private: No
-> MS> | Title: FIREARMS REFERENCE Price: $30 |
-> MS>
-> MS> * Features over 600 products from 70 different manufacturers
-> MS> * 256-color hi-rez images * BBS-Ready in several formats
-> MS> * Custom-designed Super-VGA interface
-> MS> * Covers every firearm from black powder rifles, to Class 3 w
->
-> As we Aussies say... Only in America.
There's a city about 20 miles north of Atlanta (Kennesaw, GA) where, by
law, you're REQUIRED to own a firearm. I love America!
tim
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From: DANIEL SIGMUND Number: 3622
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 9:50a
Subj: Catalogs WANTED! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I would like to receive catalogs from you dealers that frequent this net.
Please, only reputable dealers, I know the ones that aren't!
Send catalog to:
Daniel Sigmund
700 County Rd 219, #123
Box Elder, SD 57719
Thanks in advanced!
..Dan..
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3623
To: JEFF HUBERT Date: 09/23/93 7:59a
Subj: Os/2 mitsumi driver Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I am not using any beta. I am using one commercially available
and it works now. Tnx.
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From: JOSEPH THOMAS Number: 3624
To: DOUG SCHWANTES Date: 09/23/93 8:17a
Subj: Mitsumi/SB Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> I to have tried to connect the Mitsumi's 4 pin
DS> connector to the SoundBlaster's
DS> 4 pin and it didn't work. But if anyone knows a
DS> different way to do this please
It is said the wires should be reversed and it works.
--- Maximus 2.01wb
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From: POE LIM Number: 3625
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 11:08p
Subj: CR-563/SB 16ASP vs MM kits Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Sep 19 19:46 in a msg to Steve Mann, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> Poe Lim (who also lurks in FICDROM) has informed me that he has seen
You called; lurker humph!
> spex for caddy based versions of these drives, but I believe he
> mentioned Christmastime as the delivery date (at least it is for the
> CR503 SCSI-2 version)......
No, the caddy ones are the 533 (for the SCSI version, and have a 280ms (from an
untrustworthy memory) access time) and is available *now* at greater cost; the
503 is very similar to the 562/3, in that it is caddyless, and is still a
Christmas delivery in Aust according to the distributor.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: POE LIM Number: 3626
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 11:13p
Subj: Cr562b Cd-rom Drive Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello Rowan,
On Sep 20 18:52 in a msg to Poe Lim, Rowan Evans of 3:711/413 wrote:
> Please do! I'd be *MOST* interested in the results. Until then, I'll
> stand by my statements that SCSI CD-ROMs are slow compared to the
> CR-562B/CR563!
Must hunt around for a SB Pro or 16 first; I've never seen the need for the
extra expense, but now.... (also they are the only one with drivers under OS/2,
and I'm not sure the generic drivers will work well).
> Using the CR503 is a bit unfair to the other CD-ROM drives though -
> it has a 256Kb buffer according to the spex....
256K buffered SCSI CD-ROM drives (off the top of my head):
NEC 74-1/84-1
Panasonic 533
Sony CDU561
Toshiba 3401
> As you're already running a SCSI CD-ROM, why not look at the new,
> cheaper PAS 16 without the SCSI host adapter??
And how am I to test the 562B then? :)
I wonder how compatible is the PAS 16 with it's SB support, as the non-SCSI one
is priced about $100 less than the SB 16ASP.
Cheers,
Poe
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3627
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/21/93 2:03p
Subj: COVER CD 'PC MAG' Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
MS>BF>it's a royal PAIN to get a disc into a "Sony-style" caddy without
MS>BF>scratching it!
MS>
MS>Not if you have an opposable thumb. 8)
That's a beauty Mike!
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From: ANDREW SEE Number: 3628
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/21/93 2:07p
Subj: Your Tagline Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BJ> -=> Quoting Brice Fleckenstein to Edward Tushar <=-
BJ> BF> * SLMR 2.1a * I love my country. I FEAR my government....
BJ> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BJ>Me, Too. But I'm workin' on it! Shouldn't (no, DOESN'T) have to be th
You're not related to Lee Harvey Oswald by any chance?
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 3629
To: ROBERT MCGEHEE Date: 09/22/93 10:43p
Subj: READ ME Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Call Texel at 1-800-886-3935 to get sales information. The stats are as
follows:
DM-3024 Internal (Mine) and DM 5024 External
265 MS Average access speed,
300 KB / Sec Transfer Rate
64 KB Buffer
SCSI-2 Compliant
Switch Selectable SCSI ID and Terminator
It is a caddy based system. The Sony caddys can be bought for $4.00 to 4.50
each.
If you have other questions, feel free to call me at 413-525-0911 evenings
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From: NEIL RIPSTON Number: 3630
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 6:26a
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> For *ADULT* TITLES CALL or REQUEST CATALOG
Please send a catalog of ALL your titles and prices to:
Neil Ripston
10 Windham Drive
E. Longmeadow, MA 01028
... "What?!? This isn't the Files section?!?"
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3631
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 11:39p
Subj: SPECIAL Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
C D R O M B L O W O U T S P E C I A L S
1993 Guiness World Book - $29. Mario Is Missing - $20.
Mayo Clinic - $20. San Diego Zoo The Animals! - $20.
MicroSoft Works/BookShelf - $80. Sports Best - $15.
Shareware Online #2 - $35. Shareware Studio #3 - $19.
Software Vault Gold - $25. Night Owl Graphics - $25.
FREE C.C.I T-SHIRT with $100. order or more !!!
SPECIAL BUNDLE - Mario Is Missing, Mavis Beacons Teaches Typing,
Chessmaster 3000 & US/World Atlas - Price - $50.
ORDERS ONLY US/CAN 800-243-0517 Tec/Ques 216-225-3263 Fax 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3632
To: BARRY SHIPLEY Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: Re: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Boris:
>> I've seen many posts on the board from you. Can you answer a
>> couple of technical questions:
>> 1. Is there a quad-speed system coming out in the next few
>> months?
The Pioneer 604X is a quad-spin system already. That's why you have a
600kps transfer rate.
>> 2. Does the Pioneer 604X plan to upgrade?
Upgrade to what ??? It's already a much faster unit than the older
DMR 600, which is a 600ms drive with 150kps transfer rate.
>> 3. Is the Pioneer kodak CD compatible?
The DMR604X is, but not the DMR600.
>> 4. Will the Pioneer work with a PAS-16?
Sure will and we have the upgrade kit to do it for both systems.
>> 5. Are there any other multi-drive systems on the market?
Yes, but I think the price is a little out of the range you'd be interested.
We also carry the NMS units that is a 100 disk changer and it's priced at
$6500. complete. As I said, this is probably a little more than you'd be
willing to spend.
>> 6. Can you send a catalog?
Sure do!! We''ll place you on the bottom of the list and as soon as all of
our current customers get thier copies, we'll start shipping to all those
who have requested one and the list is vvvvvvvvvvvveeeeeeeeeeeerrrryyyyyy
long.
>> More than a couple of questions, but thanks in advance for the
>> help.
Not a problem, hope we were able to shed some light on the matter. If there
is anything else you need help with, please feel free to give us a call
at 216-225-3263 anytime 7 days a week and we'll be happy to assist you
further.
Boris Osadciw
... Press F1 to Reboot
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3633
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: Re: Panasonic Cdrom Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Hi Boris!
>>
>> On 09-18-93 Boris Osadciw wrote to All...
>>
BO>> )))))))))))))))))) P A N A S O N I C 5 6 2 ((((((((((((((((((((
BO>> The ALL NEW Panosonic 562 is here and ready for delievery!!
BO>> 340ms access time / 300kps transfer rate
>> ^^^
>> Why then does my manual for the above-mentioned CD-ROM drive
>> say 320ms in double speed mode?? <g>
Well, lets see.....I have two manuals here in front of me....one say's
340ms average access time, while the other say's 320ms average access time.
Both manuals seem to have the same publishing date and both unit's, I pulled
the manuals out of were dated 1993. Best quess would be to split the
diffrence and say thier 330ms average access time.....grin -:)
Have no idea as to why one say's one thing and the other states something
else, I didn't print the books.....grin -:)
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3634
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: Re: CD carousels Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> Folks,
>> I'm looking for a multiple carousel CD for my BBS that
>> will hold a minimum of 3 to 5 CD's. Need price, make,
>> model & availability via mail.
>> John Benjamin
The Pioneer DMR600 or DMR604X will work very nicely for you. We currently
have both units in stock and thier priced at $799 and $1199. respectively.
If you need further assistance, please feel free to call us at 216-225-3263
anytime 7 days a week and we'll be glad to assist you further.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3635
To: DONALD NELSON Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: Re: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
>> does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model
>> CRMC to a sound blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd
>> interface not the audio. --- FreeMail 1.09
Sorry, but the only thing you can interface would be th audio portion
and not the cd-rom support.
Hope this helps...
Boris Osadciw
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From: BORIS OSADCIW Number: 3636
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 1:22a
Subj: DUNE IS HERE !! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
D U N E - T H E G A M E O N C D
by Virgin Games
Play the game with actual footage from the David Lynch cult film,
based on the best-selling Frank Herbert epic. Fly ornithoptors,
conquer the Harkonnen bases, manage spice production and overtake
armies of Fremen troopers. Accurately synchronized speech of live
actors with subtitles available in seven languages.
Price - $59.00
ORDER LINE US/CAN 800-243-0517 TEC/QUES 216-225-3263 FAX 216-225-6759
Boris Osadciw
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3637
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 3:23p
Subj: CD-ROM SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SO MUCH SHAREWARE 3 - Certified user friendly, no knowledge of ZIP
required. Contains 650 megabytes of the most exciting shareware
programs available anywhere at ANY PRICE. Fantastic VGA arcade
games, home & hobby, graphics, clip art, sound files, financial programs,
OS/2, Windows applications, fonts & more. Really something for
everyone BBS Ready! Price 35.00 PC
Shipping is 5.00 up to 3 cds .50 each addition CA add 7.75% SEND
check/money order in US funds payable to ADRIAN SALAS to: SAN DIEGO ROM
CONNECTION 2434 EAST 32ND STREET, NATIONAL CITY CA 91950-7710 USA
QUESTIONS/ORDERS 619-479-8688 10:AM to 7:PM PST.
■ QMPro 1.51 ■ ROM CONNECTION BBS CD-SALES 619-479-8688 10pm-7am PST
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3638
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 7:45p
Subj: CDROM SYSTEMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO=>**************** C D - R O M D R I V E P R I C E S ****************
BO=>Pioneer DMR600 Bare - $799.00 Pioneer DMR604X Bare - $1199. -SCSI
What does bare mean?
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From: ADRIAN SALAS Number: 3639
To: KEVIN PLUMMER Date: 09/22/93 7:56p
Subj: Dealers Wanted! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
KP=>==========>>>>>> W A N T E D D E A L E R S <<<<<<===========
KP=> Or send Name, A fax Number, Or phone Number to where you can be
KP=> reached to 1:231/570
If possible, mail info to
San Diego Rom Connection
2434 East 32nd Street,
National City, CA 91950
o
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From: MARCIAL MORENO Number: 3640
To: BOB JACKSON Date: 09/18/93 10:08a
Subj: Re: cd-rom wholesalers. Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> I was just trying to be informative. BTW: Tenure has nothiung to do
-> woth the law. If you registered your name as a alias first
-> then fine. But just because you've been using it longer is no
-> defense. Again, just trying to help. <EOT>
-> Via SPITFIRE Bulletin Board System - Version 3.2
No Hard feeling, I was just saying that I had been using the name for my
business long before and it has been registered in the state of california
since. I guess what I was tring to say that it doesn't matter to me if
someone else is using the same business in another state. As long as the other
business is not claiming that its afiliated with mine or vise versa. Anyway
thanks for the infomation and no hard feelings :).
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* Origin: The Mega-ROM BBS of Whittier, CA (310) 944-2327 (1:103/304)
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From: MARCIAL MORENO Number: 3641
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 7:34p
Subj: Cd-rom wholesalers and pu Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
@SUBJECT:CD-ROM Wholesalers and Publishers. N
******************> ATTENTION CD-ROM WHOLESALERS <*****************
I recently opened a CD-ROM store in the Whittier, CA area and now
I'm looking for CD-ROM Wholesalers or Publishers. I plan to buy a
least $30,000 more in CD's to stock my business. I have already
bought about $10,000 but still need more titles. I'm looking for
all kinds of CD's (Shareware, Adult and Commercial). If you are a
Wholesalers or Publisher and would like to do business with me
please send me your CATALOG or LIST of titles to the following
address:
Mega-ROM Software
c/o Marcial Moreno
P. O. Box 627
Norwalk, CA 90651-0627
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* Origin: The Mega-ROM BBS of Whittier, CA (310) 944-2327 (1:103/304)
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From: NEIL BERGMAN Number: 3642
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/22/93 10:39a
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Bob: Can you get me alittle more information about "Up All Night"
like what's on it,etc.. If you can I'll try to push it in my ads.
Thanks,
Neil Bergman
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* Origin: The Inglewood RoofTop BBS (1:102/535)
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From: BRYAN MITCHELL Number: 3643
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/20/93 9:41a
Subj: Re: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Reply to msg originally in CDROM
-=> Quoting NEIL BERGMAN to ALL <=-
NB> SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE E-mail
NB> ADDRESS OR POSTAL ADDRESS!!!!
Neil,
I'll take a copy. My E-Mail address is 4:920/25 or my postal
address is:
Bryan Mitchell
PSC 01 Box 1568
APO, AA 34001
.....Bryan
... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
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* Origin: From down deep in The Emerald Mines BBS (4:920/25.0)
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From: BRYAN MITCHELL Number: 3644
To: JEFF HUBERT Date: 09/20/93 9:52a
Subj: Re: Os/2 and mitsumi Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
* Reply to msg originally in CDROM
-=> Quoting Jeff Hubert to All <=-
JH> Can somebody please tell me how to get any of the os/2 cd-rom drivers
JH> for the mitsumi to work.
Jeff, I got mine from a guy in Florida called Joe Cossette. His phone
number is 305-968-4605. It's a commercial product and will cost you about
$25.00, but well worth it. I tried all the shareware versions without
success, but this one works great.
JH> Os/2 says it loaded the driver but doesn't recognize the drive.
JH> instructions for any of the drivers on here would be fine because I
JH> have them all and I can't get them to work.
Had the same problem. Got kinda upset as IBM didn't tell me which
CD-Rom's were supported when I ordered. Unfortunately I ordered mine
on CD and had to wait an extra two weeks for the driver before I could
even set up OS/2. Hope this helps.
.....Bryan
... Tag line thievery ... On the next Geraldo!
--- FMail 0.94+ & RA Pro 2.0
* Origin: From down deep in The Emerald Mines BBS (4:920/25.0)
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From: GREG ARMENIA Number: 3645
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 11:48p
Subj: The Pier Shareware CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
**************************************
**** The Pier Shareware #3 CD-ROM ****
**************************************
We are now taking pre-orders for The Pier Shareware #3
ONLY $39.00 With FREE Shipping During Pre-orders Season!
The Pier Exchange (tm) is proud to present the HOTTEST and most
CURRENT CD-ROMs ever released. The Pier Shareware CD-ROMs are a series
of sequential updated disks containing the latest Shareware programs.
All files on the discs are TRULY the most CURRENT files available on
the market at the time of their release. Unlike other Shareware CD-ROMs
that claim to have current files, The Pier Exchange has assured this
with "Smart Date Checking." (S.D.C.) Such dated files as FILE_ID.DIZ,
READ.ME, etc., within the archives are disregarded giving you TRULY the
latest files.
The Pier Exchange CD-ROM Publishing has set the standards for
Shareware CD-ROMs in regrades to the quality of files one comes to
expect on CD-ROMs. Now we would like to set the standard on CD-ROM
Access Software!
Introducing for the first time on The Pier Shareware #3, ThePier
v2.0 High Performance CD-ROM Access Program. This is not a GUI
interface put over v1.0, but rather a complete rewrite, and as a
result it is 300% FASTER then version 1.0. The GUI interface will
support EGA or VGA graphic modes. There is full mouse support with
pull-down menus. The Search menu will allow you to search ThePier
database for matching file names, keywords, or archive content file
names. The viewers are one of the nicest features of ThePier. They
allow you to associate programs with data files on the basis of the
data file extension. ThePier has a built-in viewer that is used as the
default viewer unless you specify something different. You will have
the ability to add additional comments associated with any file within
the database. The ability to copy or extract files to any path, on the
fly!
Features Of ThePier v.2.0:
* GUI Graphical Interface - EGA VGA * Keywords Search
* Full Mouse Support * File Name Search
* Pull-down Menus * File Name Within Archive Search
* File Comment Field Entries * Copy/Extract Files
* Searches 300% Faster Then V.1.0 * Built-in Default Text File Viewer
* Multiple File Viewer Configuration * Can Run In Text Mode
* Will Not Modify AUTOEXEC.BAT * Blows Competitors Out of The
Water
**************************
The Pier Shareware #3 Features: * Subjects *
* ---------------------- *
* Windows Applications *
* 640+ Megs of Shareware files * Windows Games *
* <ASP> directory * Programing Languages *
* 100% files dated 1993 S.D.C. * Programing Tools *
(Smart Date Checking in place) * SVGA GIF Pictures *
* ThePier v2.0 retrieval software contained * Educational Programs *
on the CD-ROM (High Performance CD-ROM * Games / Entertainment *
Access) * Sound Blaster /MIDI *
* All files have been scanned for * DTP / Clipart *
viruses with the latest McAfee SCAN * Bible *
* Full GAP, PCBoard, Spitfire, Wildcat! * Medical / Health *
Remote Access FILES.BBS Support * Word Processing *
* Less then 1% duplication between * Laser/Printer Utils *
The Pier Shareware 1 & 2 * BBS Programs / Doors *
* Most current files on the market * Communications *
* 30 day money back guarantee * Legal *
* OS/2 Programs/Utils *
* *
Distributors/Dealers are welcomed. * And Much Much More! *
**************************
We are now taking pre-orders for The Pier Shareware #3, and of
course, with all pre-orders shipping and handling is FREE! Order by
voice, FAX, or BBS online ORDER door. The cost of the CD-ROM is only
$39.00. We accept all major credit cards, check, and money order. Check
and money order must be US funds and drawn on US banks. Make check
payable to: The Pier Exchange, 128 Carmel Rd., Buffalo NY 14214
T h e #1 S h a r e w a r e C D - R O M
And We Back Our CD-ROMs With a 30 Day Money Back Guarantee!!!!
Pre-order yours today and we will pay the shipping!
ORDERS ONLY 1 - 8 0 0 - 4 3 8 - 9 7 3 4
International Orders, FAX, or Information 716-875-4931, BBS 716-875-3130
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From: STEVE GREENO Number: 3646
To: ALL Date: 09/23/93 4:33a
Subj: CD-ROM CATALOG Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
FREE CD-ROM CATALOG
OVER 200 TITLES
$10.00 TO $50.00
SEND TO:
STEVE GREENO
1275 E. PRINCE
TUCSON AZ. 85719
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* Origin: Comm-Post BBS Tucson, AZ (602)-571-9063 (1:300/53)
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From: ERIC PERO Number: 3647
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 12:30p
Subj: CD-ROM Catalogue (FREE!) Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Adrian,
Please send me a free catalogue! Thanks a bunch!
Eric Pero
12 Bassett Street
Ansonia, CT. 06401-2108
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* Origin: Mount Olympus (203)736-8678 - Multi-media CD-ROM BBS! (1:141/1260)
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From: GARY MCGEE Number: 3648
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 5:28p
Subj: UltraStor 14F Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello SCSI/CD ROM users
I am looking for the device drives to use a Toshiba 3401B CD-ROM drive with a
UltraStor 14F SCSI host adapter.
BTW:
I am looking for the address of the UltraStor Corporation. Perhaps there
phone number, BBS phone number, FAX Number.......
Thanks, Gary
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 3649
To: SCOTT GOLBY Date: 09/22/93 8:31p
Subj: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-=> Quoting Scott Golby to Lee Noga <=-
SG> With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort
SG> to remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine? I saw
SG> well over 50 in the Busty Babes I have here. I saw next to none from
SG> Penthouse, but plenty from Playboy.
Which BB do you have?
Steve
... Not tonight, dear. I have a modem.
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* Origin: CANDI LAND BBS, MONROE, MI (313)243-6689 (1:2380/120.0)
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 3650
To: SCOTT GOLBY Date: 09/22/93 6:43p
Subj: Re: Busty Babes Vol II-N Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message to Lee Noga <09-19-93 15:27> Scott Golby wrote:
SG>> With this New Busty Babes disk have you made a better effort
SG>> remove the pictures that have come from Playboy magazine?
The BB Vol II disc due out on/around 1 October is all licensed never seen
before images--We have model releases on all the content--The previous line of
products are out of production for good, never to be manufactured again.
Hope this answers your question.
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: ELDON WAKEFIELD Number: 3651
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 6:57a
Subj: PNX-CD Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I have purchased the Phoenux CD #2 & #3 and they bothe had a dir called list
on them. that had the files I needed. But the Pnx #4 did not have any The
only one it had was one that was [File Name] [Description] What I need is one
[File Name] [Size] [Date] [Description] Does any one have that by chance,
Don't know why they did not include that as before will be happy to freq just
say when and where Thanks Eldon
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From: GARY STIMPSON Number: 3652
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/22/93 1:27a
Subj: Re: Amiga CD32 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
In a message of 18 Sep 93 John Rackley wrote to me:
JR> Gary, the spec list on the CD32 you posted did indeed mention that the
JR> CD32 comes with a floppy connector. I would like to have this verified
JR> by some official source.
See below.
JR> You also mentioned an expansion connector. Have you heard any word on
JR> whether this will have a SCSI port? If it does, we can expect to see
JR> Commodore generate a lot of sales to people wanting high performance
JR> CD-ROM drives. I'd love to buy both a CD-ROM drive and an Amiga for
JR> the price of just the drive! ;)
No idea. You're right though, they'd make a lot of money and that would be
a really smart move. Bet it's IDE! :-) Anyway, best to contact someone
from Commodore or a person who actually owns a CD32. I can relay your
message to the Amiga CDROM echo, maybe your questions will be answered
there. I'll get back to you if I receive a reply.
Gary
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From: MICHAEL BROWN Number: 3653
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/22/93 11:05a
Subj: CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello! How do you think that they or whoever
conpiled or assembled the data?
Scanning phone books, data bases from the
Bell Systems. I wonder who has a data base
available for sell such as AT&T. It seems to
me, how many phones, 250 million people/3 plus
business lines= egual 3.3^10 data. Is this equal
to 7disk times 650MB of data?
Thanks Mike
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From: ANDREW PAGE Number: 3654
To: DON SHORTRIDGE Date: 09/22/93 7:23a
Subj: BBS LISTING Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DS> I will be more than happy to advertise your BBS on Secure
DS> Bacckups BBS. I will
DS> even advertise it on a couple of BBS's that I regulary get
DS> on in the San Diego,
DS> CA area.
Excuse me, but when you address to "sysop" in this area, you're writing to
EVERY sysop in the USA that carries this echo.
AJP
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3655
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/21/93 11:39p
Subj: Re: amiga cd-roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
You mentioned you have an Amiga 600HD and an Amiga 1200. What the heck is an
Amiga 600HD, and how does it differ from an Amiga 600?
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 3656
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/22/93 1:49p
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>>Point #1 - If you take reasonable care of your equipment you are
BF>UNLIKELY to >damage a CD disk.
BF>I'm a good example - 10+ years using CDs, and I've NEVER damaged one
BF>(OK, one exception that I took a hammer to!).
Hi Brice,
I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who can separate fact from
fiction. Having been heavy into computers for over ten years I can't
resist getting on my soap box when someone presents personal preference
as fact to a novice user asking for help. Originally I was answering
several questions about the Panasonic 562-B one of which was should it
be considered because it uses a motorized tray instead of a caddy. I
responded because I have one of these beauties connected to my SB 16ASP
and was in a position to answer the questions from first hand knowledge.
I tried to give him both sides of the caddy issue so the user could
decide what he needed for himself when someone else decided to say he
would not buy anything that doesn't use a caddy. Needless to say, out
came the soap box. He replied to that message with more opinion and no
facts so you'll see one more long winded message on the merits of
caddies. Unless provoked I intend to put the soap box away after that
one. Anyway, keep the faith and thanks for helping to dispel the
misconceptions.
Bob
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From: ROBERT POWELL Number: 3657
To: LESLIE RHORER Date: 09/22/93 1:49p
Subj: RE: OS/2 CD-ROM SUPPORT Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
LR> RF> > True, however, if one stays with SCSI, one not only
LR> RF> >gains the performance benefits of SCSI, one also has few
LR> RF> >problems under OS/2.
LR> RF> If one has it in the first place, then they can stay with it,
LR> RF> the obvious best choice. But moving to it in the first place is
LR> RF> not cheap, which, like the RAM prices, is probably one of the
LR> RF> reasons many people are still staying away from OS/2. Hopefully
LR> RF> in the future prices will continually go down here, as well.
LR> True. When I say "stay", I mean of course, "stay away from
LR>non-SCSI devices". It is *VERY* expensive to dump what one already
LR>has and upgrade to SCSI. Buying SCSI initially is not as large a
LR>hit, especially when one does not have to buy an additional hard
LR>drive controller.
LR> RF> It is a given, though - you want to use a CD-ROM drive under
LR> RF> OS/2, go SCSI if at all possible.
LR> It has many benefits, even under DOS, and if one upgrades to
LR>OS/2, the path is all that much smoother. In addition, there are
LR>many devices that really only come in SCSI, like full page scanners.
LR>One of the nicest things is that potential conflicts between tape
LR>backups, CD-ROM drives, hard drives, scanners, and other devices are
LR>essentially eliminated.
Perhaps I am missing something here. Data transfer under any system is
limited to the maximum amount of data a drive platter can pass under a
head per given amount of time. In other words even though SCSI
electronics may be capable of transfering 200 gigabytes per second (an
unreal figure), a drive that spins at 4400 RPM (a respectable speed) and
has 63 each 512 byte sectors per track (a respectable density for a 520
Meg drive) is capable of placing aprroximately 2.25 megabytes per second
under the read head (4400/60*63*.5/1024). The pysicial characteristics
of drive is the actual limiting factor. Lets say current SCSI drive
electronics (the hard drive) can provide this amount to the controller.
Then this is the maximum speed the controller can supply CPU provided
there is no controller overhead (It never rains when I go boating
either). Current IDE electronics (the hard drive) can supply 1.5 to 1.7
megabytes per second to the controller. Current VLB IDE controllers are
capable of accepting data at up 19 megabytes per second (they also
provide for less overhead as they are much simpler devices).
Manufacuturers such as Micripolis have stated that thier next generation
of IDE hard drives will supply the controller as fast as thier SCSI hard
drives. Seems like the next generation of IDE hard drives will provide
the same performance depending soley on the physical characteristics of
hard drive. It would seem this performance is hardware based and is
independent of operating system, be it windows/dos, OSII, Unix or
windows NT.
I have seen grown intellectual men brought down to the level of chimps
trying to make an original SCSI device work with a SCSI2 device. And
let us not forget SCSI3 which is just around the corner. These are
hardware problems, not software.
I have seen comercial scanners based on proprietary IDE, Serial (really
slow) and parrallel interfaces.
But what really confuses me is what does all this have to do with CDROMs
other than some, not all are based on SCSI Interfaces.
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From: ROGER SMITH Number: 3658
To: ALL Date: 09/21/93 6:05p
Subj: CD Label Program Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
I've found a nice, free, program which I have found very useful. It is a
Windows program which prints inserts for CD and CDROM jewel boxes. I use it
mainly for Photo CDs. It is especially nice for Photo CDs since Kodak printed
the spine labels upside-down. I use the CD Label program to print a
replacement for the spine and back inserts.
This program is also nice for CDROM users since many CDROMs come in generic,
unlabelled jewel boxes. It prints two inserts, an insert for the front of the
jewel box and an insert for the back and spines. It allows you to choose from
all the fonts and font sizes supported by your printer.
The program is available from the RSBBS in the Windows file area or is file
requestable as CDLAB100.ZIP. The archive is only about 9K in size.
The Visual Basic dynamic library VBRUN100.DLL is required. If you don't have
it, download (or request) POKERS10.ZIP which is a silly little Windows game
which includes the VBRUN100.DLL file.
-- Roger
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From: CRAIG GAGNER Number: 3659
To: ERIC TREMBLAY Date: 09/22/93 5:55a
Subj: Re: Mitsumi problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
ET> > The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
ET> > work in
ET> > a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried 4
ET> > different
ET> > motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The same drive will
ET> > work in a 386 no problem.
ET>
ET> What is the symptom Craig? Ehat do you mean by "they just crap
ET>out"? Does the driver report a "CD-ROM not Detected" message? Or is
ET>it something else. Please describe.
ET>
ET> TTYL
ET>
ET> Eric
ET>
Well we tried 11 different drives all manufactured June 93 and a
multitude of motherboards and they all showed not ready reading drive
faliure on int 24...
Everyone was exactly the same ...
Later Craig
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* Origin: The American Connection, Savannah GA (1:3626/1)
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From: BEN RINGWALD Number: 3660
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/22/93 9:29p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
Hello Bob!
Tuesday September 21 1993 10:25, Bob Hall wrote to Doug Carpenter:
DC>> are fortunate that he has banned sales all together, so I wouldn't
DC>> push your luck with Bob. He is a re nice gentlemen and his rules are
DC>> very tolerable and reasonable.
BH> Turning red. I'm flattered. Gosh. (kicking the dirt with my feet)
No, You're not turning RED... It's just that red okie clay under your
feet! I know... I started out there a good many years ago.
BTW, I would like to see less messages in this echo that are only useful to
the sender & receiver. Wonder how many folks know how to use NETMAIL? I know
this could have gone netmail direct, but some people need to start using
netmail.
Thanks for listening.
Ben
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* Origin: Welcome to Pecan Valley * FW Texas (1:124/4115.251)
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From: RICK ASHWORTH Number: 3661
To: TOM GUELKER Date: 09/22/93 4:15a
Subj: PANASONIC CR562B Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello TOM!
18 Sep 93, TOM GUELKER writes to BRICE FLECKENSTEIN:
TG> I've got two small children that use my computer. The piece of mind I
TG> get with a caddy is worth the extra minimal cost. Try replacing some of
TG> the older CD's no longer available.
Try replacing them for the $4.00 cost of the caddy!
Rick
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* Origin: DataNet HST/V32b Erlanger, KY (606) 727-DNET (1:108/90)
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3662
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/21/93 11:09p
Subj: NOT IN WINDOWS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> o
RE> /U\
Yo! Rowan! I found ya!
Now that we're not in the Windows conference...I cannot use non-SCSI
drives. I MUST have SCSI interface drives (it's a compulsion).
Drives will be accessed simultaneously, not sequentially.
I'm lookin' at a stack o' internal drives in a case with SCSI interface.
Ideas?
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From: CHRIS DONNEGAN Number: 3663
To: JIM CUMMINGS Date: 09/22/93 10:40p
Subj: GOVT CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
JC>The "U.S. Code, containing the general and
JC>permanent laws of the United States" is available for $30.00 on CD-Rom
JC>catalog SB 314, Superintendent of Documents, Box 371954, Pittsburgh, P
JC>15250-7954.
How would YOU use this CD?
--- WinQwk 2.0b#995
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From: ARTHUR HUNT Number: 3664
To: WENCH Date: 09/22/93 11:13a
Subj: 0K download limit Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hi, Sorry to bother you again, but tried to download a drawing and got a
Sorry, this would exceed your 0K limit. That's a mighty low limit. Can you
fix? Thanks.
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From: LANGSTON GOLDFINCH Number: 3665
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 11:40p
Subj: ProPhone v 2.2 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Hello All!
Mid 1993 release- 7 disk set- every phone in country completely indexed- can
list all addresses with phone on any street in the country, find folks long
lost, all your relatives, every body in any zip, etc.
Will ship to you for $99-
new- you can resister this and get upgrades annually if you wish.
Langston
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* Origin: N.O.P.C. BBS * New Orleans,La (1:396/17)
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From: MARK WALKER Number: 3666
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 7:56p
Subj: Re: Southern Beauties Refer: NONE
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In a message of <20 Sep 93 14:16:02>, Boris Osadciw (1:157/46) writes:
>In our case, we DO CARE about our customers and we'll do whatever we can
>to make them happy.
I will say I have always been satisfied with the service I have gotten from
you Boris.
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3667
To: DAVID RICE Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: GIFs Refer: NONE
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DR>Does anyone know where I can get the "GIFs Galore" CD. I have been looking
>everwhere localy and no one has it. Please give me pricing on it too
>if you can. Thanks in advance.
GIF's Galore is $15.00 from Computer Works. Give us a call if you are
interested.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
(205) 793-4481 Voice
(205) 671-0092 BBS Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3668
To: GUY OMER Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Cd-rom For Spitfire Refer: NONE
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GO> I'm a SpitFire sysop and am -always- looking for new/best CD's for my
>system. Clearly CD's with SFFILES.BBS 'work' best for me. Please also
>note: price <drat> is also important.
Hi Guy. I run a Spitfire BBS also and have found the So Much Shareware
series to be the easiest to setup of all the CD-Roms I have seen. Are
you familiar with them? So Much Shareware 3 will even install Spitfire
and/or SF-Rom onto your hard drive and install itself into the SF-Rom
configuration. That's hard to beat! The file selection is very nice
and includes an entire directory dedicated to Spitfire utilities.
I'll send you a catalog in the mail. Let me know if you have any
questions.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
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(205) 671-0092 BBS
Online Credit Card & COD Orders
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From: JIM LAMBERT Number: 3669
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Good deal? Refer: NONE
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CB>Or I could get a Mitsumi 300ms drive (I dont know the KBS, probably 300)
>for $210 (internal)
CB>Which is a better deal? Which would you get? (I would use it mainly for
>games and education)
Personally, I would get the Mitsumi and fix the wire connector to work
with the SB Pro. You can get a better deal on the Mitsumi. The lowest
price I have seen advertised is $175, so I will match that if you are
interested.
Computer Works CD-Rom Sales! Jim...
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(205) 671-0092 BBS
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From: TOM ARRUDA Number: 3670
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Rebel Assault Refer: NONE
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Does any body know what the release date for Rebel Assault is ??
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From: NIEL EYDE Number: 3671
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: $99 CD ROM DRIVE Refer: NONE
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For any lurkers interested in getting into CDROM, check out your local
Radio Shack. I've just picked up one of there CDR-1000 for $99. The
drive won't break any speed records, but if your interested in shareware
CD's you may want to check it out. By the way, it is also MPC compliant,
although it will run a tad-bit slow. There are closed-out so you way have
to do some digging. In my case I had to prepay for one, and they got it
in within a couple of days.
For $99 it makes a great spare CD-ROM drive too!!
Niel
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3672
To: MIKE SHANNON Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: NO Private: No
Hi Mike!,
-> I'm very impressed with this CD. Loaded with sound/music files in sev
-> formats like WAV, VOC, ROL, SND, MOD, etc, and also includes lots of
-> utilities, music editors, demo programs, Adlib/Soundblaster applicati
-> synthesizers and the like. It is BBS-ready, so you should have no
-> problem using it on your BBS. In stock at $20 each if you're interes
That sounds good! I'll keep it in mind.
Do you have any catalogs?
If so,
1914 N.E. Crestview Pl.
Newport, OR.
97365
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From: HENRY PAUL Number: 3673
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
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Hi Neil!,
I'll take a catalog!!!!
P.O. Box 1948
Newport, OR.
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 3674
To: BOB HALL Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Re: SUPER SERIES Refer: NONE
Read: 10/31/93 7:38p Private: No
> IA>Ask for Super Series from your nearest dealer or call us;
> Ismail, you know there is a 10 line limit....
> Thanks.
> BOB
Ooops!..Sorry
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From: ISMAIL ARSLANGIRAY Number: 3675
To: ROBERTO REYES Date: 09/22/93 2:28p
Subj: Re: Super Series Refer: NONE
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> Hi! Ismail
> Please, as soon as possible send me the prices of the following CD'S
> Super Games for Windows Vol. II
> Super_CD Shareware Library III (coming soon)
> Super Programmer (will be ready 19 Sept. 93)
Hi Roberto,
This week most of our customers will receive a catalog from us. Our 16 page
catalog even is not enough to list everything we got :-) TTYL
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From: STEVE GERWECK Number: 3676
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:29p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
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-=> Quoting Adrian Salas to All <=-
AS> ***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
AS> your mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Thanks...
... Steve Gerweck, 530 Concetta Drive, Monroe, MI 48161-3542
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From: RAY COOK Number: 3677
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: The 7th Guest CD game 4-SAiL Refer: NONE
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The 7th Guest CD Game
Complete with all manuals, Video tape
`The making of The 7th Guest', and
CD's still sealed in orininal plastic.
$ 45.00 (prepay and I'll pay shipping)
Contact Ray Cook (303) 429-1854 (denver, colorado)
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From: STEPHEN ZAPPARDO Number: 3678
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: New mitsumi 2x speed Refer: NONE
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Does anyone have the price for the new Mitsumi double speed CD player? It
has a transfer rate of 300k and access of 280. This is the new CD player that
Gateway 2000 is selling with their systems.
TIA, Stephen
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From: LEE NOGA Number: 3679
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: Re: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
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In a message to David Wills <09-18-93 12:28> Tyrone Thomason wrote:
TT>> adult material was banned to protect Sysops ....
TT>> up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist
BINGO ! YOU speak the truth, and let me add you are most correct--This echo is
monitored by outside agencies, and I would imagine what is said here can and
will be used against whomever--
-=*>Lee<*=-
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From: KEVIN HOFFMAN Number: 3680
To: BRIAN RYCHLICKI Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: Panasonic cd562-b / sbpro Refer: NONE
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Hi Brian...
In a note to All <09/14/93> Brian Rychlicki wrote:
BR> I just spent about three hours with a dealer trying to install a CD562B o
BR> my system which is a 386DX40, coProcessor, 8 Meg of Ram, and a Sound Blas
BR> Pro. No luck reading disks.
My first guess would be an I/O address conflict. IRQ conflicts can also
cause your problem but they're a lot easier to spot. When I do adapter
card installations the first thing I do is use a diagnostic package to
map the system's IRQs, DMAs, upper RAM and I/O addresses. Most of the
problems I've found result from I/O conflicts and they're usually the
hardest to find. I also pull the cards to match jumper settings with
the diagnostics tests.
Something else to be aware of is that most diagnostic software won't
spot all IRQs, DMAs, and I/O addresses already in use because they
aren't initialized until the item calling them is used so you may get a
report stating that some item is available when in fact it's assigned
but dormant at the time of the test... any diag software worth it's salt
will show what ROMs have been loaded into upper RAM.
Two devices can share the same IRQ under the right conditions... usually
only one device can be in use at a time.
Few diagnostic packages list the proper I/O address matchup to the
corresponding device/software.
Each card in the computer should be pulled and inspected for it's
various settings... record each item's settings.
Another blind side can come when two devices are assigned to the same
IRQ... diagnostic software usually reports the first item to grab the
IRQ and doesn't see the second device on the same IRQ.
Once all cards are mapped be sure to keep a hard copy of that system for
future additions and trouble shooting. You should also add to your
hard copy any available IRQs, DMAs, I/O addresses, and open high RAM
areas to make future upgrades easier.
Hope this helps...
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3681
To: CHRISTIAN BUHL Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: Re: Good deal? Refer: NONE
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Hello there,
Here's my opinion. Go ahead and get the Mitsumi and use your SB Pro.
My reasons are that you'll get a faster drive and you will already have a
good sound card. You never know what to expect from a "SB/Adlib/etc"
compadible card. Also you can get better programs than what they are
offering, for very good prices.
But of course the most important thing I see is that Mits is twice as fast as
that other drive!
Hope I helped and Read Ya Around,
CAT
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From: CATALINO ALVAREZ Number: 3682
To: JOHN BENJAMIN Date: 09/22/93 2:30p
Subj: Re: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Cat here,
Love to get one of your catalogs!
C. Alvarez Jr
348 Chutney Dr
Orlando, FL 32825-3612
Thanx and Read Ya Later,
CAT
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From: PETER LASNE Number: 3683
To: JOHN RACKLEY Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: Re: AMIGA CD ROM.. Refer: NONE
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I'm not sure what the release date is here in America, I'm pretty sure
it has been released in Europe already, so it shouldn't be too far off.
There are many ways to network the Amiga with other computers, the most
used is Novell, I don't think that Novell can be used across a SCSI port
BUT I am almost positive that there is a Novell network card for the
PCMCIA card slot (if it's not already out, it will be VERY soon).
Peter Lasne
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From: LEE WINSOR Number: 3684
To: CHRIS WOOD Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: Shareware Explorer Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Chris,
-> in Qedit. Also the only way to find out the file area names was to
-> use the ACCESS.EXE file browsing util that came with it. It made it a
-> tad more annoying to set up the filearea.ctl entries.
Actually, if you go into the \Sysops\pcboard subdirectory, the file
named 'DIR00ASC' has a list of all the file area names. I'm afraid I
neglected to include a copy of this file in the directories for other
BBS types.
For your benefit as well as other Sysops who purchase the Shareware
Explorer, there is another glitch that we were just informed of.
On DOS Explorer Volumes #1 & #3, (but not on the other volumes),
the FILES.BBS for directory \A036 is duplicated in directory \A037.
This error may be corrected in one of the following ways:
1) The file 'DIR37' in the \sysops\pcboard subdirectory may be
converted to files.bbs format via one of the included conversion
peograms for your bbs type.
2) You may call our support BBS at (203) 738-0342 and download the file
'XPLR_FIX.ZIP' (size=9k) which contains corrected files.bbs entries.
Sorry for any inconvenience this may have caused, but it seems no matter
how hard you try, 'Murphy' always gets the last laugh.... <g>.
\-Lee-/
New Frontiers CD-ROMS
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From: ADAM GOODE Number: 3685
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: Re: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
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TC> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
TC> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if
TC> anyone else has a clue?
1>> Can't pass the boiling water.
2>> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 that
TC> is)
TC> Leave me a note - if ya can help -
TC> Candid Kid
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TC> 16.8k (1:282/85)
1) Get an Iceberg lettuce from the Isle O' Wonder and plop in the the
water. That should cool it off! (But hurry, or else the lettuce will
melt!)
ADAM GOODE
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From: ADAM GOODE Number: 3686
To: ADAM EDWARDS Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: Re: 16-Bit Sound Cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AE> Hi,
DP>> 16-bit card. Would a 16-bit sound card make games written for an
DP>> 8-bit card sound better?
AE> Nope.
AE>
DP>> Does anyone have any opinions on which 16-bit sound card will
DP>> become the standard? The Pro Audio Spectrum 16 was the first 16-
DP>> bit sound card but the Sound Blaster 16 has the advantage of the
DP>> 8-bit SB being the previous standard.
AE> 16bit cards are only good for recording and playing back 16bit
AE> digital voices. There aren't currently any games (except maybe
AE> 7th guest) that have 16bit sound (voices) on them. They take up
AE> too much space.
DP>> Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between the Sound
DP>> Blaster 16 and the ASP version? What is the difference between
DP>> the Pro Audio Spectrum and Studio?
AE> The ASP is a processor that enable compression and manipulation
AE> of Sound. Good for voice recognition and storage of large sound
AE> bytes but not much else.
AE>
DP>> He found a review of the Pro Audio Spectrum 16 that said that to
DP>> make it Sound Blaster compatible you have to run a driver
DP>> program. Does anyone know how big this driver is and if it
DP>> can be loaded high? Thank you in advance for all replies.
AE>
AE> don't know much about the new PAS16 series sorry.
AE> See ya Adam
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For the PAS16, you don't need the driver program. Except maybe
MVSOUND.SYS. This comes with the card and doesn't take much memory. The
PAS16 directly emulates the Sound Blaster. It's like haveing two cards
in one! The old PAS (8-bit) required software emulation of the Sound
Blaster. This type wasn't too good.
ADAM GOODE
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From: BOB DUNN Number: 3687
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS> If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please lea
AS> mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Bob Dunn
51 Hubbell Ave
Ansonia, CT 06401-1329
Thanks
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From: DONALD NELSON Number: 3688
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:35p
Subj: HELP!!!! Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
does anyone know how to connect a mitsumi cd-rom drive model CRMC to a sound
blaster pro. i need to hook up the cd interface not the audio.
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3689
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 2:36p
Subj: CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Boris:
I've seen many posts on the board from you. Can you answer a couple of
technical questions:
1. Is there a quad-speed system coming out in the next few months?
2. Does the Pioneer 604X plan to upgrade?
3. Is the Pioneer kodak CD compatible?
4. Will the Pioneer work with a PAS-16?
5. Are there any other multi-drive systems on the market?
6. Can you send a catalog?
1221 Clover Ridge Court
Rapid City, SD 57701-2117
More than a couple of questions, but thanks in advance for the help.
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3690
To: SIMON MACKAY Date: 09/22/93 2:36p
Subj: Government Laws on CD Refer: NONE
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Simon was overheard saying:
SM>>Do you know of any legislatures who are planning on starting schemes
where
SM>>they put any Acts (laws that have been passed and are in force), Codes
and
SM>>Regulations on CD-ROM discs, making these laws available for public
SM>>browsing at their public libraries, or for sale / hire to interested
SM>>citizens e.g. lawyers and students.
Just read about a new service that puts court cases on CD-ROM. It allows
for easy searches of related cases. The example was given of a lawyer who
spent half a day finding a precedent. Using the CD-ROM she found it and
two others (one better than the one she found) in 10-15 minutes. I guess
it is only a matter of time.
I also read that the Social Security Admin put their code on CD-ROM and it
almost brought the organization down because it pointed out the
contradictions in the rules. I'd like to see it on the tax laws!
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From: BARRY SHIPLEY Number: 3691
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:36p
Subj: CATALOGS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
On 09-16-93 09:08 Adrian Salas was heard to say:
AS>>***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS>>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave
your
AS>>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Please send me a copy:
1221 Clover Ridge Court
Rapid City, SD 57701-2117
Thanks.
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From: JOHN RACKLEY Number: 3692
To: GARY STIMPSON Date: 09/22/93 2:38p
Subj: Re: CD32 Info 2/2 Refer: NONE
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Thanks for the info, Gary. Looks like the rumor of a floppy-ready
expansion port was greatly exaggerated. :-/
I think it's too bad. I'm not sure when the proper connectors are going
to be available to turn the CD32 into a full fledged computer. I guess I
won't buy one after all. At least, not right away.
Please keep us updated if you get any further information.
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From: CRAIG GAGNER Number: 3693
To: STEPHEN GUPTON Date: 09/22/93 2:40p
Subj: Re: Mitsumi problems Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
SG>In a msg on <Sep1914:10, Craig Gagner of 1:3626/1 writes:
SG>
SG> CG> I am a Tech at a local Computer Store, and we have run into a
SG> CG> problem with the Mitsumi Drives.
SG>
SG> CG> The Mitsumi Drives with a manufacture date of June 93 will not
SG> CG> work in a 486 system !! They just Crap out !! We have tried
SG> CG> 4 different motherboards ranging from ISA to Local Bus. The
SG> CG> same drive will work in a 386 no problem.
SG>
SG> CG> Does anyone know what might have happened ?? I suspect they
SG> CG> changed there firm wear with an upgrade which has caused this
SG> CG> problem..
SG> I run 2 of these on a 486 with no problems, which ver of
SG>MSDEX.EXE are you running?
SG>
SG> -=Stephen=-
SG>
I also run a Mitsumi on my 486 Local Bus 66, but its not a JUNE 93
manufacture date drive. I use MSCDEX that came with DOS 6 and all is
well, its the new drives there sending us !
We have decided to go with the Panasonic 562 drive and stop using the
Mitsumi drives, there loss as we probably sold half a dozen a week...
Later Craig
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 3694
To: MICHELLEA SORENSEN Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
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>>MS:> ProPhone 1993 7-disc set 50 37
>>MS:> American Business Phonebook 25 19
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How do I order these two? You take plastic
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From: CHRIS WISE Number: 3695
To: ALL Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Makers of CDS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
This is going to the makers of CD's (which I am sure there are a few out
there). I just returned from a computer show, and do you know the MAJOR
reason why alot of CD's did not sell at a booth I helped run? Because
the makers had no list of the programs contained on the CD. It does not
have to be a full list, just a run down of some of the major programs on
the CD. Let me ask you a question, would you publish a music CD without
the song listing on the back? If not, then why publish a CDROM with no
list! We lost a lot of sales because we did not know what was on them.
Just an informational letter.
Lee Christopher Wise
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3696
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Cd-List Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Please i'd like to receive the CD Catalog too.
Send to:
Maurice S. Villarreal
InGraph Sistemas
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx.
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3697
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
Yes, i'd like to receive.
Send to:
Maurice S. Vilarreal
InGraph Sistemas
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
Thanx.
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3698
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TC>1> Can't pass the boiling water.
You need to drop to the water, the frozen Lettuce.
SaludOS/2
Hal 9000
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From: MAURICE VILLARREAL Number: 3699
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
> TOO MANY MORE TO LIST!!!
> FOR A COMPLETE CATALOG, LEAVE
> E-mail ADDRESS OR POSTAL
> ADDRESS!!!!
Please send me the catalog
Maurice S. Villarreal
InGraph Systems
21 East Coma Suite 164
Hidalgo, TX 78557
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3700
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Catalogs Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS >***************** SAN DIEGO ROM CONNECTION ****************
AS >If you would like to receive our FREE CD-ROM Catalog, please leave your
>mailing address and we will get it out to you ASAP!
AS >Thank you
Ok I like to receive your CATALOG take note of my address.
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, Tx. 78041
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From: ROBERTO REYES Number: 3701
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Discount Cd-Roms Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
NB > SHORELINE CD-ROM'S DISCOUT PRICES
NB > These are just a few examples of our low prices...We have over 300
> titles in stock.
Please send me your complete catalog to
Roberto A. Reyes
14422 Industry Ave. Suite 7-54
Laredo, TX. 78041
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3702
To: HENRY PAUL Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: CD-ROM GAMES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hi Ashwin!,
-> -> I know what you mean Henry, I got the InterAction magazine and the
-> -> looks real good and I hope to buy it too, but actually right now m
-> -> are on Police Quest 4, I have never played any of the Police Quest
-> -> sereis so this is my first, hey by the way have you played SPace Q
-> -> 4, the CD-ROM or the regular version, cuz if you have maybe you ca
-> -> me, please write back, C-ya and TTYL.
-> Yeah, I've been getting Interaction since it was the Sierra News
-> Magazine..
-> I have PQ3 and it is absolutely fablulous! My brother is nuts about P
-> too. Yes, I have the entier SP series! It's my favorite! I have it on
-> disk, but still got to the end anyhow.
-> What are you having trouble with? Also, how old are you? I'm 17.
-> TTYL,
-> Henry
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Okay Henry, in Space Quest 4, I got to Space Quest X where I get cought
by some women, wow, anyway they want to torture me but a slug comes and
I save them and they say to go to shopping and I do it, and they leave
me and I cannot find them, anyway I got like 96 buckaziods, a new set of
clothes, a SQ4 hint book and Hint Revealer,a cigar butt and a ATM card,
now I tried to get out of the mall but did not succed and just got shot
so I tried to go into each of the shops and in the aracde a time travel
police came in and I went out, well that's where I am, now what do I do
to get out of here, and I am 16. well hope you can help me, C-ya and
TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3703
To: RICK SHOAF Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Mitsumi CD-ROM Audio Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> JW>I have just bought a Mitsumi CD-Rom drive Model LU005U, this is th
-> JW>latest High Speed Drive. I'm happy with it but am having trouble w
-> JW>the audio. I can get audio from the front mounted headphone jacks
-> JW>connecting the drive to my sound card (a plain Sound Blaster) wit
-> JW>cable that came with the sound card and then running the out put o
-> JW>sound card to my stero amp, I don't get sound. Anybody out there
-> JW>this set-up that might have had this problem and solved it. AKA -
-> JW>it be a bad drive, interface card, Ecte, or am I just hooking it u
-> JW>wrong. Thanks in advance for any help! :)
->
-> Your drive is good and so is the SB Pro. If you have the manual to th
-> SB Pro, look in the back at the schematic drawings, it will give you
-> pin assignments for the audio input. now look at the manual for the
-> Mitsumi. It's pins are a different configuration than the SB Pro. You
-> will need to reverse the wires to something like this...
->
-> Original What it should be
->
-> SB Pro Audio input SB Pro Audio input
-> Pin 1 2 3 4 Pin 1 2 3 4
->
-> 1 2 3 4 2 1 4 3
-> Mitsumi Audio out Mitsumi Audio out
->
-> Look at the manuals to make sure, because I've only done this once, a
-> it was on my brother's computer, not mine, so I'm not sure of the exa
-> connections.
->
->
-> Rick
-> ___
-> X OLX 2.1 X Windows NT.... The Binford 5000 OS!
->
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Well Rick, I also have the same setup that is I have a plaing SB 2.0 and
I use that with my Mitsumi, I can use the Sb perfectly with plain games
which produce mono sound but games which have stereo sound does not
work, and also I cannot send the output from an audio cd from by drive
to the SB since the SB cannot handle that kind of output so if you are
talking about Audio CD then forget it and buy a stereo card, but if you
are talking about games I don't see what your problem is. C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: ASHWIN BIHARI Number: 3704
To: TIM CANFIELD Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: Kings Quest 6 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
-> Hey anyone have KQ6 on CD-Rom?
->
-> I have it and am playing it, but I am stuck and am wondering if anyon
-> else has a clue?
->
-> 1> Can't pass the boiling water.
well one thing at a time, to get past this part go to the isle of wonder
and near the tomatoes look and you will see iceberg lettuce, use that on
this.
->
-> 2> Can't seem to get into the castle... (tried 3 times, restarted 3 t
-> is)
now you cannot get into the castle through the main door, after you have
finished the paint spell, use that on the side of a wall and you will
make a door and use that to get in, but this is at the end of the game.
-> Leave me a note - if ya can help - -> Candid Kid ->
Well if you need anymore help just write to me, C-ya and TTYL.
Ashwin
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From: KEVIN DONALD Number: 3705
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 2:43p
Subj: 16-bit sound cards Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
Stay away from SB-16 and PAS-16 and Soundman -16. They suck. Get Gravis
Ultrasound. Sell your soundblaster...Gravis rulez...
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3706
To: LOU PETRALIA Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: BUSTY BABES VOL II-NE Refer: NONE
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LP> the news and current affairs. The moderaitor has chosen to eliminate
LP> discuessions of adult oriented material (which I believe is a bad choice)
LP> but so be it. What's bothering me now is all the WANNABE moderators who
LP> just love to get upset and flame whenever they see a X- or XXX in a message
LP> So to all you WANNABE'S out there here's your chance to fufill your destiny
LP> in life and make you dreams come true.
The entire issue over adult titles, discussions is driving me nuts.
Like yourself, the wannabe's can get on my nerves. As a matter of fact
I have a big poster in my office that says, "I only have one nerve left,
don't get on it!" :-)
ALL I am requesting now, is that if anyone should talk about the adult
titles, they do it with some taste and discretion.
I'd give anything if I'd never mentioned it in the first place.
Bob Hall
not so moderately moderating moderator any more.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3707
To: ROWAN EVANS Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: CD-ROM QUESTIONS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RE> Sunny Sydney.......
Wish I was there this morning. Eating a "bikki" with a tad of Vegamite,
a Cherry Ripe, a hunk of Violet Crumble, a taste of Billy Tea, and
perhaps toward the end of the day, a cold 4F. If my hands got dirty, I
could use that wonderful Sard soap to wash my hands. AHHHHHhhhhhh for
the land of enchantment.....
BOB
:-)
Guilty of dreaming for only a moment, and not moderating!
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3708
To: BORIS OSADCIW Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: KINGS QUEST 7 Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BO>>> YO boris....
BO>>> The date is 8/9/93 and the cd-rom 2 this day has not come yet.
BO>>> R u having problems??!! Hey if u need 2 ask or there is sum
BO>Your order was faxed to us on 93/09/02 at 14:55 hrs. Your order was
BO>proccessed the next day and shippied via AIR MAIL at 10:48 hrs.
Boris, do like the rest of us, and use the phone for your order
problems. Tell your customers to do so also.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3709
To: TODD OSTRER Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: CD'S FOR SALE Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TO>Hello: Our new Catalog. WE Ship World Wide Express Mail..
10 line limit on any ad in this echo. Please adhere to the rules.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3710
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: DR. CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>Wont happen again.
Thanks for your cooperation
BOB
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3711
To: ADRIAN SALAS Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: RULES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
AS>Mr. Hall,
AS>By this you mean, that in advertisements they must, be divided, say the
AS>"Shareware and Games, and non-adult" is ok here and ADULT titles are to
AS>be posted in the CDROMsale Echo? Or are you referring to just the
AS>"discussing" of Adult titles?
After having messages bombard me, right now I don't care. However, I
think that discussing the contents of ADULT titles in an international
echo is not a wise thing to do, it is simply respect to those that do
not want to read it, or have it exposed to minors.
For the sake of some clarity, discuss it in CDROMsale. Tim basically
has no rules, and he says it is ok......
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3712
To: DAVID WILLS Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
DW> Gee, is this 100% flame bait or what?
Nope. I can send you all the copies of pure flame bait, if you want. I
almost feel like I was sent to hell there for a day or two.
Bob Hall
Moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3713
To: TYRONE THOMASON Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
TT>Pardon me for butting in but, it seems that the very thing that you are
TT>accusing others of doing, you are doing yourself. In defense of the
TT>moderator, adult material was banned to protect Sysops from setting them
TT>up for prosecution for violating State laws. Not the act of activist or
TT>do-gooders as you claim.
TT>Is the moderator protecting someone from themselves? Yes, but posting
TT>in another echo is a whole heck of a lot easier on your conscience than
TT>having someones computer confiscated Federal and/or State charges levied
TT>against someone when you know that you were indirectly responsible. A
TT>bit of an inconvience, yes but, responsibilty is more admirable. In
TT>other words, would say something to a person you saw about to step off a
TT>curb into an on-coming car or stand there and shake you head after the
TT>accident?
TT>The information I gave you for the banning of adult discussions was
TT>gleaned from messages in the echo.
I am so impressed with your message, (especially the words "in defense
of the moderator") if you will call me, 1-800-550-3503, I will send you
a free CDROM!!!!!
Bob Hall
still trying to moderately moderate this echo... :-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3714
To: BRICE FLECKENSTEIN Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: X-RATED CD-ROM Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
BF>It appears to have a LOT (everything) to do with the fact that Bob is a
BF>"neighbor" of Tony Davis's....
Call me, 1-800-550-3503 and I'll send you one too!!!!!
Bob Hall
starting to smile a little while moderately moderating this echo.
:-)
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3715
To: PAM TEMPLE Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: 10 LINES Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
PT>Well at this end it came out as only 9 lines - so you continue to be on the
PT>side of the angels.
PT>Cheers,
Well it is about time I do something right! :-)
BOB
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3716
To: NEIL BERGMAN Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: DISCOUNT CD-ROMS Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
there is a 10 line limit on ads in this echo.
Bob Hall
moderator.
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From: BOB HALL Number: 3717
To: RICHARD ROBB Date: 09/22/93 2:44p
Subj: RULES OF THE ECHO Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A] Private: No
RR>Thanks for publishing the rules of the echo, Bob. You're doing a good
RR>job.
RR>However, now that the reasons for removing mention of XXX topics have
RR>been cited, I must say I'm disappointed in your reasoning. While it's
RR>true that children read the echo, that is a reason for banning *discussion*
RR>adult topics. But that is hardly a reason for banning
Point so noted and taken. Follow some of my reply's today, and see if
you still think my true reason was flimsy.
Anyway, as long as people are discussing with taste, I'm fairly open.
BOB
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